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“What a lifeless, limp, ego-centric homo,” and other bon mots from the A Voice for Men crowd

So Mr. Paul Elam was apparently so offended by this video from Jay Smooth defending Anita Sarkeesian and her Tropes Vs Women video project against its many misogynistic detractors that he sat down and wrote out a carefully reasoned rebuttal of all of Mr. Smooth’s points.

Nah, I’m kidding. He wrote a snide couple of paragraphs calling Smooth a “leftist scumbucket,” and a “chickenshit feminist quisling,” and invited his readers to jump in with their own dopey insults. And they did. Some highlights (that is, lowlights):

I showed Paul’s comment to an MRA friend, and he said, “dude, you have to stop talking to me. I don’t exist! I’m no more real than Paul Elam’s ‘gay friend.'”

Andybob added this to the debate:

Yes, that’s right, he’s saying Smooth is being a “fag” in order to score with women. Clearly we have a brilliant mind at work here.

Several comments later, Iron John, a man apparently oblivious to irony, weighed in with this gem:

On Reddit, after someone pointed out the homophobia in the comments, Elam responded with “comment mine much?”

I’m pretty sure you don’t get to complain about “comment mining” for homophobia when 1) you’re the guy behind the site and 2) you’re one of the ones shouting “fag.”

Notice that Zorro’s original comment got an equal number of upvotes and downvotes. Then Elam jumped in to give the homophobia his seal of approval. After that, it was nothing but upvotes for those using or approving of the homophobic slur.

Calling a dude a “fag” on the internet: Men’s Rights Activism at its finest!

 

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Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Pecunium — this is hilarious, I wasn’t counting his twisting what people say because I figured he’d find a way to claim that wasn’t an insult (I agree that it is) — but he’s commented on the Men’s Rights Redditors thread about terrible an insult creep is. >.<

And fuck "in another time" — if he said half of this shit to someone's face he might find his teeth displaced. (Imagine him saying, within earshot of her father, that some 14 year old is dressed like a slut and turning him on…yeah, the results wouldn't be pretty)

This is also why he comes here still I think, he can't spew this level of hatred off line or he'd find out the hard way just how few people agree with him.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Shiraz, thank you. I’ve been having a crap few days, but “shit lording” made me lol in my cube. Now I need to find a way to work that into a convo.

pecunium
pecunium
10 years ago

Argenti: He thinks it’s an insult for us to be offended that he thinks leaving a room, getting a pipe, and coming back to bash in a woman’s skull is perfectly justified.

He’s not in any position to say that having one’s words mis-used /= insult.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Pecunium — in the reality of things, I’m well aware, in the Owlyverse though… Not even he can deny that this line was a tirade of insults — “It really has nothing to do with naivete. Everyone of you here is belligerent, rude, obnoxious, sexist, racist, vengeful, spiteful, hateful, vain, arrogant, disloyal and spoiled. Not the most endearing of qualities representing such a diverse crew of women. However, the lip service is unparalleled.”

I really couldn’t have asked for a better example.

pecunium
pecunium
10 years ago

Argenti: In the Owlyverse that wasn’t more than just a dispassionate listing of our obvious traits.

Completely different from us listing his traits. It’s even worse when we quote him, “The greater the truth, the greater the libel.”

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

“The greater the truth, the greater the libel.” …but truth is a solid defense to libel…in the real world anyways.

pecunium
pecunium
10 years ago

It wasn’t the case in the colonies until Zenger,and it wasn’t the case in Great Britain until sometime in this century (and there are some interesting things about that, “libel by juxtaposition”, in which British papers said things they couldn’t say by putting one headline near another, or a photograph).

Britain is still a really easy place to get a libel judgment; and libel judgements are hellishly expensive. It’s why David Irving chose England to file his suit against Penguin.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
10 years ago

Yeah but NWO’s still wrong about quoting him being libel (hilariously so)…oh wait, or is that a juxtaposition of things he’s said and thus an insult? The Owlyverse is more confusing than the Whoniverse (“you named your daughter after your daughter” makes more sense than this [“time travel, it never goes according to plan”])

Shiraz
Shiraz
10 years ago

Hellkell, cheers! I was having a crap day as well.

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
10 years ago

Ah, libel, in which people try to sue researchers for publishing research that says they were wrong…

MollyRen (@MollyRen)
10 years ago

Dracula… “Really, if NWO reminds me of any LOTR character, it’s got to be Bill Ferny. You know, the mean-spirited asshole who was reporting to the Nazgul?” Again with the mean-spirited asshole routine. I’ve personally attacked no one.

Except, ya know, all the gay people ever. But they don’t count, right, NWOslave?

crella
crella
10 years ago

Thank God for the MRM…you wouldn’t have anything to write about otherwise….

pillowinhell
pillowinhell
10 years ago

No, but we would have fewer jackasses to laugh at. Which is a good thing, because then the rest of us could go happily on with out lives.

Kyrie
Kyrie
10 years ago

Manboobz might not exist without the MRM, but David could write on any other subject. Do you also thank war, because it give something to write about to a lot of writers?

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
10 years ago

Thank God for the MRM…you wouldn’t have anything to write about otherwise….

Wrong!

MorkaisChosen
MorkaisChosen
10 years ago

… HTML broke, so that comment looks incredibly douchey.

“Wrong!” is supposed to link to http://dimflash.blogspot.co.uk/

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