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Sady Doyle on “Fighting Sexual Assault, One Tweet at a Time”

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Sady Doyle of Tiger Beatdown fame has a great piece up at In These Times on the ways in which the Internet has helped to highlight virulent and violent misogyny — and inspire effective feminist pushback. It’s actually kind of … inspiring? (That’s a word I don’t use often!)  Here’s the opening:

When a history of 21st-century feminist activism is someday written, 2011 may be labeled Year Rape Broke. Sexual assault and harassment have, of course, always been key feminist concerns. But in 2011, sexual violence, exploitation, or intimidation were part of nearly every major story that fell under the heading of “women’s issues”–and the activism against it has been particularly widespread, focused and effective.

As we enter this renaissance of sexual assault awareness, it’s worth considering the ways in which new media has informed it–and, indeed, perhaps even made it possible. …

You can read the rest on the In These Times website.

Full disclosure: I worked at ITT for a couple of years in the 90s (yes, I’m old), and Sady says some nice things about Man Boobz in the piece.

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Holly Pervocracy
11 years ago

I notice that “Jews lie, it’s their religion” is, like “women lie about rape,” very selectively applied.

Although it stands to reason that anyone could be a Jew and just lying about their Gentile status, only people who have named themselves as Jews are attacked with “YOU LYING JEW!”

(The parallel here, which I’ve talked about before, is that MRAs are only afraid of rape accusations from women they’ve slept with. Even though any woman could falsely accuse them.)

It’s like… I honestly can’t tell if that means that on some level they know how full of shit they are, or not.

Leni
Leni
11 years ago

Lol did anyone happen to mention where the “eye for an eye” quote comes from? Well at least the one in the Tor-, er, Bible?

Here’s a clue NWO, you stupid bigot, IT’S A BIG JEW LIE!!!!!1!!!!

kladle
kladle
11 years ago

Hey NWO, I have a Christmas song for you. To the tune of “Feliz Navidad”

Jesus was a Jew
(doo doo doo do doo)
Jesus was a Jew
(doo doo doo do doo)
Jesus was a Jew
Yes, a big old giant Jew
(doo doo doo doo!)

I wanna tell you Jesus was a Jew
(doo doo doo do doo)
I hope you realize Jesus was a Jew
(doo doo doo do doo)
Why do you hate Jesus so very much
(doo doo doo do doo)
From the bottom
Of your heart????
(DOO DOO DOO DOO!)

Kendra, the bionic mommy
Kendra, the bionic mommy
11 years ago

I need to apologize to any Grinches in the world who steal Christmas. I should have never compared them to NWO. After all, even the Grinch had a change of heart. I don’t think NWO ever will.

firebee
11 years ago

I don’t know that there’s much point in attempting to read for consistent meaning. That sort of thing is only relevant to people who occupy more or less the same planet as the rest of us.

On a related note, was it here or somewhere else that folks were talking about the somewhat collective nature of seemingly disparate prejudices — where a person upon demonstrating a sufficiently virulent hatred of women invariably be found to have the same set of whacky ideas as regards sexual orientation, race, religion, et cetera in a way that seems to end invariably in eugenics (and similar starting at any point in the circle, the racist is found to be misogynist, the homophobe is found also to be an anti-semite, mumble mumble ranty rant kill them all for the good of the species)?

zhinxy
11 years ago

kladle – *dies*

Kyrie
Kyrie
11 years ago

WTF happened to this thread? By the great FSM, I just read 4 pages of a Christian crying because asking whether or not he believes in the new testament is a trap* while yelling back religious quotes to a non religious person?
That was weird. And not manboobz usual weird.

*when Jesus was asked trick questions, he answered with smart answers. No screaming or silencing the person.

zhinxy
11 years ago

Kyrie, you know what happened? Nwo happened. Sometimes, sometimes, if you’re a very lucky troll connoisseur… NWO happens to a thread, Man. Hardcore happens to a thread. Not just does his regular trolling, but HAPPENS to a thread. And then you’re in for something special. Like today.

zhinxy
11 years ago

Also, I’m gonna post more Dutch Jesus Christ Superstar.

zhinxy
11 years ago

Seriously, give that one in particular a listen, even if you’ve passed on all zhinxy’s world superstar postings spree so far, it’s amazing.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
11 years ago

“Lol did anyone happen to mention where the “eye for an eye” quote comes from? Well at least the one in the Tor-, er, Bible?”

I think my favorite thing about Slavey’s crusade against the evil Jewish bankers who have poisoned the UN with flouride is the fact that he’s one of those Christians who takes all of his moral guidance from the Old Testament and almost completely ignores anything Jesus is actually supposed to have said.

Kavette
Kavette
11 years ago

What’s so sad is I don’t believe that slavey believes really anything that he writes. He does of course hate the world but this could be a website about anything and he’d hate it.

He just needs attention anyways he can get it. It’s too bad he doesn’t have family or friends to be with, but his own fault he never will.

hellkell
hellkell
11 years ago

Kavette, I’d agree with you that he doesn’t believe it if I knew he didn’t act like this everywhere else on the web. Hell, the man gets his talking points from the KKK.

Caraz
Caraz
11 years ago

Kavette, NWO is almost a carbon copy of several other fundamentalist Christians I’ve encountered. He gets his talking points from all the same places, he uses all the same rhetoric and supports all the same positions.

Either he’s as genuine as they come or he has done a hell of a lot of research.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
11 years ago

Actually the “Kol Nidre” canard takes me back, way back, to skinhead Berlin. Slavey makes me glad to be a Zionist, I have done heavy lifting for Israel but nothing like what he imagines, which is hallucinatory. And I do like Sady in general, and on Elevatorgate and M:TG scandal in particular.

Kavette
Kavette
11 years ago

I don’t think he is what he says he is simply because of much he posts. Frankly I could (if I wanted to be physically sick) make up the same things he does. I believe in a way he’s done a great deal of research by the joining the boards of every hate board there is.

The internet is his life and sadly instead of finding friends on it, he looks only for enemies or others with the equal amount of hate towards life itself that he has.

If not he’d being taking time off on Sundays for hate filled extreme right “christian” worship and klan meetings. Unless he really doesn’t work at all unless he’s sleeping he seems to always be here. Considering this isn’t the only board he writes on and has admitted to sitting in front of a computer instead of texting on a phone his life is really fucked. This is all there is for him.

WE are his entire social life.

M Dubz
M Dubz
11 years ago

@ Holly *hugs* for the shitty Jewish misogyny. As a Jewish feminist and future rabbi, stuff like what you describes REALLY gets my gall, and you deserve way better than that.

… and here’s the thing, there are some really truly legitimately fucked up bits in the Talmud. I remember studying a section of Yoma that essentially started a legal argument about clearing buildings off of people with the legal premise that “If a building falls on a bunch of gentiles during the Sabbath, don’t violate the Sabbath to save them,” which, while far more complicated than that, was still 50 different kinds of NOT OKAY.

Here’s the thing. We TALK about how those bits are not okay. We re-interpret them to follow justice. We care about, and acknowledge that there are problematic aspects of our religion.

And NWO is an asshole.

Shaenon
11 years ago

NWO, a few hours ago I saw a fig tree, and I kicked the shit out of that motherfucker. What have you done to honor Jesus today?

This is an awesome line and deserves to be repeated.

Personally, I honored Jesus by getting my mother a fuckton of wine.

captainbathrobe
11 years ago

This isn’t the first time NWO has gotten in a tizzy over the idea of JOOS mocking Christianity. As I recall, this was his big problem with Tom Lehrer’s The Vatican Rag. It was then that I first learned that Lehrer was raised in a Jewish family. It hadn’t occurred to me to look it up before then.

Of course, most Catholics I know find the song hilarious.

Explore Nature
11 years ago

These feminists are brainless jokers…….

Kyrie
Kyrie
11 years ago

That’s not true. We couldn’t make terrible god-defying jokes if we had no brain. And I thought we were supposed to be heartless bitches, is it both now?
And now that I think of it, we’re we called IRL cowards just a week ago? We should hurry to see the wizard of Oz before all our other internal organs disappear as well.

Pecunium
11 years ago

NWO: About the Talmud, you know nothing of it. If you did you wouldn’t be quoting KKK riffs on what it says.

First, it’s not the, “bible” of the Jews. It’s, several, collections of arguments about how to live the 613 laws (mitzvot) in Leviticus and Deuteronomy.

They all start with a statement (such as the first tractate in Bava Metziah I (the “first” book of The Babylonian Talmud, which is what most people are referring to when they say, “the Talmud”. There are other Talmudim, but I digress), which says, “Two men come to you, holding a garmet, each saying, “I have found it, it is mine.”

From there come a number of arguments, which are used to discuss the laws of found property, holding goods in trust, divorce, misuse of property, the disposition of stolen goods a third party thought were honestly purchased and I forget what all else.

Take the first lie you quoted:

Sanhedrin 59a: “Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal.”

There is no such passage. What Sanhedrin 59a says is, R. Johanan said: A heathen who studies the Torah deserves death, for it is written, Moses command us a law for an inheritance; it is our inheritance, not theirs.”

From there comes the arguing. In fact the tractate determines that Rav Johanan was wrong; even at that the language used, “worthy of death,” is a reference to a judicial punishment.

When all is said and done the decision is actually that a non-Jew who studies Torah (not Talmud… Torah is the Jewish Canon, roughly parallel to the Old Testament: which isn’t the same from one Christian sect to another) becomes as a High Priest. Far from calling for the death of non-Jews, it praises them.

That one, alone, gives the lie to all you blather about people unfairly mocking yuor faith for asking you questions about how you reconcile your actions to the published tenets.

It also, perhaps, explains how you do that; if this is your level of understanding, or research.

Pecunium
11 years ago

NWO: I missed this (it’s been busy here), what with work, and Christmas (which would have been the center of my working world, even were I not Christian, because I am working retail), and New Years this slipped through the cracks:

@Amused

Of course you know more about being a Christian than me. You don’t tell me how to be a Christian. You don’t ever speak about being a Christian. You don’t ever say anything about any Christian or about the Christian faith.

Once you do. I have free rein to tell you how to be a good Jew. All the atrocities of every single Jew who ever did anything wrong. Once you, open your all-knowing yap about anything pertaining to Christians/Christianity. I mock every aspect of your faith from calf worshipping to talmud goodieosity. Savvy?

Amused does know more about Christianity than you do. There are some aspects of what she said to you which I think were either confusing, or confused (there is nothing about thinking about adultery in the commandments), but the core of what she’s said is true.

But you claim to be Christian. You are supposed to be an example; to show the world by your actions, which are guided by your faith. Honest in all things, forgiving, and loving; being kind to your enemies, even as they are murdering you for that faith.

You… you can’t even bring yourself to forgive someone who says something scatological about Jesus. Heaven help you if you were to face a more brutal test, though were I you I would pray for help with the little ones.

As Jesus said, “by their fruits shall ye know them”. Your fruits are bitter, and full of hatred. You are a poor evangelist.

You don’t have a fucking clue about Talmud. You probably can’t tell me the difference between Chabad, and Hillel. I’m not jewish (I’m a Christian, of a flavor you despise). So when someone is correct about christianity, you’d be wise to not try to abuse their religion; because you are getting it wrong, which only makes it plain, the most ignorant of people, that you are the sort of Christian by affiliation, not action, which offends you.

You, never speak about Christians. Savvy? If you do I will continue to speak about Jews. It’s simple respect. If you want me to stop saying anything negative about Jews, you must affors me the same courtesy.

It has been said the truth hurts.

Which courtesy you have never extended to anyone else. You aren’t asking for respect; because Christianity has been, by and large, afforded every respect here; what you are demanding is that YOU, NWOslave never be mocked for your inability (or cussed unwillingness) to live up to the tenets of the faith you claim to serve. You are demanding us to commit an idolatry of your person.

Jesus wept.

Pecunium
11 years ago

NWO: Holly hasn’t fucked a little girl under 3. She’s a bad Jew.
Holly, as far as I know hasn’t killed a gentile. She’s a bad Jew.
Holly, as far as I know hasn’t stolen from a gentile. She’s a bad Jew.

Ooh… let me play.

NWO Hasn’t plucked his own eyes out, he’s a bad Christian.

NWO Hasn’t cut off his hand, he’s a bad Christian.

NWO hasn’t forgiven Holly, he’s a bad christian.

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