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The inhabitants of Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit seem to have developed a sudden crush on the authoritarian Chinese government. Why? Well, it seems that the lovable tyrants have decided to crack down on evil golddigger bitches. According to an article in The Telegraph, linked to in the subreddit,

In a bid to temper the rising expectations of Chinese women, China’s Supreme Court has now ruled that from now on, the person who buys the family home, or the parents who advance them the money, will get to keep it after divorce.

“Hopefully this will help educate younger people, especially younger women, to be more independent, and to think of marriage in the right way rather than worshipping money so much,” said Hu Jiachu, a lawyer in Hunan province.

The ruling should also help relieve some of the burden on young Chinese men, many of whom fret about the difficulty of buying even a small apartment.

Never mind that the lopsided demographics in China today — where young men greatly outnumber young women, making it harder for young men to find wives  — are not the result of excess feminism, but the result of a toxic mixture of cultural misogyny and the authoritarian regime’s “one child” program. As William Saletan explains the logic in Slate:

Girls are culturally and economically devalued; the government uses powerful financial levers to prevent you from having another child; therefore, to make sure you can have a boy, you abort the girl you’re carrying.

The result? 16 million “missing girls” in China. Ironically, the skewed ratio of men to women gives young women considerable leverage in chosing whom to marry – and that’s what the Men’s Rightser’s seem to see as the real injustice here.

As Evil Pundit wrote, evidently speaking for many (given the numerous upvotes he got):

Wow. I’ve always disliked the authoritarian Chinese government, but for once, it’s done something good.

I may need to reconsider my attitude.

IncrediblyFatMan added:

China wants to become the next superpower and world leader. They aren’t going to do it by allowing the kinds of social decay that rot away at the competing nations.

Revorob joked:

If they brought that in over here, most women in Australia would be living on the street.

“Or,” Fondueguy quipped in response, “they could learn to work.”

At the moment, all the comments in the thread praising the Chinese government for this move (and there are many more)  have net upvotes; the only comment in the negative? One suggesting that the Telegraph isn’t exactly a reliable source.

Speaking of which, here’s a more balanced look at the issue on China.org.cn that examines some of the consequences of the new ruling for Chinese women.

Let’s look at some of those. According to one Beijing lawyer quoted in the piece:

“[H]ousewives, especially those in the rural areas who have no job and are responsible for taking care of their families, will be affected most by this new change,” she said. “If their husbands want a divorce, they are likely to be kicked out of the house with nothing.”

Luo Huilan, a professor of women’s studies at China Women’s University in Beijing, agreed.

In rural areas, she said, men have the final say in family matters. All essential family assets, such as home, car and bank deposits, are registered in the men’s names, and women fill the roles of only wife, mother and farmworker.

“Their labor, though substantial, hardly gets recognition. Without a good education, they have to rely heavily on their husbands,” Luo said. “In case of divorce, a woman is driven out of her husband’s life, home and family, and finds herself an alien even in her parents’ home. No wonder the new interpretation of the Marriage Law has aroused concern among women.”

And no wonder it’s drawn cheers on the Men’s Rights subreddit.

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NWOslave
NWOslave
10 years ago

@captainbathrobe

It’s common knowlege. I can’t believe you people will argue over anything. This is like 8th grade stuff here.

Never mind captainbathrobe, they use capitals cause it’s easier to read, yea thats it.

Whoa, I’m outta here.

KathleenB
KathleenB
10 years ago

NWO: Somehow I doubt a first line CSR has the ability to change the way computer programs format data. And I also doubt that you’ll be able to make any headway with the programming department, either.

KathleenB
KathleenB
10 years ago

Whoa, I’m outta here.,/i>

Again, and I am unanimous in this, don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
10 years ago

Yes, please leave. I can actually feel my IQ dropping. Look! All caps!

Rachel
Rachel
10 years ago

Hehe, its common knowledge? Whoa, someone is doing a TERRIBLE job of giving all of that common knowledge to the people who, you know, actually teach and practice and enforce the law! BUT HOW WILL ALL OF THOSE CONTRACTS NOT IN CAPITAL LETTERS BE ENFORCED! Whatever will happen?! The humanity!

captainbathrobe
10 years ago

NWOSLAVE, IF YOU READ THESE WORDS YOU WILL BE BOUND BY A CONTRACT…TO HENCEFORTH STOP BEING SUCH A CREDULOUS YAHOO.

Sharculese
10 years ago

@bee- advanced contracts? ugh, two semesters was enough, thanks

Spearhafoc
10 years ago

This is like 8th grade stuff here.

Where did you go to school?!

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Capital letters means corporate? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA… ooooh shit, son, stop–you ARE KILLING ME WITH LAUGHTER.

Did you really say this:

Credit card addressed to you that you own, JOHN DOE.
Credit card adressed to you that wants your business, John Doe.

Because there’s so much wrong there, up to and including the fact that you don’t really “own” credit.

And you still have no grasp of commodities speculation, I see.

NWO, your stupid makes makes the baby Jesus cry.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

“Where did you go to school?!”

All we know is, it was just one giant class called Learnin.

Sharculese
10 years ago

also i wish i had known about the doctrine of capitals equals corporate today so could have proposed doing my 30 page corporate governance paper on that instead of when directors have a duty to liquidate

captainbathrobe
10 years ago

Spear, you beat me to it. He must have gone to a highly unusual middle school.

Rachel
Rachel
10 years ago

Seriously, this is like the best description of a contract I have ever read…I am contemplating sending it around my lawfirm tomorrow for the lulz.

hellkell
hellkell
10 years ago

Rachel, you should and report back.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

_THE STATE_

YEAH, RACHEL, DO IT.

Now you have to. You’re legally bound by a contract owned by the state.

Rachel
Rachel
10 years ago

Well I have already shared it with a few different attorneys, and everyone agrees that it made their night and they got a good chuckle out of it. One friend who is waiting on her bar results said, “I told you I failed the bar… :)”

VoiP
VoiP
10 years ago

Your knowlege of finances and market forces are infantile at best. First off you need to dispel any notion you live in a capitalist society. Take the price of gas for instance, how can it fluctuate so radically? Has supply dropped and grown so radically? Of course not the price is “set” and has nothing to do with supply or demand. There is no competition, therefore there is no capitalism. The same is for virtually all minerals, foods, etc. When lumber or pork bellies or oil goes up. Did the trees grow poorly? Did the pigs go on strike? Have the oil wells run dry? You live in a communist society.

We need to restore capitalism by instituting strict price controls.

Rachel
Rachel
10 years ago

Now that it’s a legal obligation, I guess I have no choice! I don’t want the state to come after me…

captainbathrobe
10 years ago

I would like to take this opportunity to thank NWO for the hours of free entertainment he has provided us. Seriously, you should think about retaining an agent and going on tour–just beware any CAPITAL LETTER contracts, lest the Rothschilds take possession of your soul.

Kave
Kave
10 years ago

My will is in lowercase. I guess it means nothing.

Idiot.

Kave
Kave
10 years ago

My marriage license shows our names in lowercase. I guess I’m not married.

Idiot

Kave
Kave
10 years ago

Not all my work contracts have my name in uppercase. I guess I don’t have that business.

Idiot.

KathleenB
KathleenB
10 years ago

Kave: Holy shit, I think my marriage license is the same! OH, THE HORROR! Is it a plot? Maybe the county clerks are uncapitalizing the licenses of feminists, just to make sure our evil, castrating marriages aren’t valid. I demand an investigation!

Kave
Kave
10 years ago

I doubt slave will be back tonight. He has issues with saying maybe I was wrong and I don’t know everything.

I know he’s reading though. Life lesson for you slave. First no one knows everything. Second when you make a statement that you think is fact and everyone around you both denounces and shows you evidence to the contrary it’s time to say no one knows everything.

Third is easy. When you get your world view from conspiracy websites from people who wear tinfoil hats expect to be doing the second a great deal of the time.

captainbathrobe
10 years ago

You know, I really think NWO is off somewhere muttering about how ignorant some people are. He really believes this is common knowledge.

Tonight, I think I finally understand how Michelle Bachman could become president. Her base is people who think the shit NWO believes is “common knowledge.”

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