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The Cock Blockade

Benedict Arnold: Don't let your dick be like this guy!

There are a lot of manosphere misogynists and  MRAs who think that “Game” (pick-up artistry) offers a sort of liberation for guys  who heretofore have been at a horrible disadvantage to stuck-up bitches in the dating arena. But there are others – and the blogger at Omega Virgin Revolt is one of them – who think that spending so much time trying to figure out how to impress women is not only a waste of time but a sort of capitulation to the evil that is women. To put it in the parlance of the manosphere: If women are just a bunch of cunts, why waste your life chasing pussy?

I recently ran across a comment on the blog  Omega Virgin Revolt that explains this particular theory quite cogently. Well, as cogently as these guys ever get. (I’ve taken the liberty of editing out some of the less-comprehensible bits.) According to this anonymous non-Gamer:

Men have so much power that they literally give it away…  [by] chasing tail. Biological impulses my ass. Humans have this thing called the ability to think and the power to choose. It’s why we are at the top of the food chain yet there are much larger and stronger creatures that exist. Apply that to women and sex as well. If [men would] go on a sex strike like the MRM should have [done] as one of it’s primary objectives … .

It’s like Lysistrata, only with penises.

Which makes men who chase after women sexual strikebreakers. Scabs. Traitors. Collaborators. BeneDICK Arnolds who are quite literally sleeping with the enemy.  

Who in their right mind thinks that fraternizing is going to get them anywhere? First off it makes men in general look like … out of control [scum] who only want sex and gives women even more reason to view us all like that. Well I myself am not manipulated by sex and once men get to that point, women simply can’t overcome that. And you know why? Because they have to bring something else besides it which many unfortunately don’t comprehend.

Yep. We’re back to the MRA misogynist theory – discussed here previously – that the only thing women bring to the table, as possible romantic partners and humans, is the vagina. And that when men “call them on it,” as it were, they will collapse in a heap, realizing they can’t lord it over men with the power of their vaginas any more.

Our anonymous philosopher then makes what he evidently sees as a highly cutting remark about feminism:

Isn’t that actually being a true feminist and the basis to which we should all hold women up to?

Um … yes? Feminism does indeed suggest that the worth of women does not inhere entirely in their vaginas, at least not any more so than the worth of men inheres in their dicks.

What do we want? Genital equality!

When do we want it! Now!

But back to our anonymous friend and his manifesto:

You go to war, the first thing you do is try to embargo or blockade your enemy’s means of getting supplies to keep their own war effort going long before the firs[t] shot is fired. But these days, men are giving women all that and much more just to turn around use on them.

That’s right, fellows. He’s talking about a cock blockade. Cut off their dick supply at the source!

Urk. Let me reword that last bit:

Keep your dicks locked down, far from the grasping hands of desperate women. Starve them out.

Soon enough they’ll surrender, and come out waving white flags. And, presumably, their panties.

Profit??

EDIT: I changed the title to one that darksidecat recommended. It’s really a much better title.

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ApeMan1976
10 years ago

“8 feet tall, face like Brad Pitt, body like Taylor Lautner”

You just described a fantastically scary monster that NO ONE would ever have sex with. Brad Pitt, BTW, has a KILLER body and does not need help from Taylor Lautner’s little-boy abs.

MissPrism
MissPrism
10 years ago

8 feet tall with Brad Pitt’s pancreas and teeth like pickaxes! Rampaging through the city spitting and stomping and spitting, oh the spitting!

The Alpha’s description is getting funnier and more imaginative every time MRAL posts a comment.

Titfortat
10 years ago

Getting mad at women in general makes no more sense to me than getting mad at, I dunno, people with red hair.(David)

Interesting thought, do you miss the fact that most people who hate usually were hurt or slighted by the ones they direct their rage at? Pretty simple formula actually.

Amnesia
Amnesia
10 years ago

@T4T

It’s one thing to hate the specific person that did something horrible to you, and another to hate all people that share something in common with the person that did something horrible to you.

For example, say you were beaten up by a guy with a beard. No one could blame you for hating the one guy that beat you up. However, if you were to use that one guy with a beard who beat you up as an excuse to attack all guys with beards, then that’s a problem.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

Titfortat: Getting mad at women in general makes no more sense to me than getting mad at, I dunno, people with red hair.(David)

Interesting thought, do you miss the fact that most people who hate usually were hurt or slighted by the ones they direct their rage at? Pretty simple formula actually.

So, if I may rephrase, you’re saying that MRAs have been hurt or slighted by women in general?

Because if so, I think they’d agree with that statement. And that, actually, is what makes them so … weird for me. I think that, you take any random MRA, and somewhere in his past there’s a bad divorce or a bad breakup or a series of women who didn’t want to date him, despite the fact that he’s objectively awesome — and then he somehow gets involved with the MRM (despite what Ion up there said about how it’s impossible to just “discover” MRM sites and ideas without specifically looking for them*) and realizes that evil women in general have been ruining all aspects of his life forever!

It’s weird because instead of just being mad at Jayden or Kaylee or whoever wouldn’t go out with him, he has chosen to dive into the mysterious world of conspiracy, where women control — and then actively ruin — everything.

*Which is what happened to me, but whatever.

Titfortat
10 years ago

And herein lies the dysfunction of the damaged person. For whatever reason they generally dont think objectively. Their pain overwhelms their reasoning. The interesting thing is, that type of thinking isnt necessarily gender specific. David is just having fun with one side of the coin.

Amnesia
Amnesia
10 years ago

@T4T
I seriously hope you’re not implying that we should excuse those who hurt others because they were once hurt themselves.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

Titfortat: I see where you’re getting that, but I’m gonna say it’s less about being damaged (who hasn’t been damaged in some way?) and more about … I dunno. A lack of critical thinking skills? A weakness for conspiracy? An unrealistic view of the world?

As far as the “one side of the coin” observation, please show me the female version of the MRM. If you’re talking about a group of women getting together and telling their friend who’s just been through a bad break up, “Men are such dogs! They’re jerks! They don’t know what’s good for them! …” sure, that happens. But I have yet to run across an even semi-organized, named, self-identifying group of women who take as their agenda Hating All Men For Various Reasons But Mostly Because They Are Gross and Evil. If you have found such a thing, please let me know. I’d be curious.

titfortat
10 years ago

Amnesia

Remember, I was referring to David’s comment about not understanding. I have made no reference to excusing anyone.

Bee

I would probably agree with you, though I havnt spent any time looking for the equivalent. I have seen some pretty nasty stuff on an individual basis(even on here) but not as a collective.

mediumdave
mediumdave
10 years ago

The thing that characterizes the MRM isn’t so much that they been hurt (as Bee says, who hasn’t?) but that their sense of entitlement has been frustrated by reality. Someone must be to blame, because there couldn’t be anything wrong with me, so the thinking goes. It’s not too different from, say, a talentless but ambitious actor blaming his lack of success on people being “jealous” of his awesomeness (not thinking of anyone specific, or course. 😉 ).

Snowy
Snowy
10 years ago

mediumdave – winning!

titfortat
10 years ago

medium

I dont agree fully. There is always going to be some within that group that are clearly working from a sense of entitlement. They are pretty easy to spot. The sociopaths in the group are also pretty easy to spot. The group that is extremly damaged and acting out of hurt is much less evident. Because unfortunately they get caught up in the rhetoric and feel empowered by it. The challenge as I see it is to try to weed out who is who and then try not to belittle the group as a whole. Easier said than done but necessary if we are to attempt to heal the divisive wounds we all carry. Some days Im good at it and other days Im pretty shitty. Getting better though. 🙂

Simone Lovelace
10 years ago

@T4T
I seriously hope you’re not implying that we should excuse those who hurt others because they were once hurt themselves.

This is titfortat we’re dealing with; that is exactly what he thinks.

Nobby
10 years ago

@Simone to be fair, he did just refute that above.

Amused
Amused
10 years ago

Sorry, T4T, I belittle antisemites as a whole. Racists, too. I don’t care if their hatred stems from a “sense of entitlement” to be privileged, or a sense of hurt that someone who isn’t supposed to be privileged took “their” job/college admission/girlfriend/luxury condo. I don’t care if they feel justified in hating Jews or non-whites because there was this one time they met a Jew or a brown person who wasn’t nice to them, boo-hoo. I don’t care if they are “really” hateful, or just feel “empowered” by hateful rhetoric because they feel “hurt” by the lack of power over people who feel are beneath them. I don’t care because there is no difference. It’s ALL entitlement and getting off on hatred. Why should the rules be any different for misogynists? Because it’s somehow more acceptable to hate women than it is to hate Jews or black people? A bigot is a bigot is a bigot is a bigot. No matter what happens to us, we choose who we become in life. Some people choose to become hateful scum. And they deserve nothing but mockery, shame and contempt.

titfortat
10 years ago

Some people choose to become hateful scum. And they deserve nothing but mockery, shame and contempt(Amused)

Many dont, Obviously this guy thought that too.

Here are Oscar Hammerstein’s lyrics to “You’ve Got to Be Carefully Taught”:

You’ve got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You’ve got to be taught
From year to year,
It’s got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You’ve got to be carefully taught.

You’ve got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff’rent shade,
You’ve got to be carefully taught.

You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You’ve got to be carefully taught!

Pecunium
10 years ago

Ion: You don’t run into MRAs while casually browsing. : Oh yes, yes I do. Why? Because they come to sites I do casually browse, and tell the locals all about the MRA stuff that they can’t keep to themselves.

I also see them when non-randomly browsing because they come to my blog (on occasion), when I post something about feminism.

Then there are the times I meet them in the flesh, where they detail all the horrors of the, “laws meant to punsish men”, or start to rail about how men ought not have to be responsible for the child they had a hand in creating.

So yeah… I run into MRAs without going out of my way to find them. But you know, you aren’t coming here casually. So what makes you different from Dave? He’s defending a point of view he holds. So are you.

The petty insults (I think the MRA term is “shaming language” aren’t all that convincing. Even if we accept, arguendo, that any of that happened; it doesn’t have any bearing on what DAve is saying; that makes it ad hominem (i.e. you are implying that his motives are bad, worse you aren’t even doing it with factual insults, but rather engaging in sly innuendo).

And really… I don’t think Dave has to go that far out of his way to find these examples.

Playing guitar is a hobby. Forming an online clique in order to single out and mock a certain group of people is… not sure what, but it does take a certain kind of mentality to enjoy it.

It takes a certain kind of mentality to enjoy the guitar too. I happen to engage in debate as a hobby. That means comment threads are part of it. A hobby is a thing one does for love, and enjoyment. It can be all encompassing, or not so much. It can be physical (woodworking, automobile restoration, bicycling), or not so much (birdwatching, concert going, photography).

Q.E.D this can be a hobby.

Lame. Not even worth a real answer. Explain please how this, “lame” response differed from your implications that Dave is doing this because he was picked on by larger males in his youth?

Amused
Amused
10 years ago

*Shrug* I suppose it’s easy, T4T, to be indulgent towards bigotry when it’s not directed at you, and when you aren’t a member of a group that has a history of being oppressed.

Pecunium
10 years ago

tit4tat: And what Dave is doing is mocking those who are teaching others to hate.

The ideals behind the MRAs are as nasty as any other form of oppressive ideology. They other, and abuse,the caricatures of women. They say they deserve to be abused. They say that hurting them, stripping them of rights, denying them an equal standing is morally justified, and the proper thing to do.

There is a word for that. Evil. They deserve to be mocked, and ridiculed and made to look ridiculous.

titfortat
10 years ago

pecunium

Go back a reread what I referenced in regards to the group of mra’s.

Amused

You dont know me. You dont know if I have been oppressed, beaten, belittled. Please before you make assumptions take a deep breath and think.

Holly
10 years ago

Oh hey! Tit for Tat! That dude was just on my blog arguing that abuse victims should have their children put into foster care as punishment for “abusing the children to an abusive environment!”

He’s a winner, he is.

Simone Lovelace
10 years ago

@Nobby

He did not refute it to my satisfaction. I think titfortat is one of those people who talks a good game about “understanding, not justifying,” then makes policy recommendations that look a hell of lot like justifying.

He’s also argued at length, on another blog, that abuse victims share accountability with their abusers, and that a person who ends up in a string of abusive relationships should have their children taken way.

So forgive me if I never ever give him the benefit of the doubt. Ever.

titfortat
10 years ago

Wow, and you are a bald face liar.

Pecunium
10 years ago

tit4tat: You are making assumptions. I read what you wrote.

In it, though you don’t think so, is a mild aplogia. You said Dave is having fun with one side of the coin.

That implies there is a flip side, and two, that this is, when all is said and done, not that relevant,. “having fun”.

The thing is… the MRAs aren’t just outliers in comments. Those comments aren’t uncommon, and the top-posters at blogs aren’t all that much better; even when they aren’t as bad.

So no, I don’t think the level of outrage being shown on the part of MRAs is at all excusable, because what they are demanding is the enforcement of a second class status (at best) to half the population.

I’m not going to cut them any slack.

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