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Vox Day thinks lying is great “persuasion.” Unless people are lying about him.

Vox cries moar

By David Futrelle

The last time we checked in on the execrable racist fantasy author Theodore “Vox Day” Beale, he was urging his followers to smear leftists by posting fake memes, ostensibly from AntiFa activists, advocating domestic violence against women and children. This kind of dishonesty, he proclaimed, was a particularly “effective” form of “persuasion” that only “spergs” could possibly oppose.

But it turns out that Mr. Day doesn’t admire lying quite so much when people are lying about him.

In recent days, Vox has launched an all-out war on Gab, the “free speech” Twitter alternative that’s become something of a haven for shitlords and Nazis. Vox is angry, you see, that Gab’s admins won’t take down a handful of comments smearing him as a pedophile, apparently posted by several Daily Stormer fans who don’t think Vox is enough of a Nazi to hang with the alt-right.

Gab’s refusal to delete these comments, Vox declared in a post a couple of days ago, makes the site “knowingly complicit in publishing these false, malicious, and defamatory statements.” And so he threatened to unleash his “flying monkey” squad to dox the offending Gab commenters and to task his “Legal Legion of Evil” (no, that’s really what he calls them) with, well, whatever Legal Legions of Evil do.

“[T]he Legal Legion and I,” Vox announced in a followup post,

will be pursuing this matter until the defamation is removed and the @dantheman10, @GTKRWN, and @Fabian_Nazism are forced to answer for their defamatory actions.

In yet another post yesterday, Vox assures his readers that “I am not seeking to harm Gab” before going on to declare that, since “Gab has elected to act as an obstacle to [my] objectives … that obstacle will be removed.”

Vox, as you may have gathered by now, loves to monologue like a cartoon villain.

He’s also been enthusiastically accusing the “Daily Stormpoopers,” as he calls them, of an assortment of things that he is also guilty of. The “stormpoopers,” he rails,

cannot be trusted, ever, since deceit is literally the core of their instruction manual. Lying, exaggerating their influence, and shitting on the carpet of every online abode that welcomes them is the full extent of their accomplishments.

Projection ain’t just a river in Egypt.

Naturally, Vox’s many enemies on Gab have responded with some highly sophisticated arguments of their own. Like calling him “Vox Gay.”

Nixon · @NixonSlartlak 2 days After a long talk with my good pal, @voxday about how he's completely addicted to n---er and jewish semen... I've convinced him to change his name to Vox Gay.

卐 Hitler Did Nothing Wrong 卐 GAS the (((??))) · @gerbils 13 hours I never even heard of VOX GAY until all of this drama, he's the laughingstock of Gab.

And of course others have been doubling down on the pedophile accusations.

Tom · @h4rdm0us 13 hours Vox Day's wife is a c-nt, his mother is a whore, and he's a pedophile. Oh no don't sue!

GorillionJazz · @GorillionJazz ? Politics · 44 minutes Vox Gay doesnt care about those things, just shekels and hide the fact that he is a child rapist

Rufus RIchards · @RufusRichards 16 hours Vox Day might not be a pedophile but his wife has the body of a 17 year old boy CREEPY

And then of course there are the memes, like this one, comparing Vox with the Daily Stormer’s Andrew Anglin.

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And this one, with Vox in a sort of time-out:

I’m sure it gets worse than this, but I really don’t want to spend any more time poking around on Gab to find out.

Today, Vox Day and Andrew Anglin took their ongoing slap fight to YouTube, ostensibly debating the merits of National Socialism for an hour on something called Reality Calls. I’m sure it was quite, er, informative, but I’m not going to watch it to find out.

This is one of those fights in which you hope all sides lose, big league.

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Eyes on the Right
8 years ago

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Perpetually Ignored, Invisible but Noice) Sarcastic
8 years ago

So the little asshole doesn’t like it when *he’s* the target of harassment and lies?

This is my shocked face. ?

Tough shit, bozo. How’s that “effective rhetoric” working out for you, ❄?

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
8 years ago

So Pox is angry that a site explicitly dedicated to not cracking down on frozen peaches, a site he and his buddies support explicitly because it won’t crack down on frozen peaches, won’t crack down on frozen peaches.

Fabe
Fabe
8 years ago

I’ve always believed that if these guy ever got their way and exterminated and/or enslaved everyone they deemed inferior the first thing they would would be to turn on each other. Stuff like this pretty much proves it.

TheKND
TheKND
8 years ago

How can you spend an hour discussing “the merits of national socialism”? All a sane person can get out of it is “it makes for good movie villains”.

Space Oddity
Space Oddity
8 years ago

They’ve also been insulting his wife, which has caused Beale to go on about what misogynistic assholes they are.

Really. The joke is I’m not joking.

EJ (the Scheming Liberal Race-Traitor)

Gab is a terrible idea through and through. Hopefully, the sooner the people behind it learn their lesson, the happier they’ll be.

Anna in PDX
Anna in PDX
8 years ago

As usual whenever I see the alt right nazis fighting amongst themselves this comes to mind.

The big orc, spear in hand, leapt after him. But the tracker … put an arrow in his eye as he ran up…. The other ran off across the valley and disappeared.

For a while the hobbits sat in silence. At length Sam stirred. ‘Well I call that neat as neat,’ he said. ‘If this nice friendliness would spread about in Mordor, half our trouble would be over.’

‘Quietly, Sam,’ Frodo whispered. … ‘We have evidently had a very narrow escape, and the hunt was hotter on our tracks than we guessed. But that is the spirit of Mordor, Sam; and it has spread to every corner of it. Orcs have always behaved like that, or so all the tales say, when they are on their own. But you can’t get much hope out of it. They hate us far more, altogether and all the time. If those two had seen us, they would have dropped all their quarrel until we were dead.’

The Return of the King, LoTR Book 6, Ch 3, Mount Doom

epitome of incomprehensibility

The person who drew the Vox vs. Anglin meme doesn’t know how a lot of things work, including:

-phenotypes
-the numerical value “hundreds”
-autism
-ethics
-arms (at least how to draw them)

Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
Sinkable John : Pansy Ass Pinko, Regicidal Beast-of-Burden
8 years ago

@epitome

-arms (at least how to draw them)

Also butts. Though that’s probably for the best.

Robert Walker-Smith
Robert Walker-Smith
8 years ago

Great, now I’m hungry for peach sorbet.

Anna in PDX, very good comparison. It wouldn’t take much for Pox and Anglin to make common cause. Anything that drives them apart, though, is good news for the rest of us.

I wonder if Pox has blamed John Scalzi yet? That seems to be one of his go-tos when his majestic dudeliness is impugned.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 years ago

@Fabe : I don’t think they would wait for, well, anything, to turn against each other.

The various racists and authoritarians have a long tradition of self-destructive internal fights. For some reason, I think it’s related to being based on hatred and envy.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Good. Let these packs of assholes destroy each other.

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Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
8 years ago

Chad Anglin looks like a Stretch Armstrong doll where some bored kid twisted every limb the wrong way.

(He also looks urgently in need of a fresh diaper.)

Tovius
Tovius
8 years ago

@weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
I’d almost forgotten just how perfect that Sarkeesian popcorn gif is.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

@Space Oddity

They’ve also been insulting his wife, which has caused Beale to go on about what misogynistic assholes they are.

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Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

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@KND

a sane person

Comments policy, thanks…

Moggie
Moggie
8 years ago

Anglin is a Chad now? I thought he was tiny and unprepossessing?

abars01
abars01
8 years ago

Wow. What an organized, cohesive, charismatic force the alt-right is. They sure are on the verge of taking over the entire Western World and repealing the past 300 years of social change, aren’t they.

Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Agent of the FemiNest Collective; Keeper of a Hell Toupee, and all-around Intergalactic Meanie
Redsilkphoenix: Jetpack Vixen, Agent of the FemiNest Collective; Keeper of a Hell Toupee, and all-around Intergalactic Meanie
8 years ago

Fabian_Nazism?!?!

Why do I get the feeling that’s supposed to be a slam on comicbook writer Fabian Nicieza? You know, the same way these guys will use celebrity icons and names regardless of whether said celebrity would actually endorse their views or not.

I’ve seen some of these accounts use Muhammad Ali and Bing Crosby as avatars / handles, amongst others. And while I don’t know what Crosby’s views were on such matters, I feel safe in saying Ali didn’t share the alt-right’s views on anything. And I strongly suspect neither guy would be happy with their respective likenesses being used by like that without their permission.

IgnoreSandra
8 years ago

So…

“I don’t want anyone to stop people from talking!”

“Oh my god they’re saying mean things about me! Shut them up!”

It’s almost like what he really wants is some imaginary site with a name like Drivel that will moderate all posts except Pox’s. Ugh. Men and their entitlement.

Also, white nationalists and their crying. I would think it funny that white supremacists spend most of their days whining if they weren’t threats to every human being in existence.

On a side note, I just got around to watching Heathers, and is Jason Dean not the perfect example of a straight white man? He has a god complex, entitlement crap, lashes out at everyone for no reason, professes to love people he clearly doesn’t love cause of how badly he treats them, he’s controlling and rapey as hell, and ugh.

Like, I went into that movie expecting a high school comedy where our heroine deals with the popular girls being assholes and maybe has a big musical number at the end where she rejects the populars’ attempt to drag her away from her real friends, but instead…just wow. I woulda had fun with my movie, but I love the movie as it is. And there’s just so much snark, it is glorious.

I see so much of myself in Heather McNamara, especially since I tracked down the musical and watched it.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

@Sandra
Yeah, the Jason Dean character was a complete asshole. I didn’t realize it back in the 90s, but after rewatching, holy crap.

Also, re: popcorn gif:
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Fujimoto
Fujimoto
8 years ago

@IgnoreSandra

Heh; Heathers sure is popular all of a sudden. I got into it a few months ago. J. D. is more terrifyingly relevant with each passing year.

On the downside, there’s a Heathers TV program coming out that sounds utterly atrocious and wrong-headed.

IgnoreSandra
8 years ago

@Kupo

Honestly, watching Jason Dean be a dick reminded me of a lot of terrible ways men have treated me or my friends, and from the moment he pulled out a gun to fire blanks at the jocks, I knew he would try to kill Veronica even if he professed to love her.

Honestly, basically all of the men Veronica interacts with are dicks.

I first saw it on Wednesday. I had a flat tire and needed to stay over at a friend’s, and they were kind enough to let me use their netflix.

@IgnoreSandra

A friend of mine is doing a Rocky preshow – Candy Store, from the Heathers musical. I liked the song, volunteered to do it, was asked to be H. McNamara. Then I wanted context, so I watched the movie. Then I listened to the musical’s soundtrack. Then I watched the musical. Now I’m in love and I connect so much to the character I was assigned and I want to make this beautiful and I could watch this movie again and again and again. It’s just so very.

J.D. seems to be every straight white man who’s designated as a loner in his terrorism of other people.

Yeah, I’ve chatted with my friend about the Heathers TV series. We’ve reached the conclusion they either didn’t see or didn’t understand either the movie (Which is relatively subtle) or the play (which is really direct in its message). That, or they’re bigots hijacking media popular with SJWs like me to support their values instead. So, I don’t intend to see it.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
8 years ago

@Redsilkphoenix
TW: fatherly abuse
ETA: and fat shaming and alcoholism and… just, a lot

Well, Crosby was abusively paternalistic towards his family, so I’m not sure he woulda found no common ground among the rabble. Probably not the nazis, but the more traditional misogynists/MRAs? Likely wouldn’t have cared for their crassness at least…

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