We live in an age unusually receptive to conspiracy theory — with a veritable army of QAnoners caught up in baroque, sadistic theories of retribution against political and cultural elites; with the vast majority of Republicans believing (or purporting to believe) that, actually, Donald Trump won the election; and with a cohort of Americans convinced that Bill Gates is planning to plant microchips in their bodies with a vaccine shot.
Despite all of this competition, incels still manage to put forth their own conspiracy theories that are just as creative as any flat-earther’s. And the incels’ theories have the added benefit of kind of making you sick to your stomach whenever you encounter them in the wild.
Consider the “blackpilled” antisemite calling himself GameDevCel who recently proposed, in a post on the BlackpillClub forums, that “[t]he Jews are behind the simultaneous hypersexualization and sexual segregation of fertile teenagers from the wider male population.”
In other words, he’s complaining that the Jews allegedly in charge of the entertainment business and cultural norms are hypersexualizing “fertile teenagers” — a.k.a. underage girls — yet not letting older dudes fuck them. Which is clearly, in the OP’s mind, a terrible way to simultaneously frustrate and oppress the hapless adult male, especially if he’s an incel.
GameDevCel tries his best to explain the consequences of this dastardly Jewish plot in a rant that is muddled and confusing and wrong on every count.
yeah its called feminism and the (((elite))) have been pushing it for extra sheckles in taxing women’s labor and breaking up the family unit for easily controllable docile citizens.
You know, if you plan to be an out-and-proud antisemite, you should probably know how to spell “shekels.”
These state run indoctornation factories called schools are used to mold the young minds in the way the government wants along with welfare programs to incentivize shitskin [Black] like breeding strategies.
What what what? Even if we set aside the racism here, none of this is making any sense. The “(((elites)))” are “hypersexualizing” teen girls in school? How? Why?
Seriously, dude, the only people here “hypersexualizing” teen girls are you perverts. It’s telling that the only examples of this sort of “hypersexualization” anyone in this thread can offer are 1) the movie Cuties, 2) parents taking their kids to gay pride parades, and 3) a St. Louis couple teaching their 3 and 5 year old daughters to pole dance.
But let’s get back to GameDevCel’s rant
It is why colleges are pushed so hard so white women can get fucked by multiple Chads and settle down with some beta provider in late 20s and have a few autistic kids in their 30s.
The point of higher education is to provide a place for “white women [to] get fucked by multiple Chads?” Why would colleges even bother to teach anything if that’s the goal?
They love any fornication except for an older established man mentally and financially ready to start a family with a 14 year old virgin, which is the hallmark of stable well adjusted societies.
Are you Woody Allen, because this sounds suspiciously like the plot to Manhattan. (Oh, but the girl in that movie is supposed to be 16. Sorry.)
The kikes hate this, hence all the shit they spew in the mainsteam media.
Ok, I guess this isn’t Woody Allen writing this.
>tl;dr marry a virgin no matter how young and homeschool the children
Don’t even consider marrying anyone, incels, until you’ve drained all the toxic sludge from your brains.
Naturally, several other commenters offered their own take on the alleged evil of keeping middle-aged men from raping “fertile teens.”
According to a commenter called Nihilistcorpse,
Only Chad can get something like this
Something like what? A 14-year-old bride?
while an Incel would be caught before it even began or if he’s a rich motherfucker with Joolywood connections, it’s the only reason why you see Chads deflowering virgins left and right while a non-Chad doesn’t even get the chance.
Either way, it’s over for us and stuff like this ain’t in our own favor.
Another commenter, berserkercel, offers his reflections on what he calls the “lie of ‘female independence,'” suggesting that the forces of world capitalism (or perhaps the alleged worldwide Jewish conspiracy) were pushing women into the workplace for short term monetary gains. For some reason the alleged (((elites)) also insist on
Making ages 12-17 “paedophilia” in the eyes of the UK public. So men only marry used up foids who can’t pairbond with the inevitable subsequent divorces of roastie foids. Creating legal fees and inheritance tax for the tax-man under the guise of “feminism” and “protecting vulnerable women”. …
Not to mention lowering the western birth rate (successfully) by using women’s own
natureartificial, and socially unacceptable (back in the day), hypergamy against them. By saying they- foids- are entitled to Chad as a boyfriend, fuck buddy andFathersperm donor through shit femsperg magazines on any Supermarket shelf.Hence the rise of the facebook dog lady.
It’s over.
If any of that makes sense to you, well, I’m impressed. I read this shit for a living and I can understand only about half of that word vomit.
The only thing that’s clear is that these guys really do need to be, well, segregated from “fertile teens” and adult women alike.
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@Surplus to Requirements:
Of course, the Russian alphabet makes a lot more sense if you’re already familiar with the Greek alphabet, which has a lot of the same quirks. Unsurprisingly, considering that Saint Cyril and his brother, the men who created the Glagolthic script (the predecessor to modern Cyrillic), were both Greek monks.
@Surplus
Many languages are taught to native speakers in exactly this fashion; English is a bastard farrago of a language with no consistent grammatical rules to speak of, and really can’t be taught that way.
@ Dali
Well we stole everyone else’s spices and antiquities; so I guess nicking a few useful words and phrases was also on the cards. We need that word for being overwhelmed by how cute an animal is though.
But you raise a good point. You see a lot of discussion about the difference between illegal and unlawful. But in reality they are completely synonymous and interchangeable. Just one is from Norman French and the other is Norse; from the Danelaw days.
In school, we were taught some English grammar rules – or perhaps “guidelines” is a better word? Not in terms of formal grammar (at least in lower grades), but rather by example. Obviously, we first had to learn formal grammar terminology in Finnish context.
We were also taught pronunciation of common words, but by practical necessity vocabulary building was mostly done on written words. More recently, I’ve dealt almost exclusively with written English both in my work and hobbies. It works great for my professional needs, but my oral English skills are relatively neglected. Sometimes I’m still surprised when I hear the correct pronunciation of some common word. Being a native Finnish speaker really predisposes you into assuming you can just guess pronunciation from spelling and vice versa.
Educated ESL speakers (such as my supervisor, who’s worked in US) are said to have fewer spelling difficulties than an average native speaker. Maybe it’s just due to the high level of literacy, or maybe there’s less interference from the auditory memory of same words? Our pronunciation tends to be probably very often wonky, but apparently there’s no similar expectation of strict “correctness” in that regard.
@Alan
We have a vast number of those pairs, many of which have acquired subtle differences in connotation over the centuries. Many of the words we’ve stolen from non-Norman/Latin sources have been either narrowed down to a particular subset of the original meaning (salsa, harem) or genericized beyond the original meaning (farrago, oddly enough also harem).
@Lumipua
Oh, but that’s the joy of it! There isn’t one for spelling either! Native English
speakers write words down phonetically all the time! It drives me completely fucking berserk! But it’s uncouth to complain about it so I usually don’t anymore! Unfortunately for me, my native language is written English, and it’s like nails on a chalkboard in my brain! I hate it! Meaning no offense to everyone who can’t keep track of all the ways written English folds, bends, mutilates, and spindles the Roman alphabet. Not your job, style of thing. But I do so miss the days of copyediting of professionally published material.
@ Dali
There’s that thing of language as the archeology of the class system.
Like how you can tell who farmed the animals and who got to eat them by the different word for the animal and the food: cow/beef, sheep/mutton, pig/pork etc.
The animal is Anglo-Saxon; they being the workers who raised them; and the food is Norman French, they being the aristocracy who were the consumers.
Where will we go if this is the end?
@Alan:
Or chicken/poultry. (And ‘pullet’ is still used in English, if as a rather more specific term than chicken.)
I actually used to shop at a game store called ‘Imperiums to Order’ which was run by James Davis Nicoll, and consider him a friend; he would later become famous in part for replying to a comment about the ‘purity’ of the English language with:
Considering that my grade 11 English teacher had previously led us through some of the history of the English language in the form of everybody who had conquered England and left bits of their language behind, I certainly understood that when I heard it.
(And I still say that I learned more about the English language in my German class than I did in my English class.)
English is the bastard child of the Germanic and Romance language families: longer words tend to come from French; shorter words tend to come from German/Danish. And in many cases we’ve kept the spelling from the original language even when it doesn’t make sense anymore due to vowel drift. In some cases we’ve kept the original spelling when even the original language doesn’t use it anymore, and in at least one case we’ve borrowed the word again with the new spelling and a slightly different meaning.
In particular, ‘hostel’ and ‘hotel’ are literally the same word from French, hôtel; the circumflex over the ô indicates the pronunciation shift due to the silent letter ‘s’ that has since been dropped. The more recent borrowing happened after French was considered the high class, courtly language, and thus the more recent borrowing has a much higher-class meaning than the older borrowing, despite them still literally being the same word.
Why yes, I can rant on this subject for a while. There’s probably a reason why James and I got along well when we both lived in the Kitchener-Waterloo area.
@Dalillama:
Yes, there are a whole bunch of mistakes out there where you can tell that the person writing has only ever heard a word spoken and has never seen it written down before.
I’ve probably brought this up before, but one of the older and no-longer-updated blogs on the CBC website was called ‘Words: Woe and Wonder’, and the writer did an article called “MNOPSPTEICHE? RELAX FOR A SPELL” in which he goes over some of the history, and the fact that many of the weirder spellings in English are caused by keeping the spelling from the original language. (mnopspteiche is an alternate spelling for ‘mistake’ in the same way that fish could be spelled as ghoti.) He also notes that regularizing English spelling to match pronunciation would then just raise other problems: which dialect’s pronunciation (not to mention the political issues that would bring up)? Do we really want to lose the extra information we get from the different spellings of homophones?
@Jenora
I would say the same for my Spanish class. It’s much easier to understand concepts like parts of speech, tenses, etc when it’s not in one’s first language.
@Surplus
I doubt it’s the end since David is still active on Twitter.
@ jenora
When I want to be even more pretentious than usual, I like to distinguish between provenance and provenience.
It’s like your example though, in that they are really the same word in the original. They do however now have separate meanings in English; that have been adopted internationally.
Which must be confusing and/or annoying to any actual French speakers.
@Contrapangloss
Thanks for that! It is long, I’ll agree, but it’s very useful. One of my friends found me a better website for me to use, and he’s going to post it on Reddit once it’s done, so that may help a little. But I’ll definitely use your “wall” of text. Thank you
Update on my husband being home. We’re at the ER, He dislocated my jaw…. again
@Jenora: James is a great guy.
And not forgetting John Scalzi’s late cat Ghlaghghee.
@Dalillama: Salsa means 2 different yet very specific things in English. The food item term is much more restricted than in Spanish, of course — though I notice it’s broadened out a bit since salsa started outselling ketchup (another restricted sauce term) in the US.
I learned more formal grammar in 2 years of Latin class than in all my years of English. Partly because Classic Latin is nothing BUT grammar. Hoo-boy. It improved my vocabulary of more-formal words that were adopted into English since the Renaissance. Which came in handy on the SAT.
@Elaine: he must be one great kisser!
@ Elaine:
Oh dear
@Jenora:
I may have said this here before— I concluded a few years ago that written English is actually a system of ideograms that pretends to be phonetic.
@GSS ex-noob:
And not forgetting John Scalzi’s late cat Ghlaghghee.
So would Ghlaghghee have been a Silent Cat? (Combining the C from Tucson, the A from Caesar, and the T from merlot—and yes, thus chop-shopping together O’odham, Latin, and French.)
Salsa means 2 different yet very specific things in English. The food item term is much more restricted than in Spanish, of course — though I notice it’s broadened out a bit since salsa started outselling ketchup (another restricted sauce term) in the US.
Kimchi is another such word; in Korean culinary terminology, the word is a blanket term for a diverse variety of fermented vegetables; to native-English-speaking Americans who didn’t grow up with Korean cooking, it specifically means baechu kimchi: Napa cabbage pickled with hot chili pepper.
(And, now that I think of it, even “pickle” is a case of Separation by a Common Language: American English defines the noun as brined cucumbers unless otherwise specified—the Branston Pickle served me in a British-run cafe was not even remotely what I’d been anticipating.)
@Moon Custafer:
I may have said this here before— I concluded a few years ago that written English is actually a system of ideograms that pretends to be phonetic.
That’s how a local public transit driver of my acquaintance wound up approaching it in the process of teaching himself to read—memorizing each individual word, in every possible font, as if it were a Hanzi or hieroglyph; he’s severely dyslexic and attended what seems to have been a pipeline-to-prison-or-the-military school. His incentive to learn turned out to be Dungeons and Dragons—never dismiss the epiphanic power of junk media!
Well, my area is seeing a recent uptick in COVID cases while still no sign of vaccinations for the general public; I still have no life; that volcano stubbornly refuses to erupt; and now some jackass somewhere has snatched tonight’s MacGyver episode right out from under me somehow. I went to tune it in and all I got was some celebrity gossip nonsense. The info button on my remote says MacGyver. It also says the episode is new. But that’s not what’s actually on the screen. The feed has somehow been substituted with something else, and this same substitution has happened on all three channels I get that are listed as airing MacGyver tonight. So I am missing a new episode of this show for no logical reason that I can discern. There’s nothing in my recent choices that I can think of where this kick to my face would be a legitimate consequence, in particular.
Not that there can be anything legitimate about promising one thing and giving something else. This is fraud, as surely as if I purchased a box labeled “8 TB Seagate external hard drive” at Staples for several hundred bucks, brought it home, and found a flaming bag of dog poo inside instead of the promised hardware.
Anyone here have any legal advice? If possible, I’d like to pursue some sort of action against these chucklefucks. I suppose that would mean Bell Canada, since they’re the ones proximately taking my money, and they’re also the ones proximately claiming that MacGyver is what’s airing on those three channels tonight. Whether they’re the ones who substituted the dog poo or not, they’re the ones who perpetrated a deception while taking someone’s money, so presumably they’re the ones holding the bag, legally speaking.
The ideal outcome, I suppose, would be that I sue them in small claims court, they don’t bother showing up, and I win a default judgment in some small, but useful amount. Say, several hundred dollars.
Although the ideal remedy in a truly just world would be for them to be legally compelled to uncancel the original, Richard Dean Anderson version.
@Surplus
You can’t sue the TV company for not airing the show you want. TV stations can pre-empt whatever they want whenever they want, it’s not something actionable.
Not for “not airing the show I want”, for “not airing the show THEY SAY RIGHT THERE ON THE SCREEN THEY ARE AIRING”. There is a difference. It’s the difference between the Staples being sold out of 8 TB hard drives on the occasion that I go there to get one, and the Staples selling me a box labeled “8 TB hard drive” that contains something else (especially, something of much lesser value). The first is an inconvenience. The second is fraud.
@Surplus – Not about the TV show, but you might be interested in the IPA (international phonetic language). This link has audio for how things sound: https://www.ipachart.com/
Many of the sounds are represented by the letters they usually do in English, e.g. /v/ and /b/ and so on. But /j/ is the consonant Y, probably because the letter makes this sound in a lot of other European languages. Anyway, I find it fun.
@Elaine – Yay at your husband being back but sorry about your jaw!
My news: my boyfriend is going to Oxford for two years!! It’s great for him since he got accepted for a post-doc there – and apparently they’ve got a really cool library – but I’m still kind of overwhelmed (I got the news a week and a half ago).
My plan for the next 2 years is to finish another undergrad degree, linguistics this time. I’ve got some classes done as an independent student already so hopefully I can finish it by 2023. So I have some plans; it’s not like I’m flailing around helplessly. But I’ll miss him and I don’t know when it’ll be possible to visit him (or how affordable it’ll be). He’s leaving for England in September.
Also, if there was an actual, legitimate preemption, I wouldn’t be missing the first run of an episode right now. According to the information box on the screen, I AM missing the first run of an episode right now. They didn’t simply reschedule it; they obliterated it as it was airing as if for something both unexpected and urgent like a tornado warning, except instead it’s some talking heads nattering interminably about some celebrity or another.
Needless to say, that doesn’t seem to me to be either unexpected (so they have no excuse for simply overwriting the feed in mid-broadcast instead of doing an ordinary, planned-in-advance preemption, which would show up on the schedule in place of MacGyver, and which would reschedule the MacGyver to a later time instead of simply erasing it entirely) or urgent (so there was no need for a preemption of any kind, and they could have saved it for the next news broadcast, if brief enough, or else the next time a block of celebrity gossip was scheduled to air).
I don’t see people have a problem with English spelling.
From this great book! (If you ever have a kid; then you will be receiving this from me)
Also, what is the point in having hundreds of channels, three of which were scheduled to air MacGyver, and then replacing it at the literal last minute on all three instead of just one? We have the bandwidth and other technical capability to simply air both, and still have a channel out of those three free to air yet another thing, and instead they all just slavishly copy each other?
The way the whole system works is asinine, and the amount of money they charge for this broken and poorly-managed system is an insult. With a thousand channels there should be a thousand different things airing at any given time, and an hour later another thousand different things. The way this bandwidth is currently being used is a giant waste.
@ epitome
Yey; Congrats to your blokey!
Oh fuck yeah.