What easy lives women have today, at least in the fantasies of Men Going Their Own Way.
For example, did you know that every woman in the world has at least six men at her beck and call, collectively providing her with all the sex, money and adoration she could possibly ever need? Let’s let this dude in the MGTOW subreddit explain it all for us:
So let’s break down the math. She’s got Chad and Tyrone handling the, er, gut rearrangement duties. That’s two. She’s got the friendzoned guy and at least two orbiting simps. That’s three more, for a total of five. And then she’s got the sugar daddy she’ll eventually marry, for six.
Damn. Seems like she’d need a spreadsheet to keep track of all of these guys. I had no idea being a woman was so complicated, time-management-wise.
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@Francis : odds are that he don’t believe in the existence of homosexuals, and include them in orbiters because clearly deep down they want to have sex with womens.
After all, MGTOW are also almost alway deeply homophobics (and quite often antisemite and racist, too). Homosexuals do not fit in their worldviews so they don’t exist.
@Ohlmann
Indeed, incels have already made statements to that effect, and given the convergence of MGTOWs and incels that has been more and more open lately, it seems likely they do believe this.
It’s “Teachers’ day” in China today. I believe we have a few educators here; so you may like this. I love the imagery.
Anybody who’s been involved in fanfic (or transformative works) communities knows that you can get… ‘replicative fading’ when people write fanfic that’s more based on the other fanfic they’ve read than on the original canon. Heck, you get people who write fanfic of something without ever having actually seen the original. Needless to say, this can lead to lots of errors, and a tendency towards ‘Flanderization’ of the characters to their extremes, to use the TVTropes term.
I bring this up because I get the feeling that these folks are engaged in multiple-generation ‘fanfic’ of real relationships, with all the accumulated errors that implies. They’ve read so many biased stories they think they know everything despite little actual experience with the original and the shared consensus moving in the opposite direction because they’re all locked into this thinking now and any attempt to correct their misapprehensions is an assault on their shared community identity.
@Alan:
Speaking as someone whose mother was a kindergarten teacher and whose grandfather was a high school teacher, I certainly like that image.
@Jenora
Neat, and apt. I’d not heard of it in fanfic terms, though it’s a familiar enough concept from genetics (the copy of a copy of a copy issue)
@naglefar
I read orbiters and simps as our friends.
and don’t be silly we know lesbians don’t exist all women sleep with Chad on a regular basis
… except that with fanfic, at least some instances turn out shiny while these guys only ever transmute their sources into dreck :-s
@Jenora Feuer
As someone who has not only been a part of fan fiction communities, but has also admittedly written his own fanfiction works: your thesis is honestly rather accurate. And from my experience this also applies to “recursive Fanfics”: which are basically fanfiction of another fanfic writers fanfiction of an existing series.Though in my experience the recursive fanfiction a writer made of my fanfiction work pretty much was an outright plagiarized version of my fanfic that was worse written, flanderized the characters that I tried to keep in character, was much more hap hazard in execution in comparison to my story, too fast in pacing, had a flashback in flashback (which is just lazy writing) and just had some plot ideas that made no sense for the setting.
I guess in my case: my fanfic was at least carefully and competently written and tried to keep setting and characters close to cannon and as a result had some people try and “follow the leader” and just outright plagiarize my story because I wrote it in a genre and style (under a Crossover no less) that actually seemed to work and other people wanted to copy. Inspired Imitation may be the sincerest form of flattery, but their is nothing flattering about theft: much less theft carried out with shoddy incompetence.
Reality, they’ve never experienced it, have they?
@Jenny, there’s a joke like that in the US too, also from the 80s or 90s. I remember it as a greeting card. It went something like “every woman needs 6 animals in her life,” and they were things like “a tiger in her bed” and “a jackass to pay for it all.” And this ties in with @jenora’s theory about fanfic! These guys are basing their relationship theories on TV shows and greeting cards and jokes, which only bear a passing resemblance to reality.