By David Futrelle
It’s not just the incels who are utterly obsessed with the semen of other men. Nope. So are the (allegedly) voluntarily celibate guys who call themselves Men Going Their Own Way.
Despite their constant claims to no longer care for or about women, MGTOWs spend an inordinate amount of their time obsessing about all the sex they imagine these allegedly unimportant women are having with men, especially if it involves certain rather ordinary sexual activities that MGTOWs seem to have collectively decided are both super fun and deeply degenerate — like anal sex, or, perhaps even worse, blowjobs that involve the ingestion of a couple of milliliters of semen.
MGTOWs — like a lot of other misogynistic men who are deeply jealous of every man having more sex than them — have redefined the word “cuckold” to include pretty much any man who has sex with a woman who has ever had sex before. And this cuckery goes double, apparently, if the woman has ever had butt sex or swallowed.
It’s even worse if a guy actually goes and marries one of these degenerate anal and/or oral sex havers.
Take it away, irate guy in the MGTOW subreddit:
These guys — like many others in the manosphere — have thoroughly convinced themselves that any woman who has ever been with more than one man will be forever incapable of true love. Those slutty, slutty grapes are apparently very sour!
Dude, I’m pretty sure these women are more than capable of love. They’re just unable to love you. Because, seriously, who on earth could?
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I’m just curious as the the backstory for that roundabout. It looks like it was originally just horses; but presumably one broke.
But that just boggles the mind as to why they had a spare chicken handy.
Unless of course it’s a deliberate allusion to this:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ride_a_cock_horse_to_Banbury_Cross
@ Alan Robertshaw:
You realize you’ve made me spend ten minutes googling for historic carousel figures? Haven’t found that particular cock, but according to CarouselHistory.com, roosters were carved by the Dentzel or Herschell-Spillman workshops. From the position of the legs I’d guess the one above is a Herschell-Spillman, although it seems to be holding its tail slightly higher than the other examples I found. Where’d you find the original image?
off-topic, content warning for police violence
So… now we have “killed for policing while black”
Yeah, that “good guy with a gun” shit works really well, huh? (/s)
Cat Mara: “You must be this broad to ride the cock carousel”
And incel board games tend to have simple rules: The moment the game board gets laid, everyone else in the room is declared a loser. It’s a game that appeals to a very niche audience.
OT news update: Stan Lee has died.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/stan-lee-dead-marvel-comics-real-life-superhero-was-95-721450
D:
;_;
Now who’s going to do the cool Marvel cameos in the MCU?
I heard he filmed a bunch more cameos in advance. Guess we’ll find out over the next few years if that’s true.
This just in: a massive 3-way brawl over who exactly invented what has broken out in the afterlife bar between the shades of Lee, Kirby and Ditko. Kirby was heard to exclaim, “I’ve been waiting decades for this, ya bum!” before a colossal eruption of Kirby Krackle annihilated everything in sight…
@ mooncustafer
If it’s any consolation you’ve now got me reading that history site when I’m meant to be working! 🙂
There’s a fairground museum somewhere on the way to Dorset. Whenever I’m driving back that way I always try to visit, but I can never find it. One day though!
Oh, and I’d seen that pic before, so I just googled ‘Huge cock + attraction’. It turned up on page 9.
@Cat Mara
Why do I see Walt Disney sitting on the side table with a shit-eating grin, knowing well and good that all their works belong to him now anyways?
So they want blowjobs but only from women who’ve never given a blowjob before. I guess it’s no wonder they seem to equally hate women and sex.
“Men Going Their Own Way” needs to be updated to “Men Going Out Of Their Way To Try And Make Their Sex Life Worse”. Bit of a mouthful tho.
I don’t get how it’s supposed to work – men can and should sleep around as much as possible but women must be virginal, chaste and monogamous. How does that work out mathematically? If all women really did stay virigns until they got married these same idiots would be complaining “those evil women are withholding sex and trying to trick us into marriage!!!”
The math works even less when you consider that not only do these guys think men should sleep around while women remain chase, but the women the men sleep should all look like lingerie models. There just aren’t enough 18 year old HB10 virgins out there to give every man what he’s (in their minds) entitled to. And there never will be, no matter how patriarchal society gets.
In my last D&D campaign as a DM, I included a realm in which, for backstory reasons, nine women were born for every man.
As a result, all their men were required to stay at home, following the least dangerous professions, while the women ran the government and military. Polygyny was the rule – a corporation of high ranking women got to share a single husband. They sometimes had culture shock when traveling outside, where men were everywhere and even carried weapons.
speaking of cuckoldry and ted cruz,
@Lumipuna
Well, that’s the funniest thing I’m going to hear all day right there and it’s not even 9.45am. Thanks 🙂
Although after posting the AI pickup lines yesterday I did get lost down a neural net hole – and yesterday’s funniest thing was the neural net trying to understand my little pony names http://aiweirdness.com/post/164560090962/new-my-little-ponies-designed-by-neural-network
That’s the whole point, though. Sex and dating are supposed to be a zero-sum game, where you know that you’re winning only because other people are miserable. This applies to the women, who should always be miserable because men should always win, and also to the men, because how are you supposed to feel superior to everyone else if EVERYONE can have a barely-legal sex slave?
These guys aren’t complaining about the system that supposedly privileges alpha males over all others. They’re complaining that they aren’t one of those alpha males, even though they rightfully should be by their reckoning. (And also that the system doesn’t make women miserable enough, but that’s a constant thing you can expect from these sorts.)
They love the system, they just don’t like their place in it. So they’ve constructed a crude effigy of the system, where women are always to blame, alphas are really secretly cucks, appearances correlate directly with morality, and a few millimeters of missing cheekbone entitles them to burn the world and murder people. And they believe this system is more real than the actual system.
The idea that women can only pair bond with the first man they sleep with is absurd. The first time is often awkward and weird, and you’re likely to be at an age where your brain hasn’t fully finished developing yet and your identity is still forming. What’s attractive in your late teens isn’t going to be the same thing at age 30 (which these guys are always crowing about – “Look who’s suddenly more interested in a reliable beta provider than exciting bad-boy Chad!”, as if that isn’t a normal life arc for everyone except ephebephiles). But I suppose that’s the point for these guys. They want to control women’s minds as well as their bodies.
A close friend of mine spent her late teens and early twenties hooking up with a quite ridiculous succession of wildly unsuitable and often extremely temporary boyfriends – in fact, they generally fitted the Chad stereotype to a tee – before settling down circa 27 with someone who couldn’t have been more suitable for her: nearly half a lifetime later, they’re still very much together with, as far as I’m aware, not even the slightest serious wobble. I’m guessing that he wasn’t too fussed about her past either, and he certainly knew about it because we all moved in the same social circles.
That time of life is when you’re supposed to experiment, because otherwise how will you know what you really want? This is anecdata, obviously, but when I think about friends/relatives who got married in their teens/early twenties and those who got married in their late twenties onwards, the divorce rate was much higher in the first group and almost zero in the second. This may well not be a coincidence.
Which is what’s so fundamentally absurd about the way that incels/MGTOWs impose a deadline of 25 or younger, after which the prospect of any kind of satisfying relationship becomes inconceivable. It seems to me that in the real world, for really glaringly obvious reasons, that the chances of being able to maintain a long-term relationship increase significantly after that point, not least because you’ll most likely have grown up enough to be able to ditch all the bullshit that you absorbed (most likely unconsciously) in your teens.
@Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Thinking back to when it was in my late teens, if you told me that who I’d be attracted to would change with time, I’d probably say “Yeah, of course.” But then I didn’t think about myself five, ten, fifteen years down the line all that often.
That said, I don’t think we should overlook the power of a pair of extremely influential forces for these guys that really don’t get analyzed enough: social media and pornography. Both of these have the effect of keeping people in the eternal “now”. With social media (and YouTube in particular), it’s always the latest update, the latest clickbait, whatever is at the top of your wall or Twitter stream that binds us to the current moment and keeps the demands for hot takes and instant responses alive. There’s no incentive to consider the arc of the future or to merely observe, draw patterns and plan out a response after considering every aspect. That serves to keep a lot of these guys angry at the latest bugaboo that they think is keeping them from “getting laid.” It’s all “You’re angry now and here’s the next SJW to be angry at.”
Porn is the other aspect. Not so much as in concept or execution but how it’s consumed and marketed. For a lot of these guys, the sheer number of performers means that no matter what their tastes are, there’s hundreds if not thousands of interchangeable perpetually-youthful women willing to perform more and more extreme acts for their consumption. And if this kind of thing makes up the vast majority of their interactions with women, no wonder they think that there’s some kind of “wall” that divides the “nubile teens” from the “MILFs”.
A lot of these guys’ ideology can be examined through the lens of porn. Personally, I think that connection deserves closer examination.
NO DOUBT!! Porn is not a documentary, which I think a lot of men forget.
Interestingly (if embarrassingly), when I google “porn” on my home computer, the first suggested phrase is “porn addiction” 🙁 🙁
I’m a recovering addict, and I do a fair amount of addiction research, which is likely what drives the Google algorithm. Socially speaking, I’m an old, bald, broke white man who reads paleoanthropology as a hobby….
Here’s some results of a “Pornhub” study of their members’ viewing choices (2017);
Content warning: discussion of pornography (no porn, just statistics… sorry….)
The link is to an Esquire article, which is somewhat less NSFW
and, um… ok, I KNOW what a “fidget spinner” is… but as the top trending search on a porn site…. No, I don’t wanna know!
#repealrule34
@weirwoodtreehugger
Probably be fewer, in fact. Those harems won’t stock ’emselves.
That’s OK though, because like poverty stricken people who still vote for tax cuts for millionaires because one day they just know they’ll get rich, the good folk on the mgtow subreddit know that when the revolution comes they’ll come out on top and be rewarded with their rightful HB10Vs and all the loser beta cucks will get nothing and know that they’ve lost at manning and masturbate themselves to sleep whilst crying, etc.
I’m pretty certain that’s how it works.
Also, now I write down HB10V it sounds like some kind of unpleasant virus, but maybe that’s just me.
@Weird Eddie
I’ve, uh, taken one for the team, and searched for you. It was passingly funny, but not much more clever than “lol, you could put a fidget spinner on that”.
@ Pie:
thanx… I think….
actually, that sounds like another “unusual sexual experiment gone wrong…” that someone in an E.R. is explaining to a doctor….
Pie,
Instead of temporarily embarrassed millionaires, they’re temporarily embarrassed chads.
@Weird (and tired of trumplings) Eddie Yeah, I saw that. 🙁