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The Daily Beast takes on the creepy Republican politician who founded the Red Pill subreddit

Robert Fisher: Red Pill Republican

So here’s an interesting little scoop: According to the Daily Beast, the long-anonymous creator of the terrible, horrible, no good, very bad Red Pill subreddit is, IRL, a Republican politician — specifically, New Hampshire 9th district state representative Robert Fisher, known better in Red Pill circles as Pk_atheist.

“It’s possible that now, four-and-a-half years after Red Pill’s founding, Fisher may regret his creation,” Bonnie Bacarisse drily notes.

When reached for comment by phone, Fisher denied participation in the Red Pill forum, claiming not to know what The Red Pill was. Though he did say he had heard of the men’s rights movement, he said he hadn’t heard of PUA. “What is a pickup artist?” he asked.

This denial aside, the extensively researched Daily Beast story makes a pretty convincing case that Fisher and Pk_atheist are one and the same. And there’s this:

Within hours of contacting Rep. Fisher, and after delivering by email a summary of his apparent connections to The Red Pill kingpin, his two primary Reddit usernames had been wiped, and four blogs connected to him were deleted or made private. He has not returned additional requests for comment.

While Fisher wasn’t an elected official when he (allegedly) founded The Red Pill in 2012, he’s been a Republican state rep since 2014. He also seems to be a cool dude with super-awesome friends.

Online, Fisher describes himself as an “attractive businessman” who owns a “small empire.” According to his Facebook, he is the COO of Same Day Computer, which operates two locations in New Hampshire. He was also the sole member of his indie-electronic band, The Five Nines, which may or may not still be active. … 

Fisher purchased the computer-repair franchise from its founder, failed New Hampshire state senate candidate Joshua Youssef, who, according to the Concord Monitor, violated state election law by publishing a deceptive blog to “make it appear that his ex-wife’s attorney had endorsed his candidacy.”

It turns out that the alleged Red Pill founder has been allegedly saying many, many terrible things about women online over the five years since the founding of The Red Pill — and even before.

I suspect many of his constituents, especially the human females amongst them, will be thrilled to learn of his Red Pill philosophy. Indeed, Bacarisse notes, “Fisher’s past comments on a host of Reddit forums are arguably far more disturbing” than some of the more notorious comments of his less-than-enlightened Republican dude politicians in New Hampshire.

He blasted women for their “sub-par intelligence.” He said that women’s personalities are “lackluster and boring, serving little purpose in day to day life.” And Fisher once commented, “It is literally the [female] body that makes enduring these things worth it.”

But there’s more! (There’s always more.) In assorted posts, he expressed his great appreciation for “slut shaming” and his unhappiness with female autonomy.

“Marriage, and yes, female oppression, slut shaming, religion, these were all a means to control hypergamy … ” Fisher wrote on The Red Pill in November 2012.

“To give women autonomy is to take away the very thing that made marriage a realistic institution…  what I dislike is the general attitude that somehow we owe [women] something for sex … ” Fisher wrote on his blog Dating American, in 2012—just weeks before establishing The Red Pill.

It may not come as a giant shock to learn that Fisher has not been completely thrilled with his dating life.

He complained that girls were ghosting on him and standing him up. He aired grievances about the character of women: They were uninteresting, immature, unintelligent, lacked depth, and were entitled. He bemoaned that dating was easier for women. He felt it was unjust that women get a free ride, believing “a pair of boobs grants [them] equal footing with somebody bringing intelligence or a personality.” 

Like a lot of his Red Pill brethren, Fisher is positively obsessed with alleged false rape accusations, and claimed that one of his ex-girlfriends once threatened to falsely accuse him.

“If you’re unattractive, feminism tells us, you’re likely a rapist,”he wrote in one Red Pill post.”[M]en are tip-toeing to make sure they don’t accidentally become rapists themselves.”

And it only gets creepier from here.

In 2008, writing under the username FredFredrickson, Fisher posited that the notion that “rape is bad” was not an absolute truth. He wrote, “I’m going to say it—Rape isn’t an absolute bad, because the rapist I think probably likes it a lot. I think he’d say it’s quite good, really.”

Though he stated he “doesn’t advocate breaking the law,” Fisher said online in 2012 that a 40-year-old man asking to see the breasts of a 15-year-old wasn’t creepy. Instead, he said it was “evolutionarily advantageous and perfectly natural.”

Fisher’s Red Pill beliefs aren’t just something he’s shared anonymously online:

As a candidate for state representative, Fisher proposed bringing concerns about the supposed plague of false rape accusations into the statehouse. Hosting a forum on Reddit under the username RobertFisherforNH, Fisher sought ideas to prevent “innocent people [from] receiving jail time.” He argued that because in rape cases “police err on the side of caution,” and show a high level of support for victims, the system was “susceptible to abuse” by women.

Given his noxious views, you may be pleased to note that Fisher is not what you’d call an influential politician, even on the state level. Partly because he seems to be a very lazy one.

“At his request, Fisher serves on no committees in the New Hampshire House,” Bacarisse notes. “Out of the 114 record votes so far during the 2017 session, Fisher has cast votes in half.”

Hopefully, after news of all this gets to his constituents, Fisher will go from being an ineffectual politician to being an ineffectual ex-politician.

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IBH Ardipithecus
IBH Ardipithecus
5 years ago

@David Henderson

Perhaps you shouldn’t go round grabbing your wife, and making her feel unsafe then.

Jolene
Jolene
5 years ago

Why is 15 ok? Does it make evolutionary sense?

Not really. Teen moms can suffer from pregnancy complications as well:

http://www.webmd.com/baby/teen-pregnancy-medical-risks-and-realities

The average marriage age was around 21 at the turn of the century. It wasn’t 13 or 16 or whatever they’d like to claim to justify their “barely legal” fetish.

https://www.infoplease.com/us/marital-status/median-age-first-marriage-1890-2010

Dave Henderson
Dave Henderson
5 years ago

Tree hugger,

You need to see the forest and not the trees.

Anyone can collect articles online and link them as “facts”.

There will ALWAYS be the cases you point out. ALWAYS. Even if you were god and could make all the rules and give women total and complete power and domination on this earth with the death sentence for any man who made a women “feel bad” things like this articles you post would STILL happen.

But the facts are, in America and now Western Europe, Men have it worse than women in divorce, custody matters and law.

We have a feminist legal system that gives women sacrosanct status to accuse.

If the law were fair – every single women with a false accusation would be punished mandatory. Women would think twice before accusing a man they just men of rape, because they felt guilty the next morning with smeared makeup struggling into their jeans. They would think twice before ALL accusations. And you would see more equality in the legal system.

But you don’t want equality. You don’t want equality …

Dave Henderson
Dave Henderson
5 years ago

Brony

In the majority of criminal and civil family court cases women face no repercussions for false accusations and perjury. None. Crystal Gail Mangum (duke lacrosse team) is an obvious example.

She made up the entire thing. The players were tried and sentenced by the media before 1 day in court.

It has been a long standing belief by the legal system that allowing women to go unpunished is necessary to allow victims to come forward. Otherwise, victims may fear retaliation from the legal system if they feel they have a weak case.

Gloria Albright was instrumental in achieving this environment.

Dave Henderson
Dave Henderson
5 years ago

I guess I don’t understand what you people want.

It feels like malicious discontent. Like you just hate men. Hate Christian values etc.

What are your solutions? A matriarchy? More feminism? Open Borders? Hate speech legislation? More child support? Higher taxes? More socail programs?

I don’t get it. These positions have ruined America and are destroying Western civilization. Is that what you want? Just destroy everything? And replace it with what?

I don’t GET the people on this website. I don’t understand what you want as a “group”. I’m not even sure if you understand what you want as a group.

And by the way, the functionality of this website sucks donkey balls. There is no spell check. No easy way to individually respond to certain users. The guy who runs the MGTOW website mgtow.com has it over on this website by leaps and bounds.

I’m just saying.

Dave Henderson
Dave Henderson
5 years ago

IBH Ardipithecus

You cannot be serious..

Turtle
Turtle
5 years ago

The only two cases of ‘false rape’ I’ve ever heard locally both involved women who didn’t accuse an actual person but rather made up a fictional attacker. In both cases prosecutions if the women were diverted to mental health assessments which hopefully led to better outcomes.

Conversely it’s not at all unusual to read locally of rapists escaping justice one way or another. Justice truly is the exception rather than the rule

A. Noyd
A. Noyd
5 years ago

This is a tangent, but have any of you ever noticed how so many TVs crime dramas have an episode where the vocally “feminist” main/regular character doubts a rape victim? The “feminist” character claims she* always believes the victims, but there’s just something about this one? And then it turns out not to be a false accusation after all—often with the victim getting killed because nobody** believed her in time?

………
*Of course she’s a she.
**Besides a few sympathetic dudes, perhaps.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

Sorry to go OT on y’all like this, but this story has me very upset.

https://www.rt.com/usa/386128-terrill-thomas-dehydration-milwaukee/

There are two takeaways:

The first is that crazy people are routinely mistreated by the criminal justice system. This man was in a mental health crisis, and his behavior in jail was treated punitively rather than therapeutically when it became disruptive to jail operations.

The second is that our criminal justice system is massively fucked up. I’m pretty sure that if you or I left a disabled person in our care to die of dehydration, we would be charged with murder, and yet here the system isn’t even quite sure that a crime was committed at all! Why are law enforcement officers shielded so thoroughly from accountability? Why are they allowed to kill defenseless people with impunity?

dslucia
dslucia
5 years ago

@Troubelle:

You should just save local copies of your work in text documents.

@Trolly Trollerson:

You not GETTING the people here is not the fault of the people here, who have spent far more time and effort than they need in an attempt to get you to understand. Your failure to understand is because you refuse, much like every Manospherian, to accept or even acknowledge that your positions may be WRONG.

Pie
Pie
5 years ago

@Dave Henderson

I guess I don’t understand what you people want.

Nah, you just don’t care.

I don’t get it. These positions have ruined America and are destroying Western civilization. Is that what you want? Just destroy everything? And replace it with what?

In what way is america ruined? Please give concrete examples, and associate them with the specific issues you have, like “child support” (paid by ~1-2% of the population, values around ~0.2% of the GDP).

And by the way, the functionality of this website sucks donkey balls. There is no spell check. No easy way to individually respond to certain users.

You should donate some money to the owner, to fund some improvements.

The guy who runs the MGTOW website mgtow.com has it over on this website by leaps and bounds.

Technically, maybe. Too bad about the company he keeps, eg?

Viscaria the Cheese Hog
Viscaria the Cheese Hog
5 years ago

@PoM, some of the more infuriating passages from your link:

During his seven days without water at the jail, Thomas never requested medical attention.

Assistant District Attorney Kurt Benkley said Monday that Thomas’ bipolar disorder, a condition the jail staff knew about, according to the Sentinel, rendered him “unable to tell people about his basic needs” while in jail.

“If someone requests, ‘Can I get my water turned on?’ and I find out their water is off, I turn it on,” said one officer, Decorie Smith.

NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THEY NEED LIFE-GIVING WATER. YOU SHOULDN’T DEPRIVE THEM OF IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

@Dave Henderson
People here have been quite explicit. They want evidence. You showed up saying things as if someone should believe what you were saying was true based on your comments alone. I’m a man and I simply won’t take the word of someone who comes in expressing feelings about people and things and can’t point at those things in specific terms. For example,

What are your solutions? A matriarchy? More feminism? Open Borders? Hate speech legislation? More child support? Higher taxes? More socail programs?

Who said what where? These are your characterizations of what others are saying. No one can follow this to a source outside of your self. It’s rumor-mongering and gossip.

Fuck that.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Dave Henderson

There is no spell check.

I’m no computer expert but aren’t spell-checkers usually at the user end of the equation rather than the website? I’m typing this on an iPad and it’s checking as I go along. Same on my phone.

No easy way to individually respond to certain users.

The convention here is to use “@(username)”. I must confess I prefer that to nested responses as you don’t have to keep going up and down the thread to keep up with new posts; especially when the thread spills over several pages. I believe there is a way of responding to specific posts. I’ve seen people do that. But like I say, not a fan. YMMV of course.

Viscaria the Cheese Hog
Viscaria the Cheese Hog
5 years ago

I strongly prefer chronological comments, which is why I will mandate their use in the matriarchy that I am trying to establish. Muahahahaha.

Chie Satonaka
Chie Satonaka
5 years ago

My ex-SIL “blew her family up.” She decided she never wanted to get married or have kids and bailed on them, leaving my brother the custodial parent. And you know what? The state is going after HER for support money, garnishing HER wages, dragging HER back to court and threatening HER with jail time every time she refuses to get a job or pay her half of the kids expenses. Because the state doesn’t CARE whether it’s the mom or the dad who’s the deadbeat. Its only incentive is to make sure both parents are doing what they’re supposed to be doing, because that social safety net that Mr. Henderson is bemoaning above is actually quite overburdened and there are a lot of impoverished kids out there.

LindsayIrene, Rioting Werebonobo
LindsayIrene, Rioting Werebonobo
5 years ago

Camille Paglia re-emerging from the depths to let us all know that she’s the coolest cool girl of all
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Kevin
Kevin
5 years ago

@Dave Henderson
Why are you ranting about America ? One of your posts implies you are a Brit (CPS = Crown Prosecution Service here.) By the way, your poor literacy is embarrassing. I’m with Alan Robertshaw here.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

We decided as a group during The Great WHTM Upgrade that we didn’t want nested comments. If that makes MRAs sad, then so much the better.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THEY NEED LIFE-GIVING WATER. YOU SHOULDN’T DEPRIVE THEM OF IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I KNOW RIGHT? Apparently turning off the water is a punitive measure whenever someone makes a cell flood. How is that an appropriate punishment????????? Even for the neurotypical, how is that okay??????????????

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
5 years ago

CPS on this side of the pond can stand for Child Protective Services.

Tizio
Tizio
5 years ago

@Dave Henderson

The vast majority of alimony goes to the wives because they make less money – often because they’re the spouse who stays at home and takes care of the house & kids. In cases where the husband is the one who makes less money, the husband gets the alimony.
The very fact that there’s husbands who get alimony from their ex-wives disproves your claim that the law automatically assigns alimony to wives.

About child support: not only the fact that some fathers get child custody disproves your claim that the law automatically assign child custody to the mothers, but the reason why mothers tend to get child custody much more often than fathers are:
1) Mothers tend to be the “primary caregiver” (the parent who stays the most time taking care of the child, and thus presumably knows best their needs), and family courts have seen that assigning child custody to said primary caregiver tends to be the most beneficial option for the child;
2) In the vast majority (90%) of divorces, child custody is pacifically decided by the couple. In cases where the couple has to fight in court over who gets the custody, fathers get it at LEAST half the time.
http://handaxe.tumblr.com/post/89677588375/but-women-get-unfair-advantages-in-custody

Also: do you have any statistic about the incidence of false rape accusations? My stats say that it’s 6% of all rape cases reported to the police, and 2% of all rape cases overall (false auto theft accusations are at 2,6% of all auto theft cases).
Make sure to not mix up “false accusation” (Accuser knew that Person did not commit the crime, but Accuser accused Person anyway) and “unfounded accusation” (Accuser accused Person, but the investigation didn’t produce enough proof to validate a trial against Person).

Kevin
Kevin
5 years ago

@VP
Thanks for the heads – up.
I still find his literacy standard embarrassing, and I’m not even American.

Pie
Pie
5 years ago

I had assumed that usage of “grand” to mean “1000 units of currency” was a britishism (or at least a londonism that’s spread across the south, if not the rest of the country). I’ve not come across it in the vernacular of other english speaking countries, but maybe the people I’ve spoken to don’t consume a lot of british media?

Maybe the good mr. henderson is like everyone’s favourite femra andrea hardie; not even remotely american, but sure gets worked up about how they imagine life is in america.

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