
Bill Frezza, the overgrown, overtan frat man who warned the frat boys of America about the gravest threat to their very existence — drunk chicks — may have lost his gig at Forbes, but he’s found a new fanbase amongst the MRAs of Reddit, who’ve hoisted him aloft as the latest martyr to femifascism. In a couple of highly upvoted threads in the Men’s Rights subreddit, the regulars celebrated his heroism and good sense.
Let’s just take a look at some of the wisdom they deposited in the threads.
We might as well start with the most-upvoted comment of all, from the legendary JohnTheOther himself, who is evidently well aware of the threat that drunk chicks pose to his very life:
![johntheother 197 points 1 day ago It's not just that women are being infantalized, and exempted from personal responsibility. If men recognize the threat to their job, their fraternity, or life that this culturally-supported female irresponsibility creates - they are not allowed to speak about it or act in self preservation. Men are supposed to carry on as if there is no danger. A woman might feel slightly uncomfortable if she's treated as a threat, so men should just shut the hell up, and weather the hazard in compliant silence. Thus, the Forbes article had to go offline. permalink save report give gold reply [–]trudatness 70 points 1 day ago This is really fucked up censorship. permalink save parent report give gold reply [–]johntheother 34 points 1 day ago At the risk of being piled-on with thought-stopping godwin's law accusations - it's fascism. permalink save parent report give gold reply [–]JayBopara 24 points 20 hours ago Godwin be damned. They are called the feminazi for a reason.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/jto.png?resize=495%2C545&ssl=1)
Camdaniel encouraged his brothers to stick together to defend themselves against this insidious threat:

Stay strong, brothers!
Chrispy3690, meanwhile, warned against the greatest unrecognized danger from drunk chicks: their big mouths.
![Chrispy3690 43 points 23 hours ago I think this is my main take-away. Why aren't drunk obnoxious women seen as destructive as men? Is it because they cause less harm? I doubt it. Do they break everything in your living room? Maybe not. Do they make other people miserable? Absolutely. This is something I've been trying to pin down for a while: Why is the destruction that women cause; emotional, mental, psychic trauma, any less significant? I'd take a beating from any guy over the worst slanderizing and humiliation most women can dish out any day. permalink save parent report give gold reply [–]downztiger 34 points 22 hours ago Get your ass beat by a drunk dude, that will ruin your night. Get accused of rape by a female and that shit will ruin the rest of your life. permalink save parent report give gold reply [–]Chrispy3690 12 points 21 hours ago I'm not even just talking about something like a false allegation. You ever had a woman come after your character? It's partly because she's a woman that it's so destructive (this is something I can concede might be helped by changing our views of women) but, regardless, they can be utterly brutal. Women don't fight or argue to wound. They do it to humiliate. You argue with a woman in a public/social setting... sheesh... I'd rather let her hit me.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/chrisp.png?resize=500%2C573&ssl=1)
In the world of MRAs, evidently, it’s no big deal when men call women “cunts” and threaten them — hey, they’re just words! But when it’s women doing the talking, suddenly words are worse than fists.
Anonlymouse, meanwhile, threw up his hands in despair, because clearly there is no way that frats can possibly protect themselves from the insidious danger of drunk chicks. Because they are so terribly, tyranically sexy.
![anonlymouse 23 points 1 day ago The logical solution is for a frat to kick out every girl who gets drunk... which of course will never happen. It's identifying a problem with no viable solution in the short term. permalink save parent report give gold reply [–]FasKap 13 points 1 day ago Why not? They can go where someone else is responsible if they want to get over served and be around other people who are as well. Frats should reclaim the Gentlemen club label from strip joints if every sloshed slut continues to be a threat to their members. permalink save parent report give gold reply [–]ihavecandygetinmyvan 22 points 1 day ago Yeah like that's ever gonna happen. These are thirsty 18-22 year olds you're talking about. They will literally do and say anything to get laid at any cost and girls eat that shit up. I've literally seen girls act like royalty, with a swarm of dudes around them at their beck and call, all acting suuuper interested in what she has to say, hoping they'll be the one to get with her that night. The desperation is very real, especially in the younger frat and general party scene.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/anonly.png?resize=491%2C538&ssl=1)
Men literally forced to act as though they are interested in what a woman has to say. Is there any clearer evidence of the tyranny of drunk chick sexiness?
Profhelios, meanwhile, highlighted one hidden danger that no one has the courage to address: drunken giantesses.

I guess Bill Frezza really is the hero that MRAs deserve.


Welcome to the mammotheers, tonks! Let me scrounge up a Welcome Package for you!
I love volunteering. I also love having money for groceries. Volunteering does not get me groceries. Hence, I have a job-job, which I am currently skipping out on to take a GRE this weekend. But, I get to go home! I’m in my parents house, and I cuddled the pups for an hour, and one of them’s still curled up with me, and my kitty still remembers me and purred a little before stalking off to see if mom was going to feed him yet (no!)…
Sorry, tanget. Sleepy and puppies that I haven’t seen since May is a good combo.
@Mnemosyne,
No need to be sorry at all – it’s why the MRM has been coined ‘the abuser’s lobby’. In discussions of rape and lack of consent, MRA’s tend to: minimise and/or deny it’s harm by making light of such abuse and not taking concerns about it seriously; blame-shift towards the victim (if the literal or hypothetical victim is a woman, of course); and refuse to accept that rapists (if they are men) should take any responsibility for their own behaviour.
Men’s righsters also tend to delight in gaslighting by promoting the idea that false rape allegations are a cultural and social epidemic and are putting all men in fear. Which again serves to direct attention away from the very real problem of rape.
@Tinyorc
Yes. And heaven forbid if the man you dared to avoid was a NiceGuy(â„¢).
I’m going to have to agree with everyone else on this thread. Helping drunk people get home and helping them stay out of possibly compromising situations are good things to do. It’s sad that these guys can’t see that they should be helping drunk party guests so that the guests don’t harm themselves or get into possibly dangerous situations. They are doing or recommending the right things, but for very selfish and sometimes unrealistic reasons.
@contrapangloss
Good luck on the GRE this weekend! I’m so glad I only had to do that once. After I took mine, my brain was so fried that on the way home I tried to use my garage door opener as a turn signal. In my defense, I was almost home at the time and was clearly eager to get there.
10knives – blockquotes are made like this: [blockquote] text text text [/blockquote] but with angle brackets instead of square ones. If you’re using Firefox, they’ve a cool Text Formatting Toolbar add-on that lets you do it all with buttons instead of writing the code. 🙂
Err, I probably should’ve mentioned before that I changed my username recently from “saintnick86” to “NickNameNick” – I’ve been working on a new personal blog and decided to switch it up. Sorry ’bout that…
Oh, I know why you did it.
And I’m betting the rest of the story is an ad hoc creation to frame you as the hero.
I [don’t] wonder what the story would sound like if he had succeeded at “getting her back upstairs”.
I love how Chrispy3690 is teetering on the brink of an epiphany there.
“My fragile masculinity can handle manly things, like punching and and being yelled at by other manly men, but when a mere woman yells at me, and I can’t even hit her back to reestablish my manliness, then it’s almost like I’m a woman too!”
Terrible.
Locally, a fraternity held a party where they placed a color-coded “x” on the women as they entered the house, to grade them. The “hot” girls received roofies with their drinks.
With Frezza and his ilk, this is almost beyond “rape apologist” at this point and all the way into “pro-rape.”
http://www.newsweek.com/fraternity-suspended-alleged-date-rape-plot-272072
Chie –
That story is fucking horrible. Really terrible. I hate this world so so so much.
If anyone wants tiny, beautiful birdy brain bleach:
http://www.boredpanda.com/hummingbird-bird-photography/
close ups of hummingbirds!
Chie: Agreed. I saw that on Raw Story before I saw the Frat Apology article.
I’ll go with the Wikipedia definition of Cultural Marxism.
In other words, Cultural Marxists say that social problems aren’t just a matter of the rich using economic power to oppress the poor. They also see non-economic oppression, in the form of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.
As to why they say “Cultural Marxists” instead of “People who aren’t bigots”? Well, I vaguely remember the “Marxists” from my Ancient History classes in school. Apparently they used to be a threat to the United States until some guy named Ronald Reagan defeated them in the 1940’s or maybe the 1980’s, I forget which. I know the final battle was in Berlin. Anyway, there are some really old people who still remember the Marxists. I think the Gamergate people are trying to tie their opponents to Marxists in order to get support from old people. I’ve heard that Fox News does the same thing.
@Chaos-Engineer
Brilliant.
These shitbags really have no idea how privileged they are, to the point that they’ve developed no empathy for others and have less emotional maturity than a three year old.
The invisible backpack of privilege is strong with them, and yet they only whine louder and harder for that unearned privilege.
Let’s quote here the evils that “cultural Marxism” supposedly led to:
*reads*
Has this been heavily moderated or do even the MRA trolls have nothing to say in support of these douchebros?
God as “She?” Do they not realize that people worshipped goddesses long before the past century? The Abrahamic religions aren’t the only religions that ever existed.
If only…
You’re asking wingnuts to have memory beyond the 80’s?
(even what they claim to be the 50’s doesn’t resemble the real thing)
@vaiyt
Wait, acknowledging that men have emotions, are capable of feeling fear and sadness and sometimes need comfort and support too is an evil feminist Marxist plot now too?
Damn those feminists, trying to treat men like human beings and stuff.
cloudiah
There’s no way I would have believed that image was anything but parody if you hadn’t said otherwise.
What is it about cultural reactionaries and terrible graphics?
{blockquote}Wait, acknowledging that men have emotions, are capable of feeling fear and sadness and sometimes need comfort and support too is an evil feminist Marxist plot now too?{blockquote}
Also, that means that a man can’t dominate, or worse be dominated by, feeemmmaaallleeesss
Trying to blockquote in my previous post but obviously it didn’t work. Sorry.
RE: katz
It sounds like someone who’s interested in the culture of communist countries, in which case it might actually be talking about me.
Yeah. Like, my understanding of exactly what Marxism is (as differentiated from socialism and communism) is really foggy. Adding ‘cultural’ to it just sounds… weird. Isn’t Marxism a cultural theory to begin with? Does ‘cultural marxism’ imply there’s a philosophy outside the workers part, so it’s focused on things NOT involving work? I am so confused!
RE: zoon echon logon
Evil European communist Jews have undertaken a conspiracy to subvert Decent American Values and corrupt academia by talking about racism and stuff instead of giving people MBAs like God intended.
…oooookay.
RE: Chaos-Engineer
In other words, Cultural Marxists say that social problems aren’t just a matter of the rich using economic power to oppress the poor. They also see non-economic oppression, in the form of racism, sexism, homophobia, etc.
…and this is some incredibly radical proposition or something? This is so weird to me.
RE: WWTH
The Abrahamic religions aren’t the only religions that ever existed.
Even the Abrahamic religions had female aspects to gods. Check out the Shekinah!
The Frankfurt School’s ability to influence things before it even existed is really amazing.