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Frats are under seige by drunken women, warns overgrown, overtan frat man on Forbes.com

Frat boys know how to handle their liquor
Frat boys know how to handle their liquor

 

We learned earlier today that evil females are trying to destroy one of the few remaining safe spaces for men in our culture – professional football. Now we learn that evil drunk females have their blurry sights set on another man space: College fraternities.

The brave soul bringing this crucial information to the men of the world? The impressively tan frat man Bill Frezza, who presented his case in a post on Forbes.com with the subtle title

Drunk Female Guests Are The Gravest Threat To Fraternities

Alas, the Femborg Collective must have caught wind of this little breach in security. The piece was quickly taken down, and Frezza was relieved of his duties as a contributor to Forbes. (You can still see the Google cache version here though.)

So what did brother Frezza argue? Basically, that drunken women are actively infiltrating American frats – and threatening to bring them down by being drunk and female. While frat brothers are carefully policed by well-meaning elders like Frezza – the head of the alumni house corporation for his MIT fraternity – the ladies are uncontrolled and uncontrollable:

Fraternity alumni boards, working with chapter officers, employ a variety of policies designed to guide and police member behavior. Our own risk management manual exceeds 22 pages. The number of rules and procedures that have to be followed to run a party nowadays would astound anyone over 40. We take the rules very seriously, so much so that brothers who flout these policies can, and will, be asked to move out. But we have very little control over women who walk in the door carrying enough pre-gaming booze in their bellies to render them unconscious before the night is through.

(Emphasis mine.)

Damn those drunk gals, all liquored-up on booze that our frat brothers didn’t provide, honest, come on we all know those bitches were drunk when they got here right fellas let’s keep our goddamn stories straight.

Yes, boozed up males also show up at parties, sometimes mobs of them disturbing the peace on the front steps. But few are allowed in, especially if they are strangers. … [I]t is … irresponsible women that the brothers must be trained to identify and protect against, because all it takes is one to bring an entire fraternity system down.

So how exactly do these terrible gals do their damage? A variety of devious ways.

Alcohol poisoning due to overconsumption before, during, or after an event. Death or grievous injury as a result of falling down the stairs or off a balcony. Death or grievous injury as a result of a pedestrian or traffic accident as the young lady weaves her way home.

That’s right. Some of these gals are apparently willing to give up their own lives in order to make frats look bad.

Oh, but some use an even more devious weapon:

False accusation of rape months after the fact triggered by regrets over a drunken hook-up, or anger over a failed relationship. And false 911 calls accusing our members of gang rape during a party in progress.

It’s gotten so bad that Frezza feels compelled to tell young frat brothers that maybe it’s not such a good idea to have sex with drunken women, or even to bring them to your room for a game of Jenga.

Never, ever take a drunk female guest to your bedroom – even if you have a signed contract indicating sexual consent. Based on new standards being promulgated on campus, all consent is null and void the minute a woman becomes intoxicated – even if she is your fiancée.

The solution? Lower the drinking age to 18. That’ll show ’em!

No, really.

Unless and until the drinking age is reduced to 18, students relearn how to pace themselves while drinking, and individuals are held responsible for the consequences of their own behavior, rather than blaming the institutions that house and educate them, the only defense is extreme vigilance.

This is how you can tell that Frezza really did go to MIT. Because this is STEM logic at its finest.

Oh, I noticed this at the end of his piece:

Bill Frezza is the President of The Beta Foundation, the house corporation for the Chi Phi fraternity at MIT.

Ha ha, what a beta. He’s so beta he’s the president of Betas.

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Kakanian
Kakanian
7 years ago

Yeah, the whole article turned wierd immediately when he wrote that they had no problem turning away drunk guys, and that drunk guys were a minor inconvenience, BUT THE WIMMMENZZZZ DYING ALL OVER OUR LAWN ARE CONSPIRING TO BRING THE HOUSE DOWN.

David
David
7 years ago

Anyone who believes that lowering the drinking age to 18 will necessarily lead to more responsible alcohol use has never spent time among 18-year-old English students. But that kind of libertarian presumption about deregulation has a lot of cache even among liberals, so it’s hard to convince people to actually question it.

saphy
saphy
7 years ago

@Shaun Day

I hadn’t even heard about that! Christ, it’s awful.

I found a good article about it, and the media portrayal of the women:

http://www.gradientlair.com/post/97987445583/angelia-magnum-tjhisha-ball-black-sex-worker-murdered

daintydougal
7 years ago

Maybe he has a point with the lowering the drinking age? 21 seems so arbitrary, what else legally changes at 21?
Another English person here confused by the gender segregation and strange greek cults.

tinyorc
7 years ago

It’s just so bizarre the way that he strips these “drunk girls” of all social and cultural context. He makes them sound like random spawns in a videogame. Like “oh, three Level 8 Drunk Girls just spawned in the front yard, what a hassle, they’re much more difficult to repel than Roving Bands of Rival Frat Boys.”

ej
ej
7 years ago

This is disturbing on so many levels, especially after reading about the incident at UW-Milwaukee this week. I’m just glad no one was hurt as a result. It really makes me cringe because the students at the party had been marked. The women taken to the hospital had red X’s on their hands, while the man had a black X. It was obviously planned. It’s absolutely disgusting.

(Possible trigger warning for alleged use of date rape drugs)
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/uw-milwaukee-fraternity-probed-over-drugs-slipped-into-party-drinks-b99354529z1-275664681.html

Sarah
Sarah
7 years ago

Nodding to all the comments about “the problem is not that we may be raping people but that we’ll look bad if they file an (obviously false!) accusation.” Then contradicting the previous statement by admitting that since if the women are so drunk they may get killed or injured, they’re obviously too drunk to consent, so any sex taking place is rape (but that doesn’t seem to bother him hugely).

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
7 years ago

I love how he divides the world into males, females, and Frat Brothers. It’s as if Chi Phi, home of the last humans, is under siege from ravening hordes of insensible zombies, and for some mysterious reason only the males can be repelled at the gates.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
7 years ago

Eh, they’re just worried that the unwanted males will steal some of the date rape drugs they’d intended to use on the feeemales.

Two things – rape is illegal (and morally wrong, but I know this variety of frat bro doesn’t give a shit about that), and if you’re drugging women’s drinks or getting them so drunk they can’t remember their own names that’s a pretty clear admission that even you know that your personality is so repugnant that no woman would consent to being in the same room as you if she was sober. Be better people – this should be easy, since in your cases the only way to go is up.

Shaun Day
Shaun Day
7 years ago

Saphy, I hadn’t heard about it until last night, and that’s a big part of the problem. The other big part of the problem is that apparently even when there are no apparent police to protect from charges stemming from murdering POC victims must still be demonised/abused/vilified by the media. It’s an abysmal set of constants, and it needs to be addressed in a space where we’re not being harassed by trolls.

genderneutrallanguage
7 years ago

So, GNL, want to explain how “man raping woman” is equivalent to “man has tree fall on him”? Because you’re both dehumanising women and talking as if men’s choice to rape somehow makes them the victims.

Because YOU are making it about rape. Everything and anything that could ever possibly happen is RAPE. Falling down stairs, that’s rape. Falling off a balcony, that’s rape. Drinking so much that you get alcohol poisoning, that’s rape. Starting a fist fight, yep rape again. What was the advice that supports rape? Don’t take drunk girls to your room, because you know NOT HAVING SEX….that’s rape.

When you cut out all the fluff The Article did have a point that feminists should not like. That point is we are and should continue to treat women like small children or inanimate objects not responsible for their own actions. But no feminists are making this point. Feminists are all talking about how we should infatalize women MORE because “Rape Culture” The point of outrage should be that women are not being literally thrown into the street the way men are for their drunken bad behaviors. Equality is equality, not benefits for women.

genderneutrallanguage
7 years ago
Reply to  Kim

No, but it’s a false equivalency. The equivalent would be “drunk people injuring themselves on the premises is a threat to our house, therefore we will take measures to make sure we don’t let drunk people in, or serve alcohol to people who are drunk”.

Fair point but would taking measures to make sure we don’t let drunk people in or serve alcohol to people that are drunk by necessity include people that are female? What is the problem with saying we are doing this well with dudes, now we need to do this better when it comes to chicks.

bluecatbabe
bluecatbabe
7 years ago

I read this and wondered where the women he blames are getting these slow-release alcohol capsules which seemingly enable them to walk through the frat house door of their own volition and perfectly sober while “smuggling” enough alcohol inside them to render them incapably drunk all at once the instant they’re inside.

Because whenever I’ve made myself incapably drunk (last time was 1988 at the Lewes Bonfire Night and I woke up in a bush) it has definitely been a continuum.

Or – perish the thought – they are letting in drunk women on purpose.

Or, letting in sober women who soon after arrival ingest substances that render them incapable.

No, can’t be, can it?

It must be slow-release booze capsules.

ikanreed
ikanreed
7 years ago

“False accusations of rape are sooooooooooooo common(and caused by regret)”
–A “journalist”

It’s always the stereotype, and never the reality of false rape accusations. They are A: really fucking uncommon. and B: tend to have all sorts of characteristics that differ from the far more common acquaintance rape real world problem.

And this guy, rather than researching anything, just puts it out as a given. What the hell is wrong with Forbes, that they’d publish this?

sparky
sparky
7 years ago

When you cut out all the fluff The Article did have a point that feminists should not like. That point is we are and should continue to treat women like small children or inanimate objects not responsible for their own actions. But no feminists are making this point. Feminists are all talking about how we should infatalize women MORE because “Rape Culture” The point of outrage should be that women are not being literally thrown into the street the way men are for their drunken bad behaviors. Equality is equality, not benefits for women.

GNL, you are literally arguing that women should be responsible for rapes that men commited against them. Fuck off.

And how is not holding men responsible for their behavior not infantalizing to men? Again, fuck off.

Yeesh, this is what I wake up to.

sparky
sparky
7 years ago

Fair point but would taking measures to make sure we don’t let drunk people in or serve alcohol to people that are drunk by necessity include people that are female? What is the problem with saying we are doing this well with dudes, now we need to do this better when it comes to chicks.

“Chicks?” Why are there baby chickens in the MIT frat house?

GNl, that is NOT what the author of the article is talking about. If it were just, hey, we shouldn’t let drunk people into the frat party regardless of their sex, it would actually be good idea. But that’s not what Frezza did. He blamed drunk women for having the audacity to cause problems for the fraternity by getting alcohol poisoning or dying on their property and maliciously filing false rape reports. And this death and harm and rape of women is bad, not because women dying or being hurt or raped is bad, but because it makes the fraternity look bad.

Again, fuck off.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
7 years ago

We really do need a moderation challenge for the dumbass if he’s going to advocate victim blaming this openly.

Also! Since at least he provided us with “trees!” this time, a musical offering for everyone else to help soothe the pain resulting from head hitting hard surface.

Luzbelitx
7 years ago

Fuck off, GNL.

Shut up, Woody.

saphy
saphy
7 years ago

Woody is probably lonely by now in the Land of Eternal Moderation, we should send GNL to keep him company.

sparky
sparky
7 years ago

Thirsting the vote to put GNL on moderation. I e-mailed David and the mods.

ralmcg
ralmcg
7 years ago

Some people are even discussing having men’s only universities in order to solve the rape problem. The discussion is at http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/2hb1yx/in_light_of_the_university_rape_hysteria_wouldnt/. I don’t think it would solve it since there would still be a problem of possible rape charges made against the men’s only university students by non-student women and girls.

saphy
saphy
7 years ago

@ralmcg

…and also because that wouldn’t solve the problem of rapists existing at all.

It isn’t actually a solution, in even the vaguest way.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
7 years ago

I like the idea of sending someone who thinks trees are the equivalent of people to hang out with Woody.

alysonmiers
7 years ago

Reblogged this on The Monster's Ink and commented:
Here’s the thing, Bill Frezza: your precious frat bros WANT those drunken females around. They want those females to be present, and in many cases they actively pressure/manipulate/coerce those women to drink in excess. Don’t fucking expect us to believe those women were not enthusiastically invited into those frat houses, or that they deliberately get as hammered as possible over the brothers’ protests. Oh, and you’re an asshole in every possible way. People like you are the reason why fraternities have such a bad reputation. Go on, keep telling those poor misunderstood guys that the problem with encouraging excessive alcohol consumption is false rape allegations rather than alcohol poisoning or drunk driving.

cassandrakitty
cassandrakitty
7 years ago

Just FYI, ralmcg, not sure how many people actually want multiple extra doses of horrifying MRA logic unfiltered by David, especially when the person posting them doesn’t always seem to realize how horrible they are.

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