
The regulars at PUAhate.com – we’ve met them before — are a strange and bitter bunch. Most seem to be self-loathing so-called “incels” who blame their lack of romantic and sexual success on their average or below-average looks. Rejecting the basic premise of the pickup artist crowd – that average guys can transform themselves into suave lotharios by mastering manipulative pickup formulas – the PUAhate regulars tend to be true believers in what they somewhat pretentiously call “looks theory,” the odd and obviously untrue notion that women only date men with “male model” looks.
As one PUAhater put it recently:
PUA makes you think that all your problems are because of your personality/behaviour – i.e. things you can control. So when you keep failing, it means that YOU are fucking up and doing things wrong
the reality is that many of us just lost the genetic lottery. we are ugly, the wrong race, the wrong height etc, and that fucked us up. there is NOTHING we can do about it
So, naturally, the PUAhaters spend a lot of their time jealous of tall, good-looking men for their supposed monopoly on the women of the world — whom they also hate.
But the strange thing is that the PUAhaters pretty much hate everyone else as well. They get angry when guys they consider ugly score “hot chicks.” They get angry when guys who are good-looking but not male models get attention from “really hot girls.” And so on, and so on, and so on.
Indeed, many of the regulars seem to walk around in a perpetual state of rage, angry at each and every man who’s managed to pair up with a woman, not to mention the women as well.
One regular recently described his “day from hell” to his comrades:
To start the day I saw a couple where it was an average White guy with an OBESE Asian girl. They were walking around acting like they were trying to prove shit. LMAO. I wanted to kick the guy in the fucking nuts for dating that landwhale. If you’re going to use the racial advantage, at least date a girl who is under 300lbs. Later I go to the gym and see the same tall guys I usually do. Even if I had a good face, how the fuck do you compete with guys who are fucking 6’4”?
Then at the gym there’s this good looking White guy there talking to this Asian dude about how Asian girls are easy and how they approach him. To make things worse after that these fucking frat douchebags come in with their girlfriends to show off . Then to cap off the day a girl I used to know from freshman year walks right past me without even saying anything. I used to fucking live next door to this bitch and now she doesn’t even say anything and acts like a pretentious cunt. She’s an Indian girl dating a White dude lmao. Days like today make you wonder why you even still try in the first place.
Of course, as I’ve mentioned before, most of those posting on PUAhate don’t actually seem to be ugly by anyone’s standards but their own, at least judging from the pictures of themselves they sometimes post to the site, which reveal them to be mostly average-looking guys, with some of the regulars even quite conventionally handsome.
But evidently they would rather believe that they have “lost the genetic lottery” rather than face a more obvious explanation for why the girls don’t like them: because they’re shallow, self-obsessed assholes who hate themselves and hate women and radiate their bitterness from every pore. (And some are even creepier than this, like this pedophile – sorry, ephebophile – who’s angry at me personally because unlike him I don’t chase after 15-year-olds. Link NSFW.)
The PUAhaters often talk about getting surgeries to “correct” their supposed genetic flaws. They would do far better to spend that money on therapy.
Why are you being met with hostility?
Because you’re being willfully ignorant and using that ignorance to support your argument.
chocolatemintlipwax – I can beat that! Counting from, oh, seventeen, I get 33 years.
I’m taking bets: What time will it be in Chicago when this thread reaches 1000?
The day I met my beau the first thing I noticed about him wasn’t his short stature (he was sitting down) or his receding hairline, it was the fact that he had the cheekiest smile I had ever seen. The second thing was his t-shirt printed with some artwork from one of my favourite record labels… and as I got to know him better the attraction only increased because I discovered he was beautiful inside and out. Physically he may not be a “10” by most people’s standards but to me he’s an 11, and his attitude is very far from ugly.
Does anyone else find all this talk of numbers-out-of-ten really creepy? Even calling my mister an “11” for argument’s sake feels a bit wrong.
cloudiah: 9:02
Yeah. I can’t bring myself to use the star system in OK Cupid.
The numbers thing is creepy and stupid.
“Because you’re being willfully ignorant and using that ignorance to support your argument.”
Well you might have to be a little clearer than that, what exactly about what I said was ignorant in your opinion?
…so…then use…that stuff to prevent hair loss. Is anyone telling you not to?
Also, guys can cover up flaws w/ make up and girls can try to prevent balding (yes less girls bald, but still, the comparison is weird. It’s not like balding is only for one gender, same w/ make up :/
Itsallaboutyouyouyou: Just here to JAQ off, I see.
Okay, now I’m really worried about why Mads has got a thing for drinking from the kitchen tap …
My bad, I told him not to.
Cuz I am an evil matriarchal pug.
I better get off here for the night. I owe Kittehs’ too many brewed drinks already.
Whoever guesses the correct time of the 1000th comment will win THIS FABULOUS PRIZE:
“…so…then use…that stuff to prevent hair loss. Is anyone telling you not to?
Also, guys can cover up flaws w/ make up and girls can try to prevent balding (yes less girls bald, but still, the comparison is weird. It’s not like balding is only for one gender, same w/ make up :/”
I will continue to follow the advice I read on preventing baldness. I was just surprised and slightly confused that someone felt that was a particular issue worth highlighting about PUAhate. Unfortunately because of attitudes within society I won’t also be wearing make up, I think it would have a detrimental effect on my dating life.
Oooh wasn’t that in one of Jon Pertwee’s stories?
That previous device has been described as follows: “…there is something weirdly compelling about a device that appears to get a boner while it cooks for you.”
Don’t blame makeup for your shortcomings.
@princess bonbon
Ah, I guess I missed that.
@itsallabout…
Well, you said covering up flaws, and it’s not that noticeable for that *shrugs*
The product almost seems interesting, but that’s an awful commercial. Really. Just for the “Oh dear, eggs stick to the pan.” I’d refuse to buy the product.
Does anyone else find all this talk of numbers-out-of-ten really creepy?
Yes. It also appears to be a ploy (IMHO) to get us to start comparing. I put it in the same catagory as “send me a picture”.
10:22
But I despise eggs, can I have one of these instead? I’m from Texas, I have no clue how to cook these things.
That’s a shame- if only there was some kind of movement fighting against the stereotyping of men and women and against putting them into fixed gender roles and dictating what kinds of behaviour and dress were appropriate for them both…
Someone describes the Third Doctor as a tall man “with a mighty nose.”
(Yeah, I said I was going, but it’s like Batman: When someone mentions Doctor Who on the Internet, I am there.)
You can either have the egg thing, or this other very necessary kitchen tool.
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