We hear again and again from the angry dudes of the Manosphere that women are status-seeking sluts, spending their twenties riding what has come to be known as the Alpha Asshole Cock Carousel and shutting out the hapless beta males who beg for their attention. Indeed, some Manosphere dudes are so convinced by this narrative that they devote their whole life to learning how to be (or at least how to pretend to be) the the Alphas males that the ladies allegedly prize so much.
Rookh Kshatriya on Anglobitch thinks these fellows – PUAs and “nice guys” alike — are all wrong about “Anglosphere” women. Far from preferring Alphas, he suggests, these women would rather hook up with smelly, butt-scratching losers. Literally. Here’s his, er, argument:
Because of the puritanical fictions that prevail in Anglo-American society, Anglo women have become impossible to please by rational means. … the bar has been set impossibly high. The outcome is either misandrist spinsterhood or, more often, what we see around us: a female obsession with the dregs of the male sex. …
Since no male is good enough for her, all men are flattened into an undifferentiated, priapic horde in the Anglo female’s mind. A king is a jack is a joker… a classical scholar at Yale is suddenly no better than a murderous baboon like Charles Manson. An illiterate tramp with a ring through his nose instantly acquires the same standing as an architect, physicist or surgeon.
Naturally, Kshatriya provides no actual evidence for these odd assertions, but in the wide world of misogyny that’s never a deterrent for a guy with a new dumb theory about the evils of women.
[T]his is what makes Game – so appealing to the logical male mind – so ineffective in the Anglosphere. Misandrist women cannot distinguish between Nobel Prize winners and tattooed psychopaths – all are men and thus worthless brutes in their entitled eyes. And so all the Gamers’ striving for ‘Alpha’ status is pointless – they might as well stick rings through their noses, grow some dreadlocks and slouch the streets scratching their butts. Indeed, as many North American commentators claim, their mating chances would probably improve if they did this. ‘Omega males’ doubtless confirm the Anglo female’s contempt for men in general. If she has to have a man, only the worst knave will do.
I’m pretty sure that I’ve seen “Anglo females” out strolling with men who are neither wearing dreadlocks nor sporting nose rings nor scratching their asses, but those sightings must be anomalies.
Kshatriya is convinced that social conservatives are equally wrong about the ladies:
Writers like Daniel Amneus consider female hypergamy to be the ‘glue’ that binds male consent to the social order. …. In the Anglosphere, however, rational female hypergamy has short-circuited due to our cultural bloc’s uniquely puritanical socio-moral conditions. While alphas and high betas trudge home to empty beds or divorce threats, tramps and mass-murderers wade through tons of female flesh without breaking sweat. And so the Anglosphere falls apart around our ears. Yet still David Futrelle exhorts us all to ‘respect women’ and be ‘nice’.
Woah, that was a bit of a surprise ending there.
But obviously I must be doing something terribly wrong to merit such a mention. I guess I’d better start growing out some white-boy dreads and thinking awful things about women.
I worked at a high school and had to go to a seminar on how NOT to molest the kids. It was weird and rather uncomfortable but I was not insulted. Good thing owlboy doesn’t work with minors. Oh the injustice he would be subjected to.
@Shaenon
“Because the men are already putting in the proper effort to be “on.” Anytime you pass a man in the street, he is smiling and skipping and tipping his hat, doing his darndest to charm everyone he meets. You never see a man who’s just walking along like he needs to get somewhere. Only lazy women do that.”
Didn’t you say feminists didn’t generalize about all men? It sure looks like you have, but so does everyone else here. I guess that makes everyone here a liar.
NWO, you keep proving over and over that you can’t read anything and form an understanding of it.
NWO: What, no response to me?
So you admit that you think 8 year olds are coming on to you, and that women should be slaves.
My SO, who’s probably the most accepting, tolerant person I’ve ever met, had to sit through a training seminar about how not to discriminate against people. He thought it was fun, actually.
The wires up Travolta’s nose were a breathing apparatus thingie, so the Psychlos, could breathe on Earth. I’ve only seen this cinematic abomination once, but… so bad it was absolutely unforgettable.
When I was in the Army we had annual classes on how to not violate the Geneva Conventions, how to not harass our fellows (the language was gender neutral and the examples included women harassing men; as an aside the only person I know who was ever investigated for sexual harassment was female), Intelligence Oversight (i.e. how to no violate the privacy of US citizens), and firearms safety.
The oppression.
Neither you, nor captainbathrobe, nor any of the other handful who point out how ridiculous it is to complain that sexual-harassment training is tantamount to being accused of being a rapist.
@Kendra: To be fair, I don’t think there’s any good way to deliver lines like that.
The sad thing, re Battlefield Earth wasn’t the script, nor he sets, nor the pathetic direction, it was listening to Travolta explain how wonderful it was because of how great a storyteller Hubbard was.
Sad, what cultish devotion will do.
NWO, when you’re too angry to detect even the most blatant sarcasm, it’s time to get off the internet. Go get out in the world. Go for a walk and pet the neighbor’s dogs and talk to them about the weather. Please.
Fun fact – I actually tried to read Dianetics once (I was in an airport and bored). I initially thought it was satire, then realized it wasn’t meant to be and was very confused as to why anyone would take it seriously since I’d initially thought that the satire was a bit much. It wasn’t until years later that I heard about Scientology, at which point I remembered the book and was completely baffled as to how the whole thing got to be so big. If you ever happen to see the book, check it out – it’s ridiculous.
See, this is why the comment about the illiterate nose-ring wearer is so funny. I know a few people with nose rings–I actually work with one on my research project (we met today to talk about cortical thickness measurements). He’s very literate. But MRAs? Ummm… in general, they tend to have issues with both writing coherently and reading comprehension. I mean, technically they’re literate, but that’s a very low bar.
A copy of Dianetics was donated to our library’s used bookstore once. I was volunteering there with my grandmother, came across the book, and gaped at it until she asked what I was reading. When I explained, she took it from me and dropped it in the trash.
Which actually makes me wonder if anyone has ever published a book satirizing self-help books. It would be hilarious to sneak one into the new age section of bookstores and see how over the top it would have to get before customers figured out what was up.
This is actually an MO of Pell’s that lets you figure out who he is early on. He’ll write something with atrocious logic and completely jacked-up punctuation, and when anyone comments on it, he says something about “you low-class females who can only comment on the unimportant things.”
Confession: Sometimes I feel widgy about laughing about our trolls because I think some of them are honest-to-goodness suffering from untreated psychosis.
Ooh, my partner had a good one – his department had to attend diversity training last year. His department, at the time, happened to consist of a Jewish guy, a black woman, a gay Latino man, and a disabled Muslim woman. They all thought being trained in diversity was pretty hilarious under the circumstances. Strangely, none of them threw whiny tantrums about the process, but instead acted like freaking grownups, sat through their two hours of diversity training, and got on with their lives. One has to wonder why NWO (who, to the best of my knowledge, isn’t even attending the University of Montana in the first place) can’t manage this.
@lauralot – your grandmother rocks! 🙂
How could NWO have not recognised that as sarcasm? Does he live in the Plato’s Heaven dedicated to inspiring musicals or something?
Inurashii – any sympathy I had for the trolls went out the window long since. All the things they advocate (no need to list them again) make them ineligible, so to speak, and those things are not part and parcel of being mentally ill.
@CassandraSays: I remember seeing a parody self-help book in the humor section of a book store once. The title was “How to Hate Yourself” or something along those lines.
At my University, I have actually represented both male and female employees accused of sexual harassment by students. The actual process bears exactly no resemblance to the process that exists in Owly’s head. Just, you know, in case anyone is interested in a more reality-based view of things…
@CassandraSays
Regular self-help books already do a fine job parodying themselves.
But imagine if you took it up a few notches more. How far would you have to go before people realized it was a joke?
(I’m seriously tempted to try this on my mother in law, devoted follower of all things new age and self-help.)
Cloudiah – does anything real, anywhere, resemble what’s in Owly’s head?