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US Army Brig. General charged with rape. Who’s to blame? According to The Spearhead, it’s women.

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A Brigadier General in the US Army has been charged with rape. Well, actually, Brig. General Jeffrey Sinclair has been charged with a veritable laundry list of offenses, as set forth in an Army press  release, among them

forcible sodomy, wrongful sexual conduct, attempted violation of an order, violations of regulations by wrongfully engaging in inappropriate relationships and misusing a government travel charge card, violating general orders by possessing alcohol and pornography while deployed, maltreatment of subordinates, filing fraudulent claims, engaging in conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman and engaging in conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline, or of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.

While details are still sketchy, the charges apparently involve misconduct with several female subordinates.

Over on The Spearhead, W.F. Price bravely takes on the real villain here: women. Apparently their mere presence in the Armed Forces is enough to provoke male soldiers and generals alike to rape them and, while they’re at it, to buy booze and porn, mistreat their subordinates and rack up unauthorized purchases on government issued charge cards.  In a post with the title “How’s that Women in the Military Thing Going Now?” Price gets right to the heart of the matter:

I suspect that the more combat-oriented environment an environment is in the military, the more likely these problems with women are to come about. For one thing, fighting men are more passionate by nature, and then there’s the fact that these men also turn women on more.

Yes, because when male soldiers rape female soldiers, the problem lies with woman in uniform getting “turned on” by men in uniform.

A forward base in hostile territory is not likely to have the same atmosphere as an assignment stateside. The sense of danger actually tends to make people more sexually charged, or so I’ve heard from those who survived battles and sieges on the Eastern Front in WWII, where female-operated AA batteries behind the front lines became de-facto brothels.

Of course, male soldiers are also known to rape civilian women, so by Price’s logic women should neither serve in the military, nor not serve in the military. In times of war, they should just do all us dudes a favor and cease to exist at all.

If not, well, women just need to face up to the danger of “hanky panky” that their mere existence creates:

[O]ur personnel are serving in a remote Muslim country with no access to local females to speak of, and things are bound to happen. As to whether Sinclair “forced” anything on anybody, we don’t know at this point, and it seems unlikely, but it isn’t surprising at all that some forbidden hanky-panky may have occurred.

At this point, virtually all we know about the alleged crimes here is contained in that laundry list of charges I posted above. Yet someone Price is able to deduce that Sinclair is likely to be innocent here. Evidently Price is convinced that anyone who is a “real combat general” and who has “earned a number of awards related to combat arms and parachuting” is someone who is to be implicitly trusted.

In the comments, the Spearhead regulars offer their own unique takes on the issues of women in the military.

Keyster seems to dream of a day when women can not only be kicked out of the military but also out of pretty much everything else as well, except presumably the kitchen:

It’s not safe to work or serve with women.

The potential for trouble is way too high.

Once they invaded the workplace the last vestige of male only space was the military. Now even this is no longer true. I don’t know where men can go and work with other men without female interference anymore. Even if you own your own business, the government forces you to hire them…and invest in all manner of special female accommodations, like breast pumping stations and tampon dispensors.

Ironically the safest “male only” space is a Gay Bar. And even then curious women wander in to meddle and cause disruption.

Numnut drops some biotruths on us all:

Appears women are very horny once a month and will have sex with the most aggressive male available to them at that time.This re-enforces the “thinking with the vagina” theme that a women herself espoused.

Now that the lawz have given wymyn free pass to act out their base animals nature,no man is safe from the Whiplash regret post-sex.(ref to OT)

No doubt these milfem cursors were ovulating and thinking with the gash when they asked to be screwed.

The proper thing for the law to do is recognize this animal instinct and either regulate wymyns behaviors of legalize male sexuality again.

Women want it both ways,a rough man for sex,and prison for rough men.

Jean Valjean hopes that this case will help to expose women for being the filthy sluts they really are:

The question on my mind is will this man fight the charges and reveal the sexual nature of many women in the military or will he go meekly to his fate?

A commenter with the highly ironic name Reality offers up this bit of secondhand shitthatneverhappened.txt.

There was a guy who had been in the military who told me that in actual warfare when the bombs start dropping & the gunfire starts coming at them in an actual combat situation, women just throw down their guns and start running screaming like they would do any other situation.

We’re doomed. All so we can pretend ‘women are just the same as women’ [sic] – that’s more important to all these idiots that run this country & half the idiot population than the security of the country. It’s that way in any situation in life- this political correctness & diversity shit is becomes more important than success, life or death- you name it. In that sense it’s like drugs or alcohol addiction – you throw away your whole life for this one stupid, trivial thing.

Equality: Stupid and Trivial.

I learn new things every time I read The Spearhead.

For some actual facts on the epidemic of rape in the military see:

Leon Panetta: Military’s handling of rape is an “outrage.”

Naomi Wolf: A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military

Victims say military condones rape

Rape in the Military: America’s Dirty Little Secret

New military rape lawsuit filed

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KathleenB
KathleenB
9 years ago

cloudiah: Great minds!

inurashii
inurashii
9 years ago

Sorry, Meller, you’re too late. Otis already won the ‘human garbage of the thread’ award.

Myoo
Myoo
9 years ago

Oh hey Meller. Still being horrible? Yeah, I thought so, but then, when you blame someone for their own murder by an abusive ex, you can’t really sink much lower.

Ithiliana–February 12, 2012 @2:31pm

“graduate student “murdered” by ex-husband”

Take post cited above. Could woman who talks like that (over the ‘net) have such an unpleasant, unfeminine, and just plain horrid personality that she could say something that MAY provoke an unpleasant response from a nearby man who may already be troubled about something else. Look at all of the cases you read about where a murder or vicious assault or rape was committed by a man whose entire life was coming apart, and the very person—his wife–whom he was relying upon to keep what was left of his sanity was turning on him…

Did graduate student take her “how to handle men” or something like that from YOU?

I was explaining that a man who loved his nearest and dearest would do anything to avoid the spousal abuse so often cited on feminuttery websites and blogs like this, because it wouldn’t get him what he wanted! I would rather be kind, gentle, and loving to a woman than beat,rape, or kill her, and so would most men, for obvious reasons!

Gee, Ithiliana, for an intelligent woman, you sure have a lot of trouble understanding ordinary common sense, don’t you?

ozymandias42
9 years ago

Wait, wait, so if dudes have casual sex with ladies, they’ll want to rape them, but if dudes DON’T have sex, they’ll get so sexually frustrated they have to rape people.

Is there any plan where dudes don’t get an excuse to rape people?

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
9 years ago

Is there any plan where dudes don’t get an excuse to rape people?

In MRAland, the only plans are:

1) rape people, with no consequences up to and including people making you feel bad about it by calling it rape.

2) have everything given to them with no effort on their part, while maintaining the illusion that they did it all themselves with no help whatsoever, because they are manly men, and they deserve it, because they are nice.

3) have NO responsibility for anything, ever. Not for what they say, or do, or for taking care of their children, or for doing laundry, or for actively participating in any relationships they may have. None. All the responsibility is for the other people.

3) shut up and make me a sammich.

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
9 years ago

“Grade A ‘asshat'”? Speak for yourselves! Rape, domestc violence, and other misbehavior would be exceedingly unlikely in a society where women were cherished AS WOMEN, where they would be valued by their capacity to bring love, pleasure, and beauty into the home and into the world. Where they could be, not hated rivals or competitors, not bitter, man-hating feminists, and not gender-egalitarian loons, but people to be cherished and adored who sustain families and communities, secure much of the moral and spiritual upbringing of the up-and-coming generation of both sexes, and inspire their menfolk to ever greater achievements in creative, problem-solving, and intellectual abilities…

Do women(?) infesting the armed forces deserve any better? Why are there women “soldiers anyhow? Okay, there are far too many men soldiers in the world–or even in our wretched USSA type of fascism/corporatism/ kleptocracy–but certainly expanding this “opportunity” to the fair sex does nothing for the rest of us!

Look on the bright side–these women (speaking charitably) being “raped” or sexually harassed” are showing how tough, brutal and masculine they are, they are being (or at least imitating) the warrior creed that has so often degraded and brutalized men throughout history!

emilygoddess
9 years ago

a society where women were cherished AS WOMEN, where they would be valued by their capacity to bring love, pleasure, and beauty into the home and into the world. Where they could be, not hated rivals or competitors, not bitter, man-hating feminists, and not gender-egalitarian loons, but people to be cherished and adored who sustain families and communities, secure much of the moral and spiritual upbringing of the up-and-coming generation of both sexes, and inspire their menfolk to ever greater achievements in creative, problem-solving, and intellectual abilities…

Jesus, Meller, you’re aware that women are people, right? I see you using the word, but I also see you talking about women like they don’t have dreams and goals of their own, like all we’re here for is to help men.

Rape, domestc violence, and other misbehavior would be exceedingly unlikely

So you only cherish and adore women when they’re willing to settle for being cherished and adored – if they ask for more, ask to be given the chance to make their own achievements in creative, problem-solving, and intellectual abilities, they deserve to be hurt? The punishment doesn’t really fit the “crime” here. It seems more like you’re trying to justify your own desire to hurt women by convincing yourself we deserve it.

women(?)
these women (speaking charitably)

If they’re not women, what are they?

And why do you insist on resurrecting dead threads? Afraid that if you posted in an active one, there’d be too many people calling you on your shit?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Rape and domestic violence have happened in pretty much every society throughout history, including the ones where the women attempted to meet your twisted idea of proper feminine behavior.

And yes, everyone deserves better than being raped. Even you, and you’re just about the most unpleasant excuse for a human being I’ve ever encountered.

BTW, this thing you keep doing where you think that you can sneak in to dead threads and have the last word without anyone calling you out on your unpleasantness? It’s not going to work. Also, it’s cowardly.

pecunium
9 years ago

Meller: “Grade A ‘asshat’”? Speak for yourselves! Rape, domestc violence, and other misbehavior would be exceedingly unlikely in a society where women were cherished AS WOMEN,where they would be valued by their capacity to bring love, pleasure, and beauty into the home and into the world.

Umn… sure,maybe. Except that it didn’t work in the past. What would be different this time around?

Know what… If I were allowed to shoot people, out of hand, if I was sure they had raped someone… that might fix it too.

It might fix it if I could just shoot people I thought might/i> rape people. That would keep them in line. I could start with a bit of “loving correction” in the form of a stern lecture mild if they were engaging misogynist speech. If they kept provoking me, having had it explained to them, then I could engage in a mild beating; a slap or two, maybe a gut-punch. Third time, well it’s the whip or the gun: I mean they obviously didn’t love women enough to not “provoke” me.

It’s not as if they wouldn’t know it might happen, not after the first two times I explained it to them.

Right?

That’s a stupid idea. Because it’s morally wrong. Just as it’s morally wrong to decided a class of people ought to be denied full rights and participation. Women (much as you would love it to not be true) are just as good as you are (most are better, but we’ll leave that lie).

And you… not brave enough to stick out the thread when it was still lively. Again you try to slink in and get in the last word. So really… Grade C asshat.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Oh, Meller. Nice of you to try and wave away rape and domestic violence as mere “misbehavior.” Those are crimes, you asshole.

Let’s not forget, you’re a disgusting person who laughs at cancer patients and the killing of women. Fuck off.

hellkell
hellkell
9 years ago

Just because you don’t get it, Mellertoad:

Ithiliana–February 12, 2012 @2:31pm

“graduate student “murdered” by ex-husband”

Take post cited above. Could woman who talks like that (over the ‘net) have such an unpleasant, unfeminine, and just plain horrid personality that she could say something that MAY provoke an unpleasant response from a nearby man who may already be troubled about something else. Look at all of the cases you read about where a murder or vicious assault or rape was committed by a man whose entire life was coming apart, and the very person—his wife–whom he was relying upon to keep what was left of his sanity was turning on him…

Did graduate student take her “how to handle men” or something like that from YOU?

I was explaining that a man who loved his nearest and dearest would do anything to avoid the spousal abuse so often cited on feminuttery websites and blogs like this, because it wouldn’t get him what he wanted! I would rather be kind, gentle, and loving to a woman than beat,rape, or kill her, and so would most men, for obvious reasons!

Gee, Ithiliana, for an intelligent woman, you sure have a lot of trouble understanding ordinary common sense, don’t you?

Polliwog
Polliwog
9 years ago

Meller perpetually makes me need baby animals.

Ergo, baby walrus time:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/nyregion/orphaned-baby-walrus-to-arrive-at-new-york-aquarium.html?_r=0

pecunium
9 years ago

I passed this by the first time but…

Do women(?) infesting the armed forces deserve any better? Why are there women “soldiers anyhow? Okay, there are far too many men soldiers in the world–or even in our wretched USSA type of fascism/corporatism/ kleptocracy–but certainly expanding this “opportunity” to the fair sex does nothing for the rest of us!

Look on the bright side–these women (speaking charitably) being “raped” or sexually harassed” are showing how tough, brutal and masculine they are, they are being (or at least imitating) the warrior creed that has so often degraded and brutalized men throughout history!

What they allow is for the draft to not be re-instated; the same is true for letting blacks/hispanics/non-US citizens to enlist too: that’s quite apart from them keeping the overall demographic a little closer to that of the polity as a whole.

No, women in the armed forces don’t deserve better than other women. They don’t deserve better than other people. No one should be harassed, or raped. Male/Female/Trans. No one deserves to be raped.

But you don’t care. You want a world of Gorean slave girls, where women who don’t want to be Holly Homemaker are sold to the local brothels, where Henry Husband can stop by after work and have a bit of, “fun” before he heads to the house for Holly’s home-cooking.

I wish I could pity you, it would be easier. Thinking of you like a homeless puppy, something which only needs a bit of love, warmth and kindness to make happy. But that won’t do it. You, like NWO, will only be happy when women are oppressed.

pecunium
9 years ago

And… I missed this in my response, because I was blinkered by the question you asked… letting them serve allows them to do what they want.

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