Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge, known for his violent rhetoric and rape apologia, has been arrested for death threats against police.
Not too surprising, given that he once announced on his blog that “[k]illing at least one cop is on my bucket list.”
Here are some Google-translated details from a news account here:
The right-wing extremist and anti-feminist blogger Eivind Berge has been arrested for having encouraged and glorified the killing of policemen. The police have found both ammunition and textbooks in use of explosives at Berge.
The police regard the threats as an invitation to others to kill police officers, but also feared that he would commit the acts themselves shortly.
He was evidently arrested on Wednesday. According to this story — at least as far as I can tell from the obviously crude Google translation — he made a specific threat to kill a police officer this Saturday:
Berge also writes about how he was planning to attack a policeman with a knife on a Saturday evening:
“Then I used the trial to come forward as a good example for men, and I considered it to be worth 21 years in prison for premeditated murder.”
According to this account, Berge is being held for two weeks. He claims innocence.
Berge, as readers of this blog may well already know, is a fan of right-wing terrorist and mass murderer Anders Brevik. On his blog, he’s also argued (among other things) that “Rape is Equality.”
He’s glorified the murder of police on his blog numerous times.
Some examples, taken from the second news account:
“… attack on the police is something 100% in harmony with everything I stand for.”
“I maintain that police murder is both ethically and tactically correct.”
Some other examples, direct from his blog (each paragraph is from a separate post; click on the quote for the source):
I viscerally despise cops and wish them the worst. Killing at least one cop is on my bucket list.
If ever a victim of psychiatry, here is what I would do. I would first attempt to kill the cops or whoever tried to apprehend me. Failing that, I would feign docility in order to get out as soon as possible and then kill a representative of the industry as revenge. … killing cops is also very much a men’s issue. Every pig killed is also a blow against feminism, so men should be doubly elated whenever an officer goes down in the line of encroaching on our cognitive liberty.
This was his reaction to a news story about a police officer being killed:
Good news for men is rare in this hateful feminist utopia that is Norway, but today is a joyous day! Today I feel schadenfreude in my heart along with all the hate that feminism and resultant mate deprivation have instilled in me. One blue thug less on the streets.
From another post on the same subject:
The swine Olav Kildal died while trying to enforce our lack of cognitive liberty. This was a defensive, much deserved killing that cheered me up.
Here he threatens a female prosecutor:
To feminist prosecutor Anne Cathrine Aga I have the following message: The Men’s Movement is watching you, bitch, and we are seething with hatred against you personally and the police state you represent. Actions have consequences. Trials are still (mostly) public and they sink into our collective minds, where they form the basis of future activism. Hate breeds hate — that is a fact of life too smugly ignored by feminists. …
2011 is the year Norwegian men as a group emerged out of the blogosphere and into the battlefield. This in turn has led to a breakthrough for MRAs such as my good self in the public discourse, probably for the simple reason that the powers that be now realize ignoring us has deadly consequences. Men are angry now, and we have proven that we are deathly serious about resisting feminism. So the feminist prosecutors referred to above ought to wipe that smug look off their faces before it is too late. Clearly seventy-seven body bags wasn’t enough, but I am fairly confident that you will be sorry one day.
Aside from the explicit threats of violence, the violent and threatening rhetoric here is not unlike much of the rhetoric we see regularly on A Voice for Men and other MRA sites. AVFM founder Paul Elam, for example, told one feminist that:
I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea of fucking your shit up gives me an erection. … We are coming for you.
The blogger Emma the Emo, Berge’s girlfriend, has posted comments here in the past defending him. The news account quotes someone identified as Nataliya Kochergova, described as his girlfriend; I assume this is “Emma,” because what she told the media is similar to what she posted here. She of course denies that he planned any real violence. According to the article, she said:
There are not really threats. He has never had plans to kill someone, he has said several times in his blog. When for example, he says that “the police killings are an effective way to prevent stupid laws,” it’s a factual description and not a threat. Even those who love the police agree with it.
Berge, for his part, has stated publicly that if he had not met Emma, he probably would have killed by now:
At the time I wrote my last blog post, I believed I would probably become Norway’s first modern violent activist in peacetime. Celibacy enforced by a feminist regime had driven me to the point where I saw no other option. I would target the pigs who enforce feminist law, knowing I could realistically at least kill one of them before I would be captured or killed myself. Thus revenge would be assured and if I lived, my reputation as a violent criminal would make me attractive to some women. But then in the nick of time this blog attracted a lovely girl commenting as “Emma.”
This is why I take violent rhetoric from MRAs very seriously.
Meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic, MRAs glorify MRA “martyr” Thomas Ball, who killed himself on the steps of a New Hampshire courthouse last year in hopes that his death would inspire MRAs to literally burn down courthouses and police stations.
Ball’s manifesto is still up on A Voice for Men in its “activism” section, including these passages:
So boys, we need to start burning down police stations and courthouses. … This is too important to be using that touchy- feeling coaching that is so popular with business these days. You need to flatten them, like Wile E. Coyote. They need to be taught never to replace the rule of law. BURN-THEM-OUT!
Most of the police stations built in New England over the last 20 years are stone or brick. Fortunately, the roofs are still wood. The advantage of fire on the roof is that it is above the sprinklers
AVFM tastefully omitted Ball’s specific instructions on how to make Molotov cocktails, but left this in:
There will be some casualties in this war. Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.
For many more examples of violent threatening rhetoric from MRAs, I urge you to go through some of my posts here and here.
“This Norwegian dude will become a martyr of sorts, that’s pretty obvious.” -Happy
Then the MRM is everything we, Southern Poverty Law center included, say it is, that’s pretty obvious.
‘Now let’s everybody go get some fresh air..’ – Happy
Hilarious. We’re adults, we can figure out when to go outside.
Most top scientists are men; that negative fact about women is bigotry against women because women are a minority. Men, however, are not a minority, so the negative fact about men that most criminals are men is not bigotry against men.
On a more sinister note, Happy prolly wants David to go play outside so he can’t collect all his quote mined specimens and bag them up after this news hits the MRM and knuckleheads make comments on the subject. Heh. There’ll be plenty to choose from for manboobz.
Shorter version for NWO, since he has trouble with complex things — “My voice is my weapon of choice” — wtf y’all are so afraid of is called equality, you can complain all day that feminist equity means hating men, but it really doesn’t (it means men don’t get to make more for the same work, it means women are assumed to be fuly complex people, etc)
“On a more sinister note, Happy prolly wants David to go play outside so he can’t collect all his quote mined specimens and bag them up after this news hits the MRM and knuckleheads make comments on the subject. Heh. There’ll be plenty to choose from for manboobz.”
I was thinking that, but “happy” is too common a word to run a competent search for previous comments. (And indifferentsky, I thought you were fresh air… [a bad pun on your nym])
hee!!!
Um, yeah, y’all really didn’t get what I was saying… Reading and thinking about hateful low lives all the time gets a person down, taking a break is a good thing. What’s wrong with that?
I am fairly sure the mass murders would have happened anyway, families being wiped out by jealous fathers isn’t new. A bunch of warped dudes justifying it is.
A couple of times David has said that he needs to get away from manosphere nonsense, that’s what I was saying.
Have you all been taking Hellkell supplements??!!
@argenti.
Wtf are you on about? I’d you’re gonna make an accusation, just come out and say it?
You’re making no sense.,
“You’re making no sense.,”
That I thought similar (to what indifferentsky said) and tried searching to confirm/deny makes no sense? o.O? Or you’re talking about something else and could perhaps be clear about that?
“Reading and thinking about hateful low lives all the time gets a person down, taking a break is a good thing. What’s wrong with that? ”
That many of us have no choice but to smile and take this shit from assholes in places where we can’t just put down the computer and walk away — thus making that tiny iota of control over the situation refreshing in its own right. (Yes, “tiny iota” is redundant, I’m aware)
“Have you all been taking Hellkell supplements??!!”
What? I can’t tell if that’s a crack at Hellkell, a bad joke, or wtf. I prefer telekill myself (though if you spend too long around it you might start sounding like the MRM I guess…)
3 points.
1. I like hellkell, and she’s a commenter in good standing here. Taking potshots at her is not cool.
2. Still with the “this stuff upsets me so it must upset other people, won’t you all take my sage advice” nonsense? Everyone else seems to be fine, but if you feel the need to take a break, go for it.
3. If you’re going to rail at other people for not making sense, it would help if most of what you say yourself made any sense. It usually doesn’t.
Unsurprisingly, one of the Spearhead commenters thinks that Eivind Berge’s blog is “Provocative, but not too much so.”
Going from the rest of his comment, I suspect his definition of “too provocative” would be the notion of women having any kind of voice at all.
If suggesting that rape is affirmative action is “provocative, but not too much so”, what would qualify as very provocative?
“The only one’s fighting this “progressive” truth are men. Man’s truth hasn’t changed. Women’s truth has followed the herd. That’s why MRAs are bad, they refuse to alter the truth to follow the herd.”
*sigh* Yes, the majority of the people that make up the portion of the MEN’S rights movement that are vehemently anti-female are……..MALE! Who would have thunk it?
You can use that entire paragraph you wrote to try and rationalize *any* unpopular opinion:
“The only one’s fighting this “progressive” truth are white supremacists. The white supremacist truth hasn’t changed. Anti-whites truth has followed the herd. That’s why white supremacists are bad, they refuse to alter the truth to follow the herd.”
Honestly, that sounded like a reverse argumentum ad populum. Also, stop pretending that you are all crusaders for truth when plenty of guys are there in the manosphere to simply bitch about women after experiencing personal angst in an environment that fosters a toxic atmosphere of women bashing that invites men to wallow in their anger.
Lots of people refuse to adopt to new memes for a myriad of reasons (religious or political ideologies, ect.) but much like the flat earth society, eventually really antiquated ones are left to a tiny fragment of the populace that is considered idiotic at best and lunatics at worst.
I also find it rather jarring that you think men have unchanging worldviews when it’s obvious how much has changed, just in this one society since the inception of the United States and men were a large part of it. Men are not stagnant pools of dogmatic thought. They are capable of using reason and logic to adjust their positions on things. Although that might not be clear to a fundamental Christian because they shun logic, skepticism, and reason in order to try and maintain their beliefs using faith… but that’s a discussion for another day.
@CassandraSays:
If suggesting that rape is affirmative action is “provocative, but not too much so”, what would qualify as very provocative?
According to him, murder.
*Ack, I meant, according to him PROBABLY murder. I need to stop multi-tasking when I write these comments, especially before coffee. Not used to being unable to edit out my mistakes.
Woman talks about talking about gender issues in video games – gets severe online harassment
Man talks about killing police – eventually gets arrested
Happ, I got what you were saying and responded to it. The response does not indicate I did not get it. Your suggestion was full of patronizing one dimensional assumptions.
Again, I hate being put in a position of having to defend Eivind Berge, but he’s had plenty of “online harassment” since he came out as a rape apologist a couple of years ago, both in his comments boxes and elsewhere – I remember at one point he was placed on a list of the ten vilest people on the Internet.
This was richly merited harassment, of course, but it’s not as though he’s been ignored. Or indeed championed – for someone so visible and controversial, he seems to have had very very few people prepared to speak up for him to any great extent outside his comments boxes.
As for the police, I think they played a difficult hand pretty sensibly. I suspect they’d been keeping an eye on him for some time (certainly since he came out as a Breivik admirer a year ago), but with situations like this it’s very hard to know when to make the first move – and according to the OP, Berge didn’t give them a good excuse until he turned vague threats into something specific (and timed).
Another vile idiot worshiping Breivik.
“Since sex is a female resource, any male is only lucky to get sex from women regardless of whether he is underage, forced or whatever.”
It is very hard for me to understand his logic. So, according to him, all women use their bodies as a resourse to get whatever they want from men since women don’t have any sexual desires on their own. For women sex is just a resource for exchange. And no man can possess this resource…
And how does he explain the existence of gigoloes, male prostitutes and strippers (body as a resource)?
This guy’s head must be a scarry place.
His blog isn’t the half of it – he also used to troll forums for sex abuse survivors.
Here’s an example of him crashing a forum for victims of female sex abusers – obvious trigger warning for content, though you’ll be glad (if unsurprised) to hear that the reaction was universally negative.
LOL at “Hellkell Supplements.” They’re guaranteed to make you 30% snarkier and 100% less likely to put up with bullshit like Happy’s. Try them today!
Happy’s another one like Ruby who thinks that just because we may agree on the surface, it gives them carte blanche to say anything, from the slightly problematic to the bone ignorant.
Whetherby, what exactly do you mean by harassment? Because being on a list of vile people for being a rape apologist doesn’t really seem harassment to me.
I want Hellkell suplement! Wait… Are they made from body parts? Which ones?
“…and according to the OP, Berge didn’t give them a good excuse until he turned vague threats into something specific (and timed).”
Psych time! Method = check; timing = check; means? determined to = check; yep, you’re getting a psych ward visit at the least. And that’s if you’re threatening yourself, threaten someone else? Yeah, I can see his arrest making perfect sense now (I had been disgusted but still mildly concerned about free speech, but if it’s over the line for suicidal people, it’s certainly over the line for homicidal people).
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