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Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge arrested for death threats against police [UPDATE 3]

Eivind Berge and police

Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge, known for his violent rhetoric and rape apologia, has been arrested for death threats against police.

Not too surprising, given that he once announced on his blog that “[k]illing at least one cop is on my bucket list.”

Here are some Google-translated details from a news account here:

The right-wing extremist and anti-feminist blogger Eivind Berge has been arrested for having encouraged and glorified the killing of policemen. The police have found both ammunition and textbooks in use of explosives at Berge.

The police regard the threats as an invitation to others to kill police officers, but also feared that he would commit the acts themselves shortly.

He was evidently arrested on Wednesday. According to this story — at least as far as I can tell from the obviously crude Google translation — he made a specific threat to kill a police officer this Saturday:

Berge also writes about how he was planning to attack a policeman with a knife on a Saturday evening:

“Then I used the trial to come forward as a good example for men, and I considered it to be worth 21 years in prison for premeditated murder.”

According to this account, Berge is being held for two weeks. He claims innocence.

Berge, as readers of this blog may well already know, is a fan of right-wing terrorist and mass murderer Anders Brevik. On his blog, he’s also argued (among other things) that “Rape is Equality.”

He’s glorified the murder of police on his blog numerous times.

Some examples, taken from the second news account:

“… attack on the police is something 100% in harmony with everything I stand for.”

“I maintain that police murder is both ethically and tactically correct.”

Some other examples, direct from his blog (each paragraph is from a separate post; click on the quote for the source):

I viscerally despise cops and wish them the worst. Killing at least one cop is on my bucket list.

If ever a victim of psychiatry, here is what I would do. I would first attempt to kill the cops or whoever tried to apprehend me. Failing that, I would feign docility in order to get out as soon as possible and then kill a representative of the industry as revenge. … killing cops is also very much a men’s issue. Every pig killed is also a blow against feminism, so men should be doubly elated whenever an officer goes down in the line of encroaching on our cognitive liberty.

[I]f you are a victim of psychiatry, it is probably in your best interest (as well as a publicly beneficial act of activism) to kill a guard or cop in order to get a fair public trial and possibly escape treatment before it ruins your health completely.

Rather than cowering in fear of the police, I assumed a warrior mentality and started hating law enforcement. I really, really wanted to hurt those responsible for enacting and enforcing feminist sex law.

This was his reaction to a news story about a police officer being killed:

Good news for men is rare in this hateful feminist utopia that is Norway, but today is a joyous day! Today I feel schadenfreude in my heart along with all the hate that feminism and resultant mate deprivation have instilled in me. One blue thug less on the streets.

From another post on the same subject:

The swine Olav Kildal died while trying to enforce our lack of cognitive liberty. This was a defensive, much deserved killing that cheered me up.

Here he threatens a female prosecutor:

To feminist prosecutor Anne Cathrine Aga I have the following message: The Men’s Movement is watching you, bitch, and we are seething with hatred against you personally and the police state you represent. Actions have consequences. Trials are still (mostly) public and they sink into our collective minds, where they form the basis of future activism. Hate breeds hate — that is a fact of life too smugly ignored by feminists. …

2011 is the year Norwegian men as a group emerged out of the blogosphere and into the battlefield. This in turn has led to a breakthrough for MRAs such as my good self in the public discourse, probably for the simple reason that the powers that be now realize ignoring us has deadly consequences. Men are angry now, and we have proven that we are deathly serious about resisting feminism. So the feminist prosecutors referred to above ought to wipe that smug look off their faces before it is too late. Clearly seventy-seven body bags wasn’t enough, but I am fairly confident that you will be sorry one day.

Aside from the explicit threats of violence, the violent and threatening rhetoric here is not unlike much of the rhetoric we see regularly on A Voice for Men and other MRA sites. AVFM founder Paul Elam, for example, told one feminist that:

I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea of fucking your shit up gives me an erection. … We are coming for you.

The blogger Emma the Emo, Berge’s girlfriend, has posted comments here in the past defending him. The news account quotes someone identified as Nataliya Kochergova, described as his girlfriend; I assume this is “Emma,” because what she told the media is similar to what she posted here. She of course denies that he planned any real violence. According to the article, she said:

There are not really threats. He has never had plans to kill someone, he has said several times in his blog. When for example, he says that “the police killings are an effective way to prevent stupid laws,” it’s a factual description and not a threat. Even those who love the police agree with it.

Berge, for his part, has stated publicly that if he had not met Emma, he probably would have killed by now:

At the time I wrote my last blog post, I believed I would probably become Norway’s first modern violent activist in peacetime. Celibacy enforced by a feminist regime had driven me to the point where I saw no other option. I would target the pigs who enforce feminist law, knowing I could realistically at least kill one of them before I would be captured or killed myself. Thus revenge would be assured and if I lived, my reputation as a violent criminal would make me attractive to some women. But then in the nick of time this blog attracted a lovely girl commenting as “Emma.”

This is why I take violent rhetoric from MRAs very seriously.

Meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic, MRAs glorify MRA “martyr” Thomas Ball, who killed himself on the steps of a New Hampshire courthouse last year in hopes that his death would inspire MRAs to literally burn down courthouses and police stations.

Ball’s manifesto is still up on A Voice for Men in its “activism” section, including these passages:

So boys, we need to start burning down police stations and courthouses. … This is too important to be using that touchy- feeling coaching that is so popular with business these days. You need to flatten them, like Wile E. Coyote. They need to be taught never to replace the rule of law. BURN-THEM-OUT!

Most of the police stations built in New England over the last 20 years are stone or brick. Fortunately, the roofs are still wood. The advantage of fire on the roof is that it is above the sprinklers

AVFM tastefully omitted Ball’s specific instructions on how to make Molotov cocktails, but left this in:

There will be some casualties in this war. Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.

For many more examples of violent threatening rhetoric from MRAs, I urge you to go through some of my posts here and  here.

 

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CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Yeah, maybe we can encourage him to stick to talking about his obsession with the idea of a 50 cent discrepancy between gift value as being a sign of whoredom instead of his theory of child prostitution. The “whore!” stuff is so much less depressing.

(Glad it’s not just me)

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
13 years ago

“No, the Stockholm A Love Story Game controversy in Scandinavia began in its early development stages. And then I heard, ” Some guy supports that”, and failed to address him properly.”

At least he can manage a semi-plausible back story? Or is that worse in his case?

“PGHOW” = LOL

Wetherby
Wetherby
13 years ago

Oh and Tom, real couples that are happy with one another aren’t about tit for tat. They do things for each other because they want to, not out of obligation.

I bet Tom’s a fan of those guys who sued their exes after their relationships broke up for every penny they’d ever spent on them, revealing in the process that they’d kept receipts and meticulously noted everything down on a spreadsheet from the day the relationship started.

After the judges (amazingly, there was more than one case like this, and on both sides of the Atlantic) invariably threw the case out, probably stifling giggles in the process, I’d love to know if the plaintiffs managed to get a date ever again.

Me, I haven’t a clue what I’ve spent on my wife over the decade-plus that we’ve been together. And I’d be astounded if she was any better informed about vice versa. But that’s because we’ve been pooling our income into the same joint account almost as soon as we decided to start living together, so it would take some pretty forensic auditing.

(And even then I suspect it would struggle to come up with a definitive total, since a lot of spontaneous gifts have been bought off the joint bank card, with no indication of who actually used it appearing on the bank statement. But I suspect I’ve now entered a realm that’s as fantastical to the average MRA as one full of dragons and unicorns.)

jumbofisch
jumbofisch
13 years ago

Someone said men should renounce being a Jon. Fair enough!
In case you haven’t guessed, it is already against my religion to give women money or gifts. I renounced being a Jon in all its forms a long time ago. Historically I have paid on dates, or bought a drink etc for a date, but thought about it, and decided not to continue down that route – and I am a much better person for it. When I go on a date, I say “get your money out then” and that is it. She might groan a bit, but soon gets over it and realizes I am confident enough not to have to bribe her for sex.

Jon??? Don’t you mean john?? I mean it can’t be a spelling mistake since you did it more than once…..

Also which region are you part of? I have never heard of a religion that specifies women must not receive gifts.

You are so ridiculous, people give each other gifts all the time without expecting to be paid back because you know they are gifts. Gifts are things you give to someone which you don’t expect them to pay back, its normal and okay to do this.

Do you normally think oh kids on halloween and chistmas are all whores for accepting candy and presents when they don’t get paid back? I mean they go knocking on door to door asking for candy and they don’t intend to ever pay them back, dirty whores amiright?

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

So if I’m a whore because my boyfriend had sex with me and gave me a birthday present. Okay. But my friends gave me birthday presents and they didn’t have sex with me! Is that still whoring? Or is it straight-up theft?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Mr C and I have never had a joint bank account (we do have a shared credit card) and even so I can’t imagine trying to quantify who’s spent what over the years, much less provide a detailed Excel spreadsheet. Who does that shit?

(Apart from characters in novels meant to symbolize their partner’s lack of self-confidence because they actually put up with it.)

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

The worst is guys who, when you say, “I don’t believe in 50-50,” think you’re angling for 60-40. I think some of it’s just a Strictly Logical mindset (frequently infected with “logic is masculine and superior, emotion is feminine and inferior”) that thinks “there always has to be a number, so if she doesn’t want 50-50 she must want a different specific number.”

The idea that roughly fair can actually be better for both partners than exactly fair is apparently not intuitive to some people.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Not Rose, Lena, I had a memory failure moment. For anyone wondering what the hell we’re talking about, here you go.

I interpret the guys who say that stuff as insisting that they want 50/50 but not actually wanting that at all, it’s more like they have a mindset in which it’s assumed that both parties must be out to screw the other over and so that’s why a balance sheet is needed. It’s partly a trust issue, I think, and partly sexism of exactly the kind that Tom illustrates so nicely.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Also OT but for me the most touching moment in both book and movie was the conversation between Lena and her mom about the ice cream and why it shouldn’t be on the list.

Wetherby
Wetherby
13 years ago

M Dubz:

This is a lie. We call one another out respectfully ALL THE TIME. I just participated in a rather long conversation about some questionable comments on another thread yesterday. And in turn, I have been criticized on more than one occasion. In fact, as a commentariat, I think that we are REMARKABLY good about criticizing one another in order to promote a more inclusive and supportive atmosphere among the non-trolls. It’s something I love about this site.

Absolutely seconded. When it comes to self-policing, the commentariat here does a better and more respectful job than any other blog I’ve ever seen.

Hit’n’run commenters like Tom Martin probably don’t notice because such discussions are generally over in a polite two or three-comment exchange and are therefore easily missed – but they happen, and they happen daily. Sometimes hourly.

Why do MRAs mischaracterise this blog and its commentariat so blatantly? Are they genuinely deluded enough to think that their claims will stand up to scrutiny, or do they assume that no-one will check? And if the latter, why? Since they’re precisely the kind of people who… oh, I don’t know, will argue for 1,000+ comments (999 by themselves) over the precise definition of the word “misandry”, how can they possibly imagine that the people they’re criticising will simply roll over and say “Oh, OK then”?

Very strange people.

BigMomma
BigMomma
13 years ago

after the sheer horror that has been Tom Martin’s posts…i offer this up

http://blogs.walkerart.org/mnartists/2012/05/31/internet-cat-video-film-festival-on-open-field/

*lays down link and backs slowly away*

ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
13 years ago

I know this is going back like a page and a bit, but did Tom just call us prudish, conservative hookers? Hahaha… (imagine the laughter continuing for about 5 minutes).

indifferentsky
13 years ago

Regarding Joy Luck club, yeah, I think if I wouldn’t treat a friend like that, I wouldn’t treat a spouse like that. He goes way overboard.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

Shrug.
I could explain at length, but it’s useless with you lot, because you don’t understand PUA is male sexual empowerment, which it is.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

I do think that if you Google ” Clarisse Thorn Clara Rose” you might find it hilarious. She became a minder at a PUA event and the guys just tried to seduce her that much harder. The book tells it from her feminist sex-pos perspective.

ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
13 years ago

Shorter Eurosabra: “We should be able to harrass women! It’s empowering!”

Yeah.. and that’s the problem.

ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
13 years ago

Countdown to him misinterpreting that as “men should be complete disempowered” in 5..

nwoslave
13 years ago

“This is a lie. We call one another out respectfully ALL THE TIME.”

Says the crew that spent an entire thread ridiculing Christianity because they knew it offended me. Endorsed by our host, Dave. Ridiculing a persons faith just for the enjoyment of tormenting them.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

Clara Rose was her pseudonym. I don’t know if it was event-specific. Clarisse Thorn is also a pseudonym, of course.

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

Aw, I really am a whore! Yay!

But seriously Tommy, you still don’t know what that word means. Her setting me up with transportation was not contingent upon me continuing to fuck her on the regular. She offered to help me with something I needed, because she cared about me. That’s just relationships work, a lot of the time. I couldn’t afford it. She could.

And even if it does make me a whore, so what? I didn’t hurt anybody. I’m not gonna let anybody shame me for the choices I’ve made, least of all you, Tommy. You’re really not in position to moralize.

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

…you don’t understand PUA is male sexual empowerment…

Fuck that noise. PUA is snake oil at best. I’ve seen how it makes you act, and that shit ain’t empowerment.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

Men are already disempowered by the demisexuality of many women, and by generalized female hypergamy. Who needs ” it” (sex, relationship, attention) ‘more.’” *has the lesser bargaining position*.
Before PUA, I was a beggar.
And I know you want men socially, economically, and politically disempowered too.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

Mind you capitalism does that handily on its own.

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

Men are already disempowered by the demisexuality of many women, and by generalized female hypergamy.

Bullshit.

Before PUA, I was a beggar.

And now you’re a con man. Congrats?

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