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Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge arrested for death threats against police [UPDATE 3]

Eivind Berge and police

Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge, known for his violent rhetoric and rape apologia, has been arrested for death threats against police.

Not too surprising, given that he once announced on his blog that “[k]illing at least one cop is on my bucket list.”

Here are some Google-translated details from a news account here:

The right-wing extremist and anti-feminist blogger Eivind Berge has been arrested for having encouraged and glorified the killing of policemen. The police have found both ammunition and textbooks in use of explosives at Berge.

The police regard the threats as an invitation to others to kill police officers, but also feared that he would commit the acts themselves shortly.

He was evidently arrested on Wednesday. According to this story — at least as far as I can tell from the obviously crude Google translation — he made a specific threat to kill a police officer this Saturday:

Berge also writes about how he was planning to attack a policeman with a knife on a Saturday evening:

“Then I used the trial to come forward as a good example for men, and I considered it to be worth 21 years in prison for premeditated murder.”

According to this account, Berge is being held for two weeks. He claims innocence.

Berge, as readers of this blog may well already know, is a fan of right-wing terrorist and mass murderer Anders Brevik. On his blog, he’s also argued (among other things) that “Rape is Equality.”

He’s glorified the murder of police on his blog numerous times.

Some examples, taken from the second news account:

“… attack on the police is something 100% in harmony with everything I stand for.”

“I maintain that police murder is both ethically and tactically correct.”

Some other examples, direct from his blog (each paragraph is from a separate post; click on the quote for the source):

I viscerally despise cops and wish them the worst. Killing at least one cop is on my bucket list.

If ever a victim of psychiatry, here is what I would do. I would first attempt to kill the cops or whoever tried to apprehend me. Failing that, I would feign docility in order to get out as soon as possible and then kill a representative of the industry as revenge. … killing cops is also very much a men’s issue. Every pig killed is also a blow against feminism, so men should be doubly elated whenever an officer goes down in the line of encroaching on our cognitive liberty.

[I]f you are a victim of psychiatry, it is probably in your best interest (as well as a publicly beneficial act of activism) to kill a guard or cop in order to get a fair public trial and possibly escape treatment before it ruins your health completely.

Rather than cowering in fear of the police, I assumed a warrior mentality and started hating law enforcement. I really, really wanted to hurt those responsible for enacting and enforcing feminist sex law.

This was his reaction to a news story about a police officer being killed:

Good news for men is rare in this hateful feminist utopia that is Norway, but today is a joyous day! Today I feel schadenfreude in my heart along with all the hate that feminism and resultant mate deprivation have instilled in me. One blue thug less on the streets.

From another post on the same subject:

The swine Olav Kildal died while trying to enforce our lack of cognitive liberty. This was a defensive, much deserved killing that cheered me up.

Here he threatens a female prosecutor:

To feminist prosecutor Anne Cathrine Aga I have the following message: The Men’s Movement is watching you, bitch, and we are seething with hatred against you personally and the police state you represent. Actions have consequences. Trials are still (mostly) public and they sink into our collective minds, where they form the basis of future activism. Hate breeds hate — that is a fact of life too smugly ignored by feminists. …

2011 is the year Norwegian men as a group emerged out of the blogosphere and into the battlefield. This in turn has led to a breakthrough for MRAs such as my good self in the public discourse, probably for the simple reason that the powers that be now realize ignoring us has deadly consequences. Men are angry now, and we have proven that we are deathly serious about resisting feminism. So the feminist prosecutors referred to above ought to wipe that smug look off their faces before it is too late. Clearly seventy-seven body bags wasn’t enough, but I am fairly confident that you will be sorry one day.

Aside from the explicit threats of violence, the violent and threatening rhetoric here is not unlike much of the rhetoric we see regularly on A Voice for Men and other MRA sites. AVFM founder Paul Elam, for example, told one feminist that:

I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea of fucking your shit up gives me an erection. … We are coming for you.

The blogger Emma the Emo, Berge’s girlfriend, has posted comments here in the past defending him. The news account quotes someone identified as Nataliya Kochergova, described as his girlfriend; I assume this is “Emma,” because what she told the media is similar to what she posted here. She of course denies that he planned any real violence. According to the article, she said:

There are not really threats. He has never had plans to kill someone, he has said several times in his blog. When for example, he says that “the police killings are an effective way to prevent stupid laws,” it’s a factual description and not a threat. Even those who love the police agree with it.

Berge, for his part, has stated publicly that if he had not met Emma, he probably would have killed by now:

At the time I wrote my last blog post, I believed I would probably become Norway’s first modern violent activist in peacetime. Celibacy enforced by a feminist regime had driven me to the point where I saw no other option. I would target the pigs who enforce feminist law, knowing I could realistically at least kill one of them before I would be captured or killed myself. Thus revenge would be assured and if I lived, my reputation as a violent criminal would make me attractive to some women. But then in the nick of time this blog attracted a lovely girl commenting as “Emma.”

This is why I take violent rhetoric from MRAs very seriously.

Meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic, MRAs glorify MRA “martyr” Thomas Ball, who killed himself on the steps of a New Hampshire courthouse last year in hopes that his death would inspire MRAs to literally burn down courthouses and police stations.

Ball’s manifesto is still up on A Voice for Men in its “activism” section, including these passages:

So boys, we need to start burning down police stations and courthouses. … This is too important to be using that touchy- feeling coaching that is so popular with business these days. You need to flatten them, like Wile E. Coyote. They need to be taught never to replace the rule of law. BURN-THEM-OUT!

Most of the police stations built in New England over the last 20 years are stone or brick. Fortunately, the roofs are still wood. The advantage of fire on the roof is that it is above the sprinklers

AVFM tastefully omitted Ball’s specific instructions on how to make Molotov cocktails, but left this in:

There will be some casualties in this war. Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.

For many more examples of violent threatening rhetoric from MRAs, I urge you to go through some of my posts here and  here.

 

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Bostonian
13 years ago

In order to give or receive a gift you have to be a man, according to Tom Martin. Only men should ever get anything ever.

jumbofisch
jumbofisch
13 years ago

Also are men whores if they accept gifts from their partners?

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

Apparently in Tom-Martin-land all child prostitutes are independent escorts who set up and manage their own businesses and recruit all their own customers?

Can he really be that stupid?

Also, wow, we’re really reaching the theoretical limits of “a woman who receives any sort of good or service from anyone in her entire life is a whore” here.

pecunium
13 years ago

Also are men whores if they accept gifts from their partners?

No. Of course not. Women owe them for men hunting mammoths and inventing the wheel.

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

Yeah Tom, my ex-girlfriend bought me a car. Twice! Am I a whore?

jumbofisch
jumbofisch
13 years ago

Tom why do you only call women whores and not men? Men receive gifts from their partners too, aren’t they whores as well?

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

If the child is enslaved – it’s rape, or too young or stupid to know what he or she’s doing – rape. But poor, and in need of food? Not rape. A choice. Unwilling to do other hard labour paying 9 times less than the prostitution route? Not rape. A choice.

So, I take it you’re unwilling to do any research on the brain development and mental capacity of children? Should we also try children as adults for all criminal activity or just prostitution?

Like I said, submit your beliefs in writing via a letter/essay to a major publication. Everyone likes page clicks; I’m certain your work will be published. If we’re just a group of humorless feminists too emotional and hand-bag clutching to see the truth then surely a broader, more diverse audience will agree with you whole-heartedly. They may even start to send you money so that you can pay your debt.

Be sure to include a link to that video so people can hear the cries of the six year old boy who was sodomized.

And of course, that means rejecting courtship gifts, engagement gifts, marriage gifts, divorce gifts, and government largess also.

Again, this is why you’re an extremist. The penguin thing is just a tangential aside in the freak show that is your rotten soul.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

If couples buy each other presents does it mean that they’re both whores or that neither of them whores. I mean, the other week my man took us out for drinks and dinner. The next night I made him dinner and served a bottle of wine and made him a cocktail. In both instances the food and drink cost money but I didn’t factor in the cost of my labor.

So which one of us is the whore?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

I have a hypothetical for Tom. So, last night Mr C and I went out to dinner, and the bartender (restaurant with a full bar inside) gave us both a free drink. Mr C thinks this was because I commented on the fact that the bartender is growing a beard, asked him how long he intended to grow it, etc, but honestly the bartender seems to be about equally fond of both of us. We both got free stuff as a result of being charming and friendly.

So, are Mr C and I both whores? Am I a whore, but Mr C is not? How does this whoredom theory work, exactly?

Tom Martin
13 years ago

Dracula said:
Yeah Tom, my ex-girlfriend bought me a car. Twice! Am I a whore?

Yes.

Peculium AND Jumbofish said:
Also are men whores if they accept gifts from their partners?

Yes, if the gifts are one way only and the man does not intend to reciprocate or pay her back.

Someone said men should renounce being a Jon. Fair enough!
In case you haven’t guessed, it is already against my religion to give women money or gifts. I renounced being a Jon in all its forms a long time ago. Historically I have paid on dates, or bought a drink etc for a date, but thought about it, and decided not to continue down that route – and I am a much better person for it. When I go on a date, I say “get your money out then” and that is it. She might groan a bit, but soon gets over it and realizes I am confident enough not to have to bribe her for sex.

Also, someone or other here said I was anthropomorphising human behaviour onto penguin behaviour by calling penguins whores or something.

But the point is, being a whore, is an animalistic trait, that human females should not need to resort to, given they’re at the top of the fucking food chain already. Google “nuptial gifts” and you can read studies about various animals granting sex to those males who provide the most food, or even the most glittery non-edible trinkets etc, or in the case of penguins, rocks to build nests and shelter with.

I’m saying women are better than penguins, or at least would be if they renounced prostitution in all its forms.

A lot of you seem to be very unclear on the egalitarian moral necessity to reject chivalry in all its forms. Marc Rudov is the expert on this subject:

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CFEQFjAB&url=http://thenononsenseman.com/article/2006/07/09/chivalry-died-in-the-garden-of-eden-marc-h-rudov/&ei=QKz_T5GVONSY1AX4pOSaBw&usg=AFQjCNF_LIzGnbsMLll9WUu7CJhAJ41LAg&sig

Fembot
Fembot
13 years ago

“When I go on a date, I say “get your money out then” and that is it. She might groan a bit, but soon gets over it and realizes I am confident enough not to have to bribe her for sex.”

I’ll just file this under SHIT THAT NEVER HAPPENED.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Mark Rudov is the author of “How To Be A Tedious Blowhard And Alienate People, And Also Why Did Anyone Give Me A Publishing Deal?”.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
13 years ago

Steele — “What’s the problem with Hugo Schwyzer?” — Pick one, review it: Hell No, Hugo! and/or Fuck No, Hugo Schwyzer.

Eurosabra —

“You’re going to be surprised, if not exactly comforted, that I was led to Berge via the Hit the Bitch and Stockholm the Game controversies when I was tasked with doing an anti-rape PSA’s subtitles. I personally am all sorts of ick, but my work is progressive. Consider it, well, penance.”

Wait, you were led to Berge, months or years ago (when you tried getting him into PUA), because of a game that only existed in the last month? That comment is just full of fail.

NWO —

Just a tiny round of Spot That Fallacy!! for you here —

@Argenti Aertheri
“That’s a Godwin, don’t do it.”

Please forgive me. I shall rephrase it. Manboobz is a place that uses the indentical tactics used at nazi headquarters, scouring the web to search out any who dare criticize the master race. Better?

Reductio ad Hitlerum (playing the Nazi card) – comparing an opponent or their argument to Hitler or Nazism in an attempt to associate a position with one that is universally reviled (See also – Godwin’s law)

Knock it off, pick a semi-valid analogy.

This entire comment.

Nirvana fallacy (perfect solution fallacy) – when solutions to problems are rejected because they are not perfect.

There’s no such thing as homosexual or transsexual. All sexuality is due to reproduction.
Telling someone their actions are repulsive is also good so they won’t continue doing it.

Those two thoughts directly contradict each other — if there is “no such thing as homosexual or transsexual,” then what “repulsive” actions are being done? This is particular illogical as you have a thing for insisting that all male-on-male rape is by gays because raping a man makes a man gay (that “logic” makes my head hurt).

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
13 years ago

For the sake of not throwing up at the child rape apologia, I’m ignoring Tom. I do want to say though, regarding the whole “female penguins are whores” thing — I’d thought it was pretty damned funny — you’d been funny before this Tom.

Argenti Aertheri
Argenti Aertheri
13 years ago

“Yes, if the gifts are one way only and the man does not intend to reciprocate or pay her back.”

Hey, a short one from Tom “sometimes funny” Martin! So, I have a standing friends with benefits arrangement, and was curious if you could tell me the conversion ratio of paintings to photography — and where sex factors into this. Thanks!

katz
13 years ago

Because every piece of professional and academic writing I’ve ever seen has “(you cunts)” sprinkled through it.

It’s listed as YC in the table of acronyms.

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

In case you haven’t guessed, it is already against my religion to give women money or gifts.

This must be awkward when you get a female cashier at the store.

Also: I don’t know whether my boyfriend or I have spent more over the course of the relationship. We trade off paying for dinners, but dinners also have varying costs, and I’ve done more household work for him than vice versa, but I also tend to drink the beer out of his fridge. We’ve never bothered to balance this up.

We’re going to have to make a spreadsheet to figure out which one of us is a whore!

themisanthropicmuse
themisanthropicmuse
13 years ago

Who knew that buying your significant other was making them become a whore. Seriously though, if this trolling arsehat is half as vile as he presents himself then I have lost all hope for humanity. Seriously, if human beings this fucking stupid exist, this species is just plain doomed.

themisanthropicmuse
themisanthropicmuse
13 years ago

argh, I had a few drinks tonight so I apologize for that mess of a post. What I meant was:

Who knew that buying your significant other birthday and Christmas presents was making them into a whore. Seriously though, if this trolling arsehat is half as vile as he presents himself then I have lost all hope for humanity. Seriously, if human beings this fucking stupid exist, this species is just plain doomed.

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

Hey. You know what?

What if penguins are whores? So what?

A male penguin brings a female a fish, and she mates with him. End result: two happy penguins! The male got sex and the female got fish (and sex). Everybody wins!

Why is this a bad thing? The male penguin isn’t being exploited–he’s got plenty of fish for himself, and it’s a small, mostly symbolic act of gift-giving. The female penguin isn’t demanding fish; if you don’t have fish or don’t want to give any up, you always have the option to not give her fish and not mate. (Making you, perhaps, a PGHOW.)

So penguins are whores. What’s wrong with that?

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

No, the Stockholm A Love Story Game controversy in Scandinavia began in its early development stages. And then I heard, ” Some guy supports that”, and failed to address him properly.

themisanthropicmuse
themisanthropicmuse
13 years ago

Oh and Tom, real couples that are happy with one another aren’t about tit for tat. They do things for each other because they want to, not out of obligation. Of course you would not know this since I doubt you’ve ever had a successful relationship in your life… especially now that you are reduced to trolling for attention as a pro-pedophile lunatic.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

That was 2008-9. Whatever, I mean, you’ll spin anything I say.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Every time Tom starts ranting about his fucked up, petty idea of “equality” I keep thinking of the scenes in Joy Luck Club with Rose’s obnoxious husband and his list of things each of them need to pay for on the fridge, and wishing for her mother to come along and deliver a lecture about how ass-backwards the whole thing is. Just me?

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

Whatever, I mean, you’ll spin anything I say.

mild gaslighting

CassandraSays – Me too! He seems to have that same confusion between “fair and reasonable” and “literally 50-50.”

Then again he also has his little child prostitute foible that’s not even funny so ugh.

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