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Rape, mansplained at last. Thanks, anonymous dude on Reddit!

On Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit, Detective_Mills cuts through the complexities of the rape debate with this bit of wisdom, putting all those rape complaints from women in their proper perspective.

 

 

Sorry, did I say “women?” I meant “cuntbags.”

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Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
10 years ago

Rape: Non-consensual sex.

Precisely what is “sweeping, figurative, and ambiguous” about that very concise, very simple, very straightforward definition? Why is “rape: non-consensual sex but only if it involves a penis entering a vagina and only if the person with the vagina is the one who doesn’t consent” somehow more “objective” or “literal”?

How about this definition: Rape = UNWANTED sex.

Bee
Bee
10 years ago

How about this definition: Rape = UNWANTED sex.

Not really, though. Actually, even nonconsensual I have a problem with, if you’re talking about criminal/civil law. In some jurisdictions (i.e., college campuses and workplaces, which established their own rules of behavior) that could be the definition, but most states require something other than lack of consent to establish the crime of rape. Consent is an important part of the case because it’s commonly used as a defense. Lack of consent is generally proved by showing extreme intoxication (if allowed by statute), unconsciousness, or bruises, tears, or other signs of force. In essence, even though utmost resistance is no longer required as an element of rape, most courts will see lack of physical signs of force as proof of consent, rendering actual consent more or less legally meaningless.

Of course, the term rape can be used outside the courtroom, and I think that in that context, nonconsensual is a fine way to define rape. Just because someone didn’t kick and scream, forcing their rapist to choke them or pull a knife on them, doesn’t mean that they weren’t raped. Most rapists actually only use as much force as they need to, so relying on an element of force to prove rape kind of tilts the balance of justice to protect the rapist. I have a feeling that what Frenchy is getting at with his “Rape = unwanted sex” equation, though, is that fucking “regret sex” bullshit that MRMs love to pretend happens all the time, which, fuck that.

Pecunium
10 years ago

For obvious anatomical reasons, women can’t rape anyone in the pure and literal sense of the word. That’s why MRAs vilify women as “rapists” for allowing biological men under age 18 to penetrate them in consensual relationships. And why this idiot accuses women of “emotionally raping” men.

Ah… the sort of fool who pretends people long dead have the only say in what a word means. Who fails to accept the changes which culture wrings.

So let’s look at the dictionary:

rape

1  rape pronunciation noun, verb, raped, rap·ing.
noun

1. the unlawful compelling of a person through physical force or duress to have sexual intercourse.

2. any act of sexual intercourse that is forced upon a person.

3. statutory rape.

4. an act of plunder, violent seizure, or abuse; despoliation; violation: the rape of the countryside.
5. Archaic. the act of seizing and carrying off by force.
verb (used with object)
6. to force to have sexual intercourse.
7. to plunder (a place); despoil.
8. to seize, take, or carry off by force.

verb (used without object)

9. to commit rape.

Origin:
1250–1300; (v.) Middle English rapen < Anglo-French raper < Latin rapere to seize, carry off by force, plunder; (noun) Middle English < Anglo-French ra(a)p(e), derivative of raper

So the, “pure and literal meaning” of rape is to steal shit, and your, “objective” meaning is mean to make rape so narrowly defined as to make it something you can avoid being guilty of so long as you don’t use, “force”, even if you use pressure, and don’t get consent.

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