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Reddit’s TwoXChromosomes subreddit overrun with angry dudes

A group portrait of TwoXChromosomes regulars on Reddit?

As “activists,” Men’s Rights Activists seem to be good at only two things: harassing people, and flooding comment sections of websites with their endlessly repeated half-dozen talking points. On Reddit, for example, the local MRAs have been quite the little imperialists, invading a number of gender-related subreddits (like r/equality and r/egalitarian) and turning them essentially into r/mensrights-lite, which has effectively meant killing them. (The recently started r/masculism – an attempt to do Men’s Rights on Reddit without all the misogyny – doesn’t have a chance.)

Well, now the MRA invaders on Reddit seem to have set their sights on a much bigger target: the TwoXChromosomes subreddit. Yep, they’re trying to turn Reddit’s central hangout for the ladies into a boys club.

2XC– an explicitly female-oriented forum on a site (Reddit) heavily dominated by dudes — has always been a strange place. Though I am myself, obviously, a dude, I used to read it fairly regularly, finding it a welcome respite from all the “sammich” jokes and other idiot misogyny so pervasive elsewhere on Reddit. At the time, 2XC had a (completely unwarranted) reputation amongst the Reddit crowd  as an evil place full of feminazi man-haters.

Then something started happening to 2XC. That thing was dudes. And not just any dudes – MRA dudes. Regulars on r/mensrights started linking to threads in 2XC and invading en masse, downvoting anything vaguely feminist and spewing forth their standard litanies of complaint. Some of these invaders decided to stay. And so, these sporadic raiding parties turned into a sort of occupation.

No, 2XC – despite the growing number of MRA residents, including a few female MRAs – has not turned into another r/mensrights. But at times, especially when the discussion turns to some MRA pet issue, the place looks a lot like dude central.

Case in point: this 2XC thread, expertly dissected by NauticalLittleNet in ShitRedditSays. The story: a woman posts a picture of her Halloween costume on Reddit and is bugged by a rude, creepy comment referring to her breasts (something that happens approximately ten zillion times a day on Reddit). So she posts the pic again to 2XC, hoping for sympathy. Instead, she’s treated to a barrage of comments mocking her for her alleged “persecution complex.” As NauticalLittleNet shows, the overwhelming majority of the obnoxious comments (all of which garnered numerous upvotes) were from dudes, many of them MRAs.

Naturally, this sort of thing – which happens pretty regularly on 2XC – has totally changed the dynamic of the subreddit from something that was sort of a haven for Reddit women to just another subreddit overflowing with obnoxious dudery.

As a Redditor called emmster noted recently in r/feminist, some women in 2XC have basically stopped posting anything vaguely feminist for fear of being jumped on by argumentative dudes:

I’ll be getting downvoted to Hell in the comments, but get PMs that are supportive from women who feel too afraid of the judgment and vitriol to jump in. I don’t love knowing there are women afraid to voice their opinions in a space that’s for women.

Honestly, I think the sustained r/MensRights invasion is what’s taking the largest toll. It’s like they can’t stand the idea that women have a space that’s active and popular, and they have to come ruin it.

And it doesn’t help that, as Donna_Juanita noted in the same discussion, some of the 2XC mods have essentially bent over backwards to accommodate the MRA invaders and to clamp down on feminists allegedly causing “drama.”

In ShitRedditSays, emmster offers a broader take on what’s happened to 2XC

Since young men are a majority on the site as a whole, and a pretty hefty number of them haven’t had the “There Are Places I Am Not Necessarily Welcome to Pontificate on My Opinion” realization, the space becomes less of a place for women, and more of a place to talk about women. Which is a pretty big distinction. And a tricky thing to keep from happening without raising the ire of the entitled, ignorant young dude contingent.

As a reddit friend of mine put it, it all started with the “Hey Ladies, What Do You Think of My Dick?” posts. When a bunch of guys started posting questions, trying to “understand women,” which of course is a flawed goal, because women, being people, have a variety of opinions and preferences, and cannot actually be understood as a group. Some of them were actually questioning preferences on penis size, hence the name of the phenomenon.

My hypothesis is that eventually, it will be nothing but men talking to men about what they think about women.

Not that there is a shortage of such spaces on Reddit, or in the world in general.

By the way, that picture above is not actually a picture of 2XC regulars. It’s a picture of the Huutajat Men’s Shouting Choir. Which is a real thing in the world. Here they are in action:

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CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

We really need our own version of Feministe’s Next Top Troll here. David, how about it?

magdelyn
10 years ago

Ohh, ohh….pick me. pick me. I know I’m not as fun as NWO and some of the others. But if you come to SF, I’ll sleep with you.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

I’m already in SF, actually…

But no, sorry, you’ve got nothing on DKM and his fantasies about a mass culling of women so they can be replaced with robots.

katz
10 years ago

That’s a tortoise!

/hasnothingtocontributebutthenneitherdoesmagdelyn

Unimaginative
Unimaginative
10 years ago

Magdelyn, I can tell that picture is supposed to have a person in it, but beyond that, I’m lost. What is the person doing? Is there a graphic for trolling?

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
10 years ago

A person? I was looking for a turtle! Should I unfocus my eyes more…?

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
10 years ago

katz, that was amazing. XD And will probably be stuck in my head all night now.

magdelyn
10 years ago

yeah…..the ascii art I stole collapsed. It was supposed to look like this: http://i.imgur.com/TMHjL.jpg

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

Also, being horny and up for lots of sex is great and all, but don’t you at least want to screen people for looks a bit before offering to fuck them?

magdelyn
10 years ago

bagelsan: “…In all fairness, last time I mistook you for this other dude troll from an entirely different blog…”

Phew! That’s a relief. I was too embarrased to say, until you mentioned the above, that I mistook you for an everything bagel with vegetable cream cheese…but not as delicious.

magdelyn
10 years ago

@CassandraSays – Well, sometimes. For instance, I prefer to sleep with black men. But, I will pretty much sleep with anyone to get what I want.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

What is it that you think you would get out of sleeping with the commenters here?

(Other than possibly an orgasm or two)

KathleenB
KathleenB
10 years ago

Mags: Even if you were into women (and I weren’t married to a man who would strangle me for sleeping with an MRA), I can pretty much guarantee that you are Not My Type.

magdelyn
10 years ago

@kathleenb – right back atcha.

xoxoxoxoxoxo

btw….i’ve slept with a bunches of broads as well

magdelyn
10 years ago

cassandra…..you realize i was being facetious. please tell me you realized that.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

That’s the thing, Maggie – most things you say here are so loopy that it’s almost impossible to tell when you might be joking. If someone sounds like they’re talking nonsense all the time, who knows the intent behind anything they say? Call it an occupational hazard of trolling.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

@ Kathleen – Yeah, I’m pretty damn shallow as far as looks are concerned, but still not shallow enough to fuck an MRA no matter what they look like. I’ve met people who were pretty much my physical ideal (it comes with the job) and still thought, nope, not fucking you even if you promise not to talk.

KathleenB
KathleenB
10 years ago

Mags: I am not a broad (although I am somewhat broad). I am, according to my Grandma after i refused to get her coffee until she put her hearing aid in, a tough dame. High praise from another tough dame.

magdelyn
10 years ago

you think i sound loop and talk nonsense allthe time? i make perfect sense to myself. but, i’ll take your word for i, because people have actually said to my face that i seem eratic and unstable. but, i always took i as a complement. good think my psychiatrist still love me. :

magdelyn
10 years ago

typing with my off hand resulted in the above jumble of letters

katz
10 years ago

OK, magdelyn has outright admitted that she just spouts crazy nonsense that nobody else can decipher. I really don’t know where the conversation can go from here.

KathleenB
KathleenB
10 years ago

Cassandra: So true. A friend met a guy at an event, they hit it off, he lived somewhat in the area, he could dance, seemed like a nice guy. Our friend was squee-ing all the way home. Next time I saw her, I asked how their first date had gone. Her: “He’s Libertarian.” Me: “Well, shit.” Her: “Yeah.”

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
10 years ago

In my case it’s usually “damn, you have lady issues” that puts me off otherwise pretty people. I mean, not allowing them to talk might help a bit, but I still know they’re fucked up. I like myself too much to have sex with anyone who doesn’t think I’m awesome and treat me accordingly.

(If they treat me wonderfully but treat other women like shit they’re eliminated on the grounds of being manipulative.)

magdelyn
10 years ago

The question, Cassandra, becomes, “Are you awesome.” Cause if you’re not…ow, that’s gotta be though.

KathleenB
KathleenB
10 years ago

Lady issues? like, what? Endometriosis? Uterine cysts? I’m stumped.

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