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Men’s Rights Redditor MrStinkybutt: Wrong about everything?

Question: Are some Men’s Rights Redditors simply incapable of being right about anything? Take this quote I ran across today from the eminent MrStinkybutt, who thinks he has the whole Herman Cain sexual harassment thing figured out.

I’m not sure what I like better, the loopy conspiracy theory or the idea that Ron Paul is a “serious candidate.”

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BlackBloc
BlackBloc
10 years ago

I’d like to discuss politics with zhinxy, seeing as ze appears to be one of the few sane libertarians I’ve met online in recent years, but I don’t want to derail.

Are you registered on the forums zhinxy?

Also, what gendered pronouns (if any ;)) would you like to be used in reference to you, and how would you self-identify your political philosophy?

(I identify as a “libertarian socialist” when going for the wider definitional range of what I believe in, “anarchocommunist of the Platformist tradition” if I need to get into specifics, and simply “anarchist” for the middle ground where I need to differentiate from, say, autonomist Marxists but don’t need to get into the fine grained stuff.)

Pecunium
10 years ago

Kyrie: Corsair (in english) has problematic issues. For example the, “corsairs” of the Barbary Coast, were more properly the actual navies of the various sultans and beys, but those people were acting in ways a trifle independently of the Sultan of the Golden Porte (that is to say the theoretical head of the Ottoman Empire).

The corsairs of the Spanish Main were semi-tolerated, but not legitimate (and were occasionally repressed as needed for European politics).

So, yes, in french, corsair = privateer, in English, not so much.

jim
jim
10 years ago

Yes, Teh Conspiracy ISREAL! This story has only been on ALL the major networks from Day One – a most devious form of soft-pedalling indeed from the Illuminati MSM!

Surely a great philosopher like “Mr. Stinkybutt” will also have an equally airtight explanation handy when they start investigating Cain’s illegal sources of funding – because nothing spells “electoral slam-dunk” quite like indictments on felony charges. How this new development will sabotage Ron Paul eludes me, but then I’m not a genius of the same calibre as “Mr. Stinkybutt.”

cynickal
cynickal
10 years ago

I can’t avoid noticing that there is no discussion of at least two cold blooded premeditated murders, committed on Presidential order, of American citizens (solely because of their religion and nationality??) without any shred of due process, any shadow of trail by jury, or any indictment or charges!

Probably because Pecunuim has handed your ass to you too many times for you to bother reading his responses to that very question.
Probably also due to the fact we’re discussing how Mr. “Shring the Governemnt until it’s small enou to fit into a woman’s uterus,” which would be on-topic rather than “A number of the existing and continuations of previous administration policies bother me, but they’re a fuck ton better than a neo-feudalist oligarchy.”

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
10 years ago

>>Yes, Teh Conspiracy ISREAL!

Favorite. Snarky. Anti. Right-wing. Meme. Ever.

Sasquatch ISRAEL!

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
10 years ago

There is an awful lot of noise concerning the issue of Ron Paul’s electability, since obviously he IS electable, or the efforts to silence him and his message would not need to be so frantic on the part of the mainstream noisemedia

Okay, so like I agree they aren’t spending a lot of time talking about him? But that’s not really silencing tactics, I think, nor does it indicate his secret power or whatever. People also spent a lot of time talking about Trump’s “electability” … and then ignored him once it was clear that wouldn’t pan out, but not because of any legitimate threat. :p

(Slightly unrelated question — do Libertarians vote? Ever?)

Sharculese
10 years ago

yeah, not giving airtime to a total clown isnt really silencing, its common sense

David K. Meller
David K. Meller
10 years ago

Pecunium has made a good many interesting responses to various posters on manboobz.com, (including myself) but I have to admit that “handing me my ass” isn;t among them!

Pecunium takes a few straw men discussing me (or any other critic or opponent of feminuttery on this blog, grabbing what amounts to a sentence or two of a post written several months ago, then stretching its meaning, wholly ignoring or denying my response or corrections to his posts, then throws a non sequitor or two in (sometimes his own, sometimes, (like my “slavery for women” or even more farfetched, my alleged and imagined eagerness for the “global extermination for women”) cited by him ad nauseum dozens of times, although I explained why that is my most farfetched scneario of likely male response to feminist domination of the world!

He may, for all that I know, be the LUCKIEST man who ever lived; surviving frontline combat support work in a unit full of women during his stint in the Army, and then, in a later post, surviving a time in an American urban ghetto!! If I had that kind of luck, I would play the lotto–that kind of good fortune has won millions of $$$$ for other spectacularly LUCKY people, but I’m, not telling anybody what to do, least of all not gambling! At any rate, his comments about me and my posts are–and always have been quite wide of the mark, and remain so. I daresay that Pecunium’s posts tell us more about him than they do about me. At any rate, they hand nobody “their ass”!

Pecunium is certiainly an interesting poster on manboobz, certainly rather above rather than below the average intelligence of manboobzers (or internet particiapants generally, I suspect) but any talk of his even debating me here, much less refuting me, is wildly overdrawn.

Skyal
Skyal
10 years ago

The FDA (& CDC) are far too entwined with the corporations they’re supposed to regulate and because of that they are definitely not doing their jobs as well as they should be. In addition, the FDA really doesn’t have enough power to do the job they’re supposed to be doing. The solution is more regulation and rules (especially regarding what jobs people in those agencies can take after they leave) not going back to letting corporations do whatever the heck they want.

The big problem is a lot of other countries’ regulatory bodies tend to follow their lead, which means when the make a bad decision (often because of too much influence from the companies they’re supposed to be policing), it can be a huge problem world wide. I’m just grateful my gov’t made it’s own decisions about bovine growth hormones & PBA in baby items (now if they’d just get off their butts & get the PBA out of everything else).

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
10 years ago

I don’t know where you live Skyal, but I get the impression that some non-US governments oppose the decisions of the FDA and/or CDC on political or economic grounds, rather than scientific grounds. Some countries freaked right out about GMOs and banned them despite none of the science suggesting that they would be harmful, because they liked rejecting these American products (safety of said products aside.) Obviously I’m not saying there aren’t good reasons for governments to differ with the US on trade/etc. but it’s not exactly because the FDA is letting dangerous products slip through that other organizations are catching.

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

Pecunium has made a good many interesting responses to various posters on manboobz.com, (including myself) but I have to admit that “handing me my ass” isn;t among them!

Are you sure? o:

Pecunium takes a few straw men discussing me (or any other critic or opponent of feminuttery on this blog, grabbing what amounts to a sentence or two of a post written several months ago, then stretching its meaning, wholly ignoring or denying my response or corrections to his posts, then throws a non sequitor or two in (sometimes his own, sometimes, (like my “slavery for women” or even more farfetched, my alleged and imagined eagerness for the “global extermination for women”) cited by him ad nauseum dozens of times, although I explained why that is my most farfetched scneario of likely male response to feminist domination of the world!

Okay, then you tell us what you mean :3 Clearly since you don’t mean what you wrote, and the words that ppl read, perhaps you should clarify! 😀

It’s easy to say “HE SAYS STUFF I DON’T MEAN” xD What DO you mean? 😀

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

He may, for all that I know, be the LUCKIEST man who ever lived; surviving frontline combat support work in a unit full of women during his stint in the Army,

What are your experiences in combat with women that make you think that he requires luck? o:

zhinxy
10 years ago

Blackbloc – I AM registered on the forums, though this is going to be a busy month for me. I’d love to talk politics with you, too. Start a thread, or whatever, I’ll come in whenever I can!

“what gendered pronouns (if any ) would you like to be used in reference to you, and how would you self-identify your political philosophy?”

“She” and “her,” and that was the easy part… heh. Let’s see… I identify as a left-libertarian market anarchist, and don’t precisely reject either “libertarian socialist” or “anarcho-capitalist” – a term I still have some affection for, even as “free market anti-capitalism” increasingly becomes the slogan of my “team.” I’m very close to adopting the “mutualist” label, but my precise theory of property is currently in flux. I tend to use either just “libertarian” or “anarchist” in everyday conversation.

Bagelsan. (Slightly unrelated question — do Libertarians vote? Ever?)

Some do and see no problem with it. Some have a moral problem with participating in electoral politics. Some of us vote defensively, despite conceding there are serious moral issues involved for a non-statist (raises hand). The voting issue is one of many divisive libertarian screeching points that causes bloody, screamy non-agressive fights.

zhinxy
10 years ago

P.S. – Meller, did you ever read Roderick Long on feminism? Do you have an answer for me on missing my point with the Rothbard quote? On the libertarian ethical issues with gold mining? Please get back to me.

Also, you seem to really want a “Bravest and Smartestest Libertarian fighting The Good Fight” badge. I think they stopped giving those out in the Harry Browne era. You might be able to pick one up on ebay.

Hershele Ostropoler
10 years ago

Myoo:

Well, NWO, from what I gathered in a superficial search, diabetes rates seem to be going up, but cancer rates are going down. I’m not sure about “pretty much every disease/ailment” , because that is a lot of diseases/ailments, many of which are viral, bacterial, genetic, or otherwise outside the scope of what the FDA could do to prevent them.

Also, disease rates are zero-sum related in such a way that if we reduce or eliminate Fatal Illness A, some of the people who would have gotten it get Fatal Illness B who would not have otherwise.

Bagelsan:

OWLslave does make a good point; back when little babies died of tainted milk and starvation (or starvation thanks to their diabetes) there were that many fewer people growing old enough to get cancer…

Exactly. That’s why I never know how to interpret “X is the leading cause of death”: there’ll always be causes of death, and one will always be on top.

Pecunium
10 years ago

Meller: re you ass…. the thing is, you aren’t the judge of ass handing. The audience is.

As to this farrago: He may, for all that I know, be the LUCKIEST man who ever lived; surviving frontline combat support work in a unit full of women during his stint in the Army, and then, in a later post, surviving a time in an American urban ghetto!! If I had that kind of luck, I would play the lotto–that kind of good fortune has won millions of $$$$ for other spectacularly LUCKY people, but I’m, not telling anybody what to do, least of all not gambling! At any rate, his comments about me and my posts are–and always have been quite wide of the mark, and remain so. I daresay that Pecunium’s posts tell us more about him than they do about me. At any rate, they hand nobody “their ass”!

It is an almost clever attempt to paint me a liar.

I suggest you look at the timelines. I’ve lived in dangerous parts of town, off and on, since moving to East LA in 1975. In 1982 I moved to a suburb, which was, in theory, safer. That’s the only time I’ve ever been mugged. In 2009 I moved to E. Palo Alto (look it it up for crime stats).

But my good fortune wasn’t so much luck, as it was that the things you believe about people, and risk, and what is/isn’t dangerous, are false. It’s not being in a poor part of town that makes one vulnerable, it’s being out of place. That’s why folks who get lost, or, “go into the wrong” part of town get robbed. They stand out.

As to the combat zone. You admit you don’t know anything about it. Here’s the secret…. everyone who gets out of combat alive is lucky bastard. Everyone who gets out of it in one piece is a lucky bastard.

Everyone who gets out with only minor wounds, is a lucky bastard. Combat zones are mostly luck. Stick your head up in the wrong place, buy a farm. Ride in the wrong seat of the vehcicle today, buy a farm. Take a shit when the mortars start to fall, buy a farm.

Some things (like not sticking your head up in the same place twice, or wearing your body armor to the shitter) can increase the odds, if you get unlucky, but it’s all about luck.

Soldiers are fatalistic, because, when all is said and done, it’s all luck and every one of us was a walking corpse, from the day we got their, to the day we were given our life back by rotating home.

Butgo ahead, claim a victory. It doesn’t matter. Because the big win, the one that matters, is the one you are losing. There won’t be a repression. There will never be a fluffy compliant woman for everyone.

They do exist you know. You can go to the Gorean lifestyle websites and see other men, living the life you want. Somehow, however, it seems you fail even at that. Even when there is proof that women who want what you want exist… they don’t want you.

(p.s. care to acutally answer the points, re things like the FDA, and that you are saying the fox is a good guard for the henhouse, because he has an interest in not killing all the chickens?)

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
10 years ago

@zhinxy: I was just wondering because it seems like that would make electing a libertarian president really difficult if he’s primarily appealing to hardcore libertarian types, some of whom are morally opposed to voting. :p

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