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Arnold: Alpha male, or … girly man?

Grr. Argh.

Ok, MRA/MGTOW/PUA dudes, I’m trying my best to understand the whole Alpha-Beta-Omega thing, really I am. But then you guys make comments like this one from Avenger, found recently on The Spearhead:

Arnold is by no means an Alpha (except in the films lol) In real life he was a muscle bound steroid using meathead in a “sport” that was associated with homosexuals until recently. You’ll notice that he always speaks English and never German even when talking to the German speaking press. That’s because his accent is so bad that they laugh at him.I guess he thinks he can hide it in English where people just assume it’s an ordinary German accent) He sounds like some yokel in German. Sort of like a German Gomer Pyle lol

And no Alpha would permit their wife to go on some talkshow.

I’m not sure how exactly someone who uses “lol” in his comments got to be the final arbiter of Alphaness, but what do I know?

So, please, guys, just explain to me what exactly defines alphaness? (Aside from forbidding wives to go on talk shows.) If Arnold — a giant muscular actor dude with lots of money who was only just recently the governor of a pretty big state — isn’t an alpha, then who exactly is.

Here’s a list of dudes that I think most people who believed in the whole “greek system” would define as Alphas. If any of them aren’t alphas, please tell me why.

Brad Pitt

Genghis Kahn

Barack Obama

Charles Atlas

Superman

Bill Clinton

Donald Trump

Mystery (the PUA)

John Wayne

The Situation

Ice-T

Margaret Thatcher

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law1204
law1204
10 years ago

“At some point, when you’re rich and famous enough, ‘alpha’ is simply automatic, regardless of your social status or looks.”

Oh, ok, so does that mean Oprah Winfrey is an alpha?

And Brad Pitt can’t be an alpha, he’s raising kids that not only aren’t his, they’re not even his wife’s. Biologically speaking.

Nobby
10 years ago

Ah, i see. The Greek system applies always. Except when it doesn’t!

Johnny Pez
10 years ago

Brad Pitt isn’t an alpha, but Johnny Depp very definitely is. Not only are there hundreds of millions of women who look upon him with lust in their hearts, but he plays a fucking pirate, and you can’t get more alpha than a pirate.

law1204
law1204
10 years ago

I never understood the lust for Johnny Depp. I guess he’s mildly attractive. And pirates ARE cool. I never understood the lust for Brad Pitt, either. I just don’t find either one all that hot.

Now Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs? Hott diggity damn. 🙂

Johnny
Johnny
10 years ago

Wait. MRAL. One more question.

Dalai Lama. Alpha or no?

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
10 years ago

The Dalai Lama I would think doesn’t really apply, but if you need to force him into one of the categories, he is indeed an alpha. He commands the awe of women and hypothetically could definitely get around. Oprah Winfrey? Alpha. There are a lot of men who worship Oprah even though she’s not supermodel hot- again, her awe and wealth speak for themselves, transcending the need for looks. Unfortunately, us plebians don’t have that.

Also, Clark Kent is an alpha, guys. An alpha can be quiet and reserved, as long as women want him.

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
10 years ago

Well, the Pope’s definitely an alpha. The Popemobile is a sweet ride. And the way he dresses? Pure pimp.

Pecunium
10 years ago

Oh… and the comments too.

spitfire
spitfire
10 years ago

But women don’t want Clark, they want Superman 😉

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

Why can’t I have both? o_O

I mean I find both the glasses and the non glasses sexy! It’s not fair that I can’t have both! >:O It’s not the same if I just asked Clark to take off the glasses cuz he’d just look lik…

wait…

OMG

OMG

OMG

I THINK I FIGURED OUT SUPERMAN’S SECRET IDENTITY!

:OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Nanners
Nanners
10 years ago

Wait… Isn’t it weird that MRAs disparage so-called betas as “girl men” and use the term as an insult when they consider themselves to be betas? If they were alphas, they’d be getting all the sex they could possibly want from Ameriskanks and Cupcakes, wouldn’t they? I’m so confused.

schism
schism
10 years ago

Now Mike Rowe from Dirty Jobs? Hott diggity damn.

Mike Rowe’s voice can cause the Alphaest MRA to go gay.

redlocker
10 years ago

“But women don’t want Clark, they want Superman.”

Really? Damn it, spitfire, I just brought a Clark Kent cosplay set and I have to go to a con tommorrow! Now I’ll never get any poon! 😉

briget
briget
10 years ago

okay so oprah, a sixty year old fat woman is an alpha now? I thought being old and/or fat automatically made you an omega.
*brain melted out of side of head*

katz
10 years ago

Maybe if we ask MRAL about enough specific people and he admits that every single one of them happens to not fit in his scheme, he’ll realize that his made-up system doesn’t actually work.

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

I thought the Dalai Lama being an Asian male negates any alphaness he might have o_o;; But if he were female she’d be the alphaness alpha woman evar xD

a.
a.
10 years ago

I’m Austrian, and wanted to note on the issue of Mr. Schwarzenegger and language:

He does speak a regional dialect (and the fact that he has spent so much time in America hasn’t helped, it influences his speech as well). He does sound a bit strange, and yes, he’s been teased about his accent in the past.

However, he is actually understandable, as opposed to people from the western-most edge of Austria; if they speak in dialect, they are very hard to understand, and sometimes are subtitled on TV (the reason for that is that their dialects go back to allemannic German, as opposed to austro-bavarian German).

darksidecat
10 years ago

@Ami, well, hunger strikes are an effective diet, you must admit.

I feel like an asshole having thought and typed that, but I will let it stand.

darksidecat
10 years ago

Oops, wait, that is Ghandi. I should probably get some sleep…

zombie rotten mcdonald
10 years ago

he’ll realize that his made-up system doesn’t actually work.

Are you new here?

katz
10 years ago

Hey, we got him to admit that he wasn’t actually being spat on, but rather not being talked to this one time in the elevator. I have hope.

tawaen
tawaen
10 years ago

@ katz

Now, now, you’re misrepresenting the elevator event. It wasn’t “not being talked to this one time in the elevator.”

It was that she had the wrong tone and look when she said, “Hi,” back to him. You know, she didn’t give him the exact amount of respect he so clearly deserves.

Don’t deny him his oppression.

Captain Bathrobe
Captain Bathrobe
10 years ago

I think the alternative to him being shunned and spat on is infinitely worse: that she was having a bad day and her response had absolutely nothing to do with him at all. In other words, he’s just not that special.

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