The general line amongst manosphere misogynists is that American women are a bunch of stuck-up princesses whose “ginas” – that is, vaginas – tingle only in the presence of “thugs” and “alpha males.” But one YouTube ranter calling himself LogicJunkie has a somewhat different theory, as he recently explained in a note to the moderator of the Happier Abroad forums. American women, it turns out, are basically all Nazis at heart, “preoccupied with … eugenic perfection in males.” Let’s follow LogicJunkie’s, er, logic:
American females regard as a “creep” any guy who isn’t at least six feet tall, with a pronounced chin, a jock physique, and, in general, Ken doll good Aryan looks. And money is important, too, but not nearly as important as the physiological eugenics. So, in good Germanic fashion, I think what they’re mainly concerned about, is somehow being contaminated by the mere presence of the inferior. …
America is, now more than ever, a Germano-eugenicist death camp, wrapped in the facade of “capitalism” and “corporatism” and “pop culture” and blah, blah, blah. But it’s all about covertly advancing the genetic omnipresence of the Teutonic physiological ideal.
I hate to poop on LogicJunkie’s logic here but, dude, if all the women you’re meeting turn out to be eugenics-obsessed, Aryan-fetishizing Nazis, it does not therefore follow that all American women are eugenics-obsessed, Aryan-fetishizing Nazis. It may just mean you should stop cruising for chicks at Klan meetings.
True, W was V in Latin, but it was nevertheless the Latin equivalent of the Greek letter omega (lowercase ω). But let’s not argue; that’s NWO’s job.
Hehehe. The original rant amuses me to no end.
Does this mean I am failing the Germano-eugenics conspiracy by marrying a 5 foot 7 inch Jewish guy?
I certainly hope so.
Agreed. Let’s just mock his inability to distinguish between the Latin alphabet and the Greek.
Alright; I confess that might be a bit beyond the pale; David can determine. I am used to hanging at Sadly, No, where trolls get diced pretty mercilessly.
@katz
Why yes, I am arguing the etymology of your nickname discounts the truth of your arguments.
I mean surely if my arguements can be so easily discounted at my lack of ancient text, can’t yours?
The old goose/gander thingy.
Your arguments are discounted because you repeatedly made a statement that was factually false, even though you could easily verify it. That suggests that other things you say are also factually false.
Also, you continue to be unable to understand the basic points people are making here. No one ever suggested that you have to know ancient languages. We only suggested that, if you make a claim about an ancient language, then like any other statement, it should be true.
Ok, let’s go back on topic.
I am a tall guy, and I married a relatively tall woman. she once remarked that she felt a bit relieved that when wearing heels she wasn’t taller than me, but that was always because when she dated shorter men, she was more concerned for their feelings.
Of course, since we have gotten older, she has mostly gotten away from wearing heels, so it’s all moot.
And so what?
When I look down on these MRA turdwaffles, it’s not from physical height.
Oh yes, please easily dice me zombie rotten mcdonald for my pitiful spelling and poor knowlege in ancient arts.
Say, is this the stuff you gals learn in higher acedemia that makes you smart. Wait let me guess, womens studies, gender studies, gender in politics, political science, diversity theory, ancient languages, liberal arts.
Well it’s no wonder I’m outclassed in the strange ways of the world. Why you folks are learnin stuff, while the Slave muddles thru life totally unedumacated. Unk Ungalla, boobs, cars, fight. Me impressed with Greeky talk.
My mom is a little taller than my dad. He was a cross country runner in high school, but she was a hurdler. Both of them are roughly 5’9″.
I inherited my height from my mother’s side, fortunately, and ended up at 6’2″. Though really, I do judo, which is generally a shorter man’s sport. As a result, I hang out with a lot of shorter dudes who are in really excellent physical shape. These guys all, as far as I can tell, have healthier sex lives than I do.
@PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
“the point was that if you are going to be claiming I am sourcing feminist sources then you should actually check to see if they are actually feminist sources before opening your big fat mouth.”
I claimed no such thing.
Oh yes, please easily dice me zombie rotten mcdonald for my pitiful spelling and poor knowlege in ancient arts.
Oh don’t be so whiny. I hadn’t even started on your spelling and grammar.
NWO: Chemistry. But thank you for playing.
Your position is fluctuating wildly. You are alternating between claiming that book larnin’ doesn’t make you smart, and spouting what you take to be arcane details (as in your original statement) in an attempt to appear smart yourself.
Which raises an interesting subsidiary point. There are times when height is a disadvantage. In Judo, it’s generally recognized that although tall people can be quite successful, that they face a higher learning curve. It has to do with centers of gravity and being able to gain leverage on your opponent. In fact, in my observation, the martial arts seem to be dominated by guys under 6’0″.
If you look at starting running backs in the NFL, you’ll find many of them under six feet tall. Barry Sanders, for example, was a whopping 5’8″. Not a whole lot of people underestimate his physical prowess.
Actors are another class of men that seems to skew short. A lack of height certainly didn’t torpedo the careers of Al Pacino or Tom Cruise, who both come in at a whopping 5’7″.
NWOslave, do you have any further information to offer regarding the 6% figure for the decrease in pair bonding capability you mentioned earlier? What is the mechanism through which this decreasing in bonding capability manifests? I have, as yet, been unable to discover the evidence supporting this claim, nor even the data from which such evidence could have been gleaned. Before the line of inquiry was derailed by your misunderstanding of sexual dimorphism, I had asked what hormone or neurotransmitter led to this 6% cumulative decrease in pair bonding potential. Do you know what that hormone or neurotransmitter is?
Damn, I knew somebody was going to pull out this feminist utopian article, no doubt written up as something to aspire to. Hell, I’m surprised no ones pulled out the bonobo card yet.
Yes you did.
In Judo, it’s generally recognized that although tall people can be quite successful, that they face a higher learning curve. It has to do with centers of gravity and being able to gain leverage on your opponent. In fact, in my observation, the martial arts seem to be dominated by guys under 6’0″.
That’s interesting. I work in Taekwondo, and height actually IS an advantage, because it is usually attached to longer legs and reach, giving a distinct advantage.
Shorter folks, of course, have a quickness advantage also. But usually can be nullified if you don’t let them get close in.
Of course, TKD is not as ancient an art as judo, so perhaps it has developed to benefit taller folks in more recent history? I don’t have the historical knowledge.
And, of course, all of us are incredibly successful in our sexual lives. Of course.
My position hasn’t fluctuated in the least. My original statement? I tried to stay on topic but the dressing down I recieved moved by yours and other comments ranged from; Latin/Greek origins to DV to tall/short, ect, ect.
In all cases I proved inadequate and woofully overmatched. In fact, once again, it appears feminists are blameless victims, and, well, we all know who the oppressors are. Don’t we?
Johnny I like how you have to pick out ONE of the dozen-odd positions in the NFL to make a case about shorter men having an advantage.
Actors? Don’t make me laugh. Tom Cruise gets savaged for his 5’7 height in the media, made fun of constantly, and 5’7 isn’t even all that short, it’s more the shorter end of average. On the other hand, you have countless asshole alpha leading men 6’1 or 6’2. Al Pacino is a bit different because he’s a living legend, but he did it in spite of his height, not because of it, and back when he was a star women weren’t QUITE as superficial and entitled as they are now.
Height discrimination is JUST as big a deal, IMO, as racism in American society- really.
@Fatman
My understanding of sexual dimorphism is differences of males and females of the same sepecies, which would include, ohhh height, weight, strength as well as behavioral differences/abilities.
I think that pretty much covers it, no?
Getting back to the original post, I never know whether to laugh or cry when MRAs compare not getting dates with a) slavery or b) the Holocaust. Racism aside, do they have any idea how shallow and self-absorbed this makes them sound? Thirteen-year-old girls lolling melodramatically around their bedrooms, wailing that they might as well be DEAD because Taylor didn’t ask them to junior prom, have more perspective than this.
@Captain Bathrobe
So if we look at each “culture” per say with those high rates of single motherhood, hows that lookin by the way. Are things workin out like the plan. The old cannard of it takes a village to raise a child. Why not truck on down to one of those nice villages. You can put on a sexy little outfit and strut your stuff around midnight and prove to me what a rockin job this fatherless society is.
Um…OK.
(Backs away slowly)
Yeah, single parents, including *gasp* single black parents, and divorce are not actual problems, so they do not warrant concern, but, as I am an incredibly nitpicker, I feel the need to add this anyway: “single” as used by many data collection agencies is a category that means “not legally married”, whereas colloquially, “single” means “not in a long term or exclusive relationship”. So, there are actually plenty of unmarried parents who are not single in the everyday sense of the word-they live with partners who aide in the raising of the children (this includes the 20-30% of queer couples who have children). My sister’s boyfriend is in fact a stay at home father of two kids under five, referring to those kids as “fatherless” or assuming their father is uninvolved simply because the parents (who have been together eight years) are unmarried is absurd. This trend of unmarried coupling is higher in lower income communities because US welfare grants a household with two unmarried adults and one child greater benefits than a household with a married couple and one child.
Another thing worth noting is that divorced parents who are not remarried are generally grouped in as single or unmarried parents, so a person who has four kids within a marriage and then divorces counts as a single parent along with the person who never marries. So, looking at that data collection issue, it is really a truism that higher divorce rates go hand in hand with higher rates of single parenthood.
Getting back to the original post, I never know whether to laugh or cry when MRAs compare not getting dates with a) slavery or b) the Holocaust. Racism aside, do they have any idea how shallow and self-absorbed this makes them sound? Thirteen-year-old girls lolling melodramatically around their bedrooms, wailing that they might as well be DEAD because Taylor didn’t ask them to junior prom, have more perspective than this.
They really are the ultimate drama queens. The difference between them and 13 year-old girls is that 13 year-old girls outgrow the tendency to be drama queens. These guys apparently never do.
woofully
ummm….David, can I start mocking spelling errors now? Cuz that one is sublime.
@zombie
Well, Judo itself is only a little over a hundred years old. Though, it was derived from Ju-Jitsu, which is of course ancient.
The secret to many Judo techniques is the simple adage, “more pull, get lower”. Many throws are dependent upon getting your belt lower than the other player’s belt, as a general rule anyway. Obviously if I’m a 6’2″ guy grappling with a 5’6″ guy, it’s quite difficult to drop down that far. Generally, you end up depending on leg and foot sweeps, which in my experience generally have a higher learning curve than other techniques.
I can probably count on one hand the number of times I’ve played a guy my height or taller in a tournament. So if I’m playing in the 178-198 lbs. and weight class at 6’2″, I’m generally going to be facing other guys who are 198, but are like 5’7″, and so are generally physically stronger. I tend to find that the strength is a much greater advantage than the height. I have to fight in a freakin’ crouch.
So hey, short guys. Stop whining, take up Judo and Brazilian Ju-Jitsu.
Hooray for martial arts related derail.
@darksidecat:
Incidentally, it also includes my brother, his lovely daughter, and her mother.