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Christchurch mosque shootings: The Aftermath (Twitter roundup/open thread)

 March 15, 2019
  · 115 Comments
Flowers punned to the gate of one of the mosques targeted in yesterday’s shooting

By David Futrelle

From Twitter, some thoughts about the horrific tragedy yesterday in Christchurch — and just who is responsible for creating the toxic environment in which this sort of murderous right-wing Islamophobic extremism thrives.

At some point I hope to have regular posts up on this horrendous subject but right now I just can’t.

You know who doesn't hate using the words "invasion" and "invaders" to refer to immigrants? The NZ shooters; the words appears 53 times in their manifesto.

Trump moved quickly from a rote condemnation of the terrorists to using the exact same hateful rhetoric the terrorists use https://t.co/t491w1PrHN

— David Futrelle (@DavidFutrelle) March 15, 2019

Here is a sitting Congressman referencing the same contemptible, false, evil theory that drove today’s murder’s in New Zealand; the marchers in Charlottesville; and the Pittsburgh gunman. https://t.co/wqvb0Fpplv

— Talia Lavin (@chick_in_kiev) March 15, 2019

Really not that much of a difference between the rhetoric about "the great replacement" in the shooter's manifesto (conveniently titled "The Great Replacement") and the anti-immigrant shit Tucker Carlson peddles every night on Fox. https://t.co/7uJIMuNXsf

— David Futrelle (@DavidFutrelle) March 15, 2019

The New Zealand mosque shooter appears to have been radicalized online. He reportedly posted his plans to 8chan (see below), and a manifesto reportedly written by him refers to the far-right conspiracy theory about "white genocide" (see below).

1/ pic.twitter.com/fVPbWWTkT9

— Caroline Orr (@RVAwonk) March 15, 2019

You helped to foster the toxic racist culture that formed him. You tried to block refugees at sea. You are in part responsible for these murders. https://t.co/ze1bW2MNP2

— David Futrelle (@DavidFutrelle) March 15, 2019

FYI, the 'Great Replacement' – cited by the Christchurch terrorist – isn't some sort of niche theory relegated to 8chan & other image boards. It's a theory peddled by verified users on this site. pic.twitter.com/fmFxJjXYZK

— Mike Stuchbery💀🍷 (@MikeStuchbery_) March 15, 2019

Oh I'm sure pic.twitter.com/w2f96B8RPy

— mahou femcel🤡 findom earle (@coherentstates) March 15, 2019

city journal: the mosque shooter was 1) not a white supremacist and 2) had a "legitimate concern" pic.twitter.com/sQUtJHLPEU

— Christian Vanderbrouk (@UrbanAchievr) March 15, 2019

In other words: "The way to fight terrorism is to do exactly what the terrorists are advocating which by the way I totally agree with." https://t.co/b0KkXkZG9a

— David Futrelle (@DavidFutrelle) March 15, 2019

when you've never created any content espousing your opinion on Islam pic.twitter.com/90WPKoVPYX

— Aunt Becky With The Good Bribes (@shamtley) March 15, 2019

won’t someone think of the real victim here, pewdiepie https://t.co/BimZl0amAN

— Talia Lavin (@chick_in_kiev) March 15, 2019

Oh, I wonder what the Crying Nazi has to say about the Christchurch mosque shooting…. pic.twitter.com/puhPMOT8V1

— Non-Player Character. Safely Ignored. (@danieleharper) March 15, 2019

guys guys see here in the manifesto of the guy who just killed 50 people in a mosque, where it says this grotesque racist thing? total sarcasm , very common on a forum known as 4ch

— josh (@lyftrs) March 15, 2019

All the disgusting ugly bullshit that idiots talk about on the internet because they think it's naughty and because the internet isn't real invariably makes its way into the real world. The idea that any of it is ever Just A Joke isn't tenable at this point.

— David Roth (@david_j_roth) March 15, 2019

“By criticising the ideology of the Christchurch shooter, you are doing what he wants” – every right-wing social media “personality” who definitely doesn’t share the shooter’s ideology, but is being weirdly defensive about the whole thing for some reason.

— free chelsea manning, lock up assange (@2damntrans) March 15, 2019

Yeah also *definitely* don't mention that he specifically cited your dad as inspiration https://t.co/bfTTeUl1z5

— andi zeisler (@andizeisler) March 15, 2019

[i shit my pants] it’s important that we don’t discuss that shit smell. that’s what the shit wants

— chair admirer (@KrangTNelson) March 15, 2019

I remember being 13 and parroting 4chan jokes I'd heard from friends without understanding what they fed into.
You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago. You can just stop being part of the problem right now. You can just stop.

— ally mclean 🔮 (@allymcleangames) March 15, 2019

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  1. Scanisaurus says:
    March 20, 2019 at 5:29 am

    @Schildfreya
    Thanks for the welcome!
    Yeah, Sweden feels like it’s going downhill thanks to all the racist and misogynistic rhetoric around it and now more and more swedes buying into it themselves and giving power to far-right parties, and the new leader for the conservative party (picture a Serena Joy in a page-boy haircut, whom literally wrote an entire book on Islam being a rape-culture) is gaining popularity, and I wish more people online were willing to speak up whenever someone tries to use Sweden as a deterring example.

    @Lainy
    I wish I could help, if only with kind words. What you’re going through sounds awful and I hope you’ll take care of yourself and stay safe.

    Reply
  2. Cat Mara says:
    March 20, 2019 at 8:10 am

    Oh, dear Flying Spaghetti Monster, some ambulatory turd in shoes just walked into a vigil for the mosque shooting in Toronto in a damn MAGA hat!

    https://twitter.com/blogTO/status/1107996098214445057

    (h/t to Mish who retweeted a link to this)

    Reply
  3. Diego Duarte says:
    March 20, 2019 at 8:55 am

    @Cat Mara

    I was reading about that yesterday. The guy’s smirk seems to mirror the Convington asshole’s. This is just like that other float the Trumpanzees drove around the vigil with a huge “Build the Wall” message.

    They know very well what they are doing. Not only are they mocking the pain of the victim’s and their relatives, they are also trying to pull a power move by discouraging us through humiliation. They want us to know that not only do they not give a fuck about what just happened to 50 innocent people: they are elated by it and there’s nothing we can do about it.

    This tactic also doubles as a means to promote more violence, because the perceived weakness of their political opponents empowers them. They are essentially signalling that it is okay to start moving into more serious stuff. The shooter literally believed that he would be released after a conservative revolution overthrew liberal and progressive governments. Many more are starting to buy into that narrative.

    If there’s no pushback against Hate Speech, then you can bet it’s only going to get worse from here on out. Justin Trudeau seems on the right path. I can only hope they start banning and jailing anyone trying to promote “White genocide” or “Cultural Marxism” conspiracy theories.

    Reply
  4. Lainy says:
    March 20, 2019 at 9:52 am

    Thank you all for the wonderful advice and kind words

    Reply
  5. Dalillama says:
    March 20, 2019 at 1:11 pm

    @Lainy

    Adding my voice to the recommendation you ask your football player friend to have a word with this fellow. If he’s a decent fellow he won’t consider it an imposition at all. I got good use from a similar technique dealing with homophobic bullying when I was in school. He was a martial artist, not a football player, but he was still built like a brick wall.

    Reply
  6. Bookworm in hijab says:
    March 20, 2019 at 4:05 pm

    @ Lainy,

    the open thread was about the shooting and my problems seemed so small compared to it. If I derailed anything I’m sorry and I formly apologize to Bookworm in a Hijab if I did. The horrific crimes committed against Muslim people are far greater then anything I could be dealing with and I really hope I didn’t take away from that.

    No, no, NO!! I read your comment and I skipped right down to the end so I could reply to you. (I’ve been staying offline so I’d missed all this.)

    I am SO GLAD you’ve been telling everyone what’s going on. You have a right to feel safe. Your safety doesn’t take away from mine; you deserve to be cared for and listened to. We all need to have each other’s backs, and our own.lives don’t suddenly become easy when a tragedy happens to others. Your creepy stalker won’t stop out of respect for the Muslim victims in NZ; if you can come here to seek advice and support,you should! Hugs to you. Stay safe (is it ok if I pray for that for you?)

    Now I’ll go read the rest of the comments…

    Reply
  7. Lainy says:
    March 20, 2019 at 5:11 pm

    My friend dropped me off at work today and he’s going to pick me up as well. He’s going to have a talk to my co-worker which basically means he’s going to use his height and muscles to make the little worm squirm. Let me tell you, he is not happy that I didn’t take his flower home with me. I should have grinded it down with my shoe.

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  8. IgnoreSandra says:
    March 20, 2019 at 5:18 pm

    I’m glad you did throw his flower on the ground, and that you got out of that okay. Also that your friend is going to make him squirm. Also that he is very unhappy, as he deserves to be. The most important thing is your safety.

    Reply
  9. Lainy says:
    March 20, 2019 at 8:37 pm

    It went well and I have found my new best friend. Weapons that look like hair accessories.

    Reply
  10. kupo says:
    March 20, 2019 at 9:07 pm

    @Lainy
    Ooooh, neat!

    Reply
  11. Diego Duarte says:
    March 20, 2019 at 9:15 pm

    Glad it went well for you. Hopefully he starts respecting your personal space.

    Reply
  12. Lainy says:
    March 21, 2019 at 10:08 am

    I just want to thank you all again for helping me out and listening to me rant. Having my fears validated made me feel like I wasn’t crazy or oversensitive. I also had a few funny parts to the story I wanted to share incase you might enjoy. My friend that dropped me off and picked me up and gave my coworker a talk is a big guy but he’s like the softest teddy bear of a man you could ever imagine. For me to watch him try to be threatening was kind of funny. Also he drives a really big black, four door pick up with these dark windows. I was teasing him about how he looked super sus coming to a dance studio at 9 o’clock at night that teaches little girls and boys ballet. I must have made him parioniod because when I came into the front offices part when it was time to leave he was standing there talking to the lady who runs the front desk with his phone out. I walked in to see him showing pictures of his little sister to her and being like “this is my baby sister whom I love very much, she used to do ballet but she changed it out for basketball instead. She’s going into the 7th grade, she’s not smiling very much in this picture because of her braces, not because she’s unhappy or anything” which I found really funny because she was like half paying attention to him and this gaint 6’4 of a man was trying so hard to look like he wasn’t a creeper hanging around here while he waited on me.

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  13. Bookworm in hijab says:
    March 21, 2019 at 3:04 pm

    Lainy, I’m so glad for you! Stay safe; hopefully this guy will be scared off now. I think it’s great that you’ve been able to call on your friend to have your back. Please keep us updated on the situation. *hugs*

    @ all, a friend told me about what NZ is doing; hope this link works! Thanks to all Kiwis involved in this, and to everyone who stands up against hate.❤ Tomorrow I’ll be going back to my local mosque for the first time since the attack; it’s scary but I think it’s necessary that we all stay strong.

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjR6YzIgpThAhWEY98KHVmvAxIQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.net.au%2Fnews%2F2019-03-22%2Fnew-zealand-comes-to-standstill-week-after-christchurch-shooting%2F10926674&psig=AOvVaw1rNGqhk7LCmu2rZSBjL_Zk&ust=1553284701368839

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  14. opposablethumbs says:
    March 21, 2019 at 5:24 pm

    @Bookworm in hijab, I hope your day tomorrow is full of peace and solidarity.

    Reply
  15. Onager says:
    March 21, 2019 at 5:24 pm

    @Lainy glad to hear it worked out. Getting a big guy involved can be tricky as you never know the other man’s balance of cowardice and ego, but your friend being nice deep down will have helped manage the situation. In the end it might just be what was required was a demonstration that this was being taken seriously and you had friends watching your back. Which should surely be the default but your story demonstrates it still isn’t and we, as a society, have got to do better looking out for each other.

    @Bookworm you, and all Muslims, will be in our thoughts tomorrow.

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