Most misogynists, it would seem, are loath to admit that they’re misogynists. “How can you say I hate women?” they’ll ask. “After all, I love my sister. She’s not like the rest of those whores.” Or, “I just hate Western Women.” Or whatever fine distinction they like to make to pretend that their hatred of pretty much every woman they ever come across, or imagine in their overheated little brains, is something other than misogyny.
Then there are those who not only admit their misogyny but who are downright proud of it, thinking it’s a sign of their own personal superiority. Today, a pretty good example of Proud Misogyny, taken from the reactionary Christian blog Samson’s Jawbone.
Our intrepid woman-hater starts off by contrasting his brand of misogyny to the peculiar kind of woman-appreciation advocated by the PUA gasbag now known as Heartiste (but still known as Roissy when this post was written):
Roissy is fond of saying that he’s not a “misogynist”; no, learning the unvarnished truth about female psychology has given him a *higher* appreciation for women. Not so for me. Sociosexual philosophy has disillusioned me beyond all reckoning. Peering deep into the psyche of woman has rendered me grievously scornful in feeling and mercilessly unscrupulous in behaviour towards these unholy, ungodly beings. I venture to say that… I hate them. Yes, I hate them! And how could I not?
Did I mention that he has literary pretensions as well? Like a lot of reactionaries, Mr. Jawbone has adopted a melodramatic, vaguely archaic prose style that he evidently feels is the height of literary sophistication, but which sounds a lot more like the monologuing of some cartoon villain.
Oh, the vile criteria by which women judge menfolk! O, abominable, loathsome beings!
Is anyone else reminded of Newman from Seinfeld?
But Mr. Jawbone is just getting started:
A creature so damnably constituted as to admire a man for his “social dominance” – by which is meant his ability to waltz through an absurd series of meaningless, contrived riddles – rather than his work ethic, his self-sacrifice, his affability, his charity, his honesty, his justice – in short, his righteousness and integrity; such a creature deserves to be used and abused like a cheap street harlot – or better yet, a vermin-ridden ass – and discarded appropriately. Nothing more; she merits nothing better.
Here’s an actual vermin-ridden ass, having a nice scratch in the dirt:
Oh, but Mr. Jawbone isn’t done yet:
Words like “honour”, “duty”, “kindness”… those things that define goodness and rightness… all meaningless, meaningless to this wretched, wicked half of the human race. And do women who profess belief in something “higher”; women who should know better, afford any solace? No. Instead they show themselves as fraudulent, fickle hellcats who think good men are “weak”. So alas, I can no longer view the distaff horde with anything besides revulsion and contempt. They perjure themselves by their own words; they are beasts, deserving nothing but callous treatment and damnation; and I can wish nothing upon them but furious hatred, ignominy and a miserable passing.
What a cheery fellow!
I take no joy in penning the above – but I feel clean and spotless as the lamb. What else is to be said for a lot that believes black to be white, up to be down, and good men to be worthless? Poor Ashley Wilkes, and all good men.
Hate to break it to you, dude, but you’re not actually a good man. You’re a pompous dickbag. Oh, sorry, you’re a base, proud, shallow, beggarly, three-suited, hundred-pound, filthy, worsted-stocking knave!
(Thanks to Shakespeare for that last insult, and to Quackers for pointing me to Mr. Jawbone’s post.)
I honestly believe that unsweet tea is the best thing ever. Fact, harpies!
Yeah, like people hate you because of the label, rather than your actual actions. You could call yourself whatever you feel like: Lover of True Women, Lord of Mantopia, Or Sir FluffyMcKittykins of the Order of the Tiny Meow. Still wouldn’t make…
…anything other than stupid hateful bigotry.
What’s with the melodrama lately, anyway? Seems like there have been less “we will fight them in the universities!” rants and more “wah they’re all so mean, they forced me to be this much of an asshole” laments.
second that.
[carefully fits pieces of head back together]
As I work closely with a large collection of maps, I can confirm for CassandraSays that the earth is in fact flat. Because maps are flat. Except when we roll them into tubes, in which case the earth becomes tubular. And that’s real.
You know all the New Age woo about creating your own reality? Roll those maps, baby, but warn everyone first so they can find something to hold on to.
He says that from his long experience with women he knows they are certain things.
…. in what way? Because that’s a new one! Tell us more about the creep-tastic encounters you have had where they dehumanized you, objectified you, treated you reductively as just a means to reproduction, etc.
Oh, wait.
…and that’s why all the billionaires are…
Wait….
I have nothing amusing to say here.
Ooooh, that’s where all those stereotypes about them being more nurturing come from! I see it now!
I always say (I really always say this) ‘bitch’ just means ‘woman with an opinion.’ I’ve yet to hear it used differently.
Your usage does nothing to change my mind.
Mark Minter, stop making a mockery of the male gender.
Greatest typo to see after that tantrum
*claps @ howard bannister’s post*
wait till the mrm hears he’s using such shaming language. 😛
/sarcasm
lol, shaming language. that’s their favorite way to shirk responsibility for their shitty behavior and statements.
Can’t stop formatting, block monster will get me can’t stop formatting block monster will get me can’t stop…
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Woman Hater,
No, we throw it around sort of like the phrase “racist” – a phrase no thinking person would really want to be associated with, it’s an attempt at classifying problematic behavior by pointing out a mindset that has a concrete, underlying and solid definition. I honestly believe that words have meaning. Misogynist means “Hater of Women” or “Woman Hater”, it imparts a description of behavior…
… Oh. Oh, sorry Mr. Minter I thought you didn’t know what the word you were using meant. You clearly do. I apologize for my early patronizing tone. It’s just that we often get people here who assume somehow that words mean nothing beyond some kind of common intention as a way of overlaying sounds to describe the world, and I’m so glad to know you’re not one of those people who assumes he can just haphazardly weasel out of things on some solipsist grounding. That’d be sophistry…
Sort of like Racist, something that the thinking man, the educated men would never wished to be levied at him.
Oh! Hey! We agree. Awesome. Racism is bad. Inherent, institutional oppression is bad. Why, Mr. Winter, you’re quite the feminist!
And quite the anatomist as well, it seems. We frown on dissecting people to prove points around here though, but I guess that goes without saying. It’d be a shame if someone were to misunderstand your stated expression though and somehow twist it implicitly acknowledging that Black is a negative color oft associated with miserly things, so that someone being black hearted was somehow an expression of their inferiority, because the color, and not the activities of anyone, imparts their value and worth. But that’d be racist! And you’d never…
The fucking core. It is the core I fuck! It is where all my fucks reside! I have fucked the core. I’ve also fucked The Core, which was an awkward experience. The core fucking is the core of this issue. The Core was a fucking atrocious movie. My atrocious core fucking is fucking up the core of my argument. Apple cores lead to new apples. I’ve literally plumped the core of fucking.
I’m quite partial to Tyrion myself, too. Jokes aside though, awesome. I’m glad you engage in mutually benefit experiences with several people and that the experience left a tangible mark on your soul. I’m so glad you wouldn’t take the terribly misogynist approach of boiling the complexities of other people down to a number you can banter around with your associates around the fire, because we both know that people are more than that. You, a thinking, rational not racist man wouldn’t ever succumb to that kind of bias of thinking. That’d be weird!
Awesome. Did you cure ovarian cysts yet? If not, I’d advice you to use your superior knowledge of female everything to benefit mankind by researching and developing cures for the many ailments that plague people of general anatomy comparable to baseline female! A proper task for a rational, thinking man.
Sweet, keep preaching it sister! Smash the Patriarchy!
And everyone else in the middle! Segregation, it worked for Apartheid, it’ll work for us! Oh-ho-ho, see how we cleverly twist the expectation of people by explicitly stating that racism is a thing no one wants to be associated with but still profess support for segregation based on an arbitrary feature of physicality?
I thought you weren’t a misogynist. Didn’t you just say you weren’t? You actually agree that the term misogynist describe things in a specific way so tuned to a key meaning you can use the phrase “misogynist accusations” in an attempt to convey meaning? But that’d mean accepting it exists. Mr. Minter, your feminism is showing. Please hide it.
Yes. This site, dedicated to mocking misogyny, defends misogynists.
Alt:
Yes. We defend women because we don’t know them. We are powerful in our ignorance. Surely, no rational, thinking person would look at the evidence arranged before their eyes, come to conclusion based there-on and make up their minds and thoughts based on those notions which they see reinforced every second of every day. Knowing things only brings misery. Be like me! Be ignorant.
It also gives you a great discount at lettuce shopping, and being a woman hater gives a +3 bonus to telling plait from knitwork. It’s realistic approach to systemizing bullshit in lieu of reality also means you can know physics better than people who don’t hate women.
Oh-ho-ho, Mr. Minter, what a clever joke! Insinuating you, a rational, thinking, non racist feminist would ever need to rely on “cred” with “the fellows”, as if everything was just some arbitrary scoring used to secure bragging rights with the other people in your little club. Good joke. Why! Next you tell me you’re keeping “Score” on your “number” and that it “dwarfs” the “average man”, because that’s a distinction of value amongst your people. You’re a cad, Sir! A right jester.
Oh-ho-ho. I see how this works. You’re keeping up the pretense of needing the approval of others because you’re into the whole “alpha-beta-omega-theta-zeta-petaflop” thing. Well, not to worry. I too like being slammed by others in an attempt to gain more cred. And that sentence means just that. So we see eye to eye! Ah, we alpha people must stick together, because if not, the whole system of begging approval falls apart.
Toddles Mr. Minter! Have a great, mutually beneficial interaction with a lego on your way out! I approve of your activities, just in case you ever wonder, and by coming here you’ve won great “cred” with me. It’s refundable for tokens of supreme sarcasm. Carry on your fantastic work of being completely rational, thinking, correct-in-usage-of-every-term-ever everywhere.
Incidentally, does coming here and being obvious about your intentions tie into the “don’t reject me” game?
I was feeling lazy today, so I turned Mark’s comment into a post!
http://manboobz.com/2013/04/05/proud-woman-hater-declares-war-on-the-dictionary/
Why do they always have to include a claim to have gotten a lot of sex? Isn’t that like Godwin’s for MRAs?
Well that’s a fact XD
Words! What are they and how do they work?
@Amanda.
if they got lots of sex it proves they know women because women only sleep with you if you manipulate or trick them into it, not, you know, because they want to have sex.
to manipulate someone you must know them. (at least, my guess for why they think like that. I have no idea what manipulating someone requires, and it is not something I want to know)
/sexist logic
Ooh! Ooh! Mr. Minty, Mr. Minty! Pick me, pick me!
I’m a woman. Do you hate me? Why or why not?
You’d think that Minty would have something fresher to say.
Write an essay on it, Mr minty. 5 paragraphs at least. And he still hasn’t told me what I’m thinking 🙁
@Marie
You’re thinking evil, no doubt. (Citation: Kramer & Sprenger)
And somehow I managed to cut off the bit that said, “Well played, Karalora”
And I want you to believe anything that I say.
And I want you to believe anything that you do, yeah
And the beauty of the black heart, is the light shining heart
And the light is you
And the light is you
And the light is you.