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Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge arrested for death threats against police [UPDATE 3]

Eivind Berge and police

Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge, known for his violent rhetoric and rape apologia, has been arrested for death threats against police.

Not too surprising, given that he once announced on his blog that “[k]illing at least one cop is on my bucket list.”

Here are some Google-translated details from a news account here:

The right-wing extremist and anti-feminist blogger Eivind Berge has been arrested for having encouraged and glorified the killing of policemen. The police have found both ammunition and textbooks in use of explosives at Berge.

The police regard the threats as an invitation to others to kill police officers, but also feared that he would commit the acts themselves shortly.

He was evidently arrested on Wednesday. According to this story — at least as far as I can tell from the obviously crude Google translation — he made a specific threat to kill a police officer this Saturday:

Berge also writes about how he was planning to attack a policeman with a knife on a Saturday evening:

“Then I used the trial to come forward as a good example for men, and I considered it to be worth 21 years in prison for premeditated murder.”

According to this account, Berge is being held for two weeks. He claims innocence.

Berge, as readers of this blog may well already know, is a fan of right-wing terrorist and mass murderer Anders Brevik. On his blog, he’s also argued (among other things) that “Rape is Equality.”

He’s glorified the murder of police on his blog numerous times.

Some examples, taken from the second news account:

“… attack on the police is something 100% in harmony with everything I stand for.”

“I maintain that police murder is both ethically and tactically correct.”

Some other examples, direct from his blog (each paragraph is from a separate post; click on the quote for the source):

I viscerally despise cops and wish them the worst. Killing at least one cop is on my bucket list.

If ever a victim of psychiatry, here is what I would do. I would first attempt to kill the cops or whoever tried to apprehend me. Failing that, I would feign docility in order to get out as soon as possible and then kill a representative of the industry as revenge. … killing cops is also very much a men’s issue. Every pig killed is also a blow against feminism, so men should be doubly elated whenever an officer goes down in the line of encroaching on our cognitive liberty.

[I]f you are a victim of psychiatry, it is probably in your best interest (as well as a publicly beneficial act of activism) to kill a guard or cop in order to get a fair public trial and possibly escape treatment before it ruins your health completely.

Rather than cowering in fear of the police, I assumed a warrior mentality and started hating law enforcement. I really, really wanted to hurt those responsible for enacting and enforcing feminist sex law.

This was his reaction to a news story about a police officer being killed:

Good news for men is rare in this hateful feminist utopia that is Norway, but today is a joyous day! Today I feel schadenfreude in my heart along with all the hate that feminism and resultant mate deprivation have instilled in me. One blue thug less on the streets.

From another post on the same subject:

The swine Olav Kildal died while trying to enforce our lack of cognitive liberty. This was a defensive, much deserved killing that cheered me up.

Here he threatens a female prosecutor:

To feminist prosecutor Anne Cathrine Aga I have the following message: The Men’s Movement is watching you, bitch, and we are seething with hatred against you personally and the police state you represent. Actions have consequences. Trials are still (mostly) public and they sink into our collective minds, where they form the basis of future activism. Hate breeds hate — that is a fact of life too smugly ignored by feminists. …

2011 is the year Norwegian men as a group emerged out of the blogosphere and into the battlefield. This in turn has led to a breakthrough for MRAs such as my good self in the public discourse, probably for the simple reason that the powers that be now realize ignoring us has deadly consequences. Men are angry now, and we have proven that we are deathly serious about resisting feminism. So the feminist prosecutors referred to above ought to wipe that smug look off their faces before it is too late. Clearly seventy-seven body bags wasn’t enough, but I am fairly confident that you will be sorry one day.

Aside from the explicit threats of violence, the violent and threatening rhetoric here is not unlike much of the rhetoric we see regularly on A Voice for Men and other MRA sites. AVFM founder Paul Elam, for example, told one feminist that:

I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea of fucking your shit up gives me an erection. … We are coming for you.

The blogger Emma the Emo, Berge’s girlfriend, has posted comments here in the past defending him. The news account quotes someone identified as Nataliya Kochergova, described as his girlfriend; I assume this is “Emma,” because what she told the media is similar to what she posted here. She of course denies that he planned any real violence. According to the article, she said:

There are not really threats. He has never had plans to kill someone, he has said several times in his blog. When for example, he says that “the police killings are an effective way to prevent stupid laws,” it’s a factual description and not a threat. Even those who love the police agree with it.

Berge, for his part, has stated publicly that if he had not met Emma, he probably would have killed by now:

At the time I wrote my last blog post, I believed I would probably become Norway’s first modern violent activist in peacetime. Celibacy enforced by a feminist regime had driven me to the point where I saw no other option. I would target the pigs who enforce feminist law, knowing I could realistically at least kill one of them before I would be captured or killed myself. Thus revenge would be assured and if I lived, my reputation as a violent criminal would make me attractive to some women. But then in the nick of time this blog attracted a lovely girl commenting as “Emma.”

This is why I take violent rhetoric from MRAs very seriously.

Meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic, MRAs glorify MRA “martyr” Thomas Ball, who killed himself on the steps of a New Hampshire courthouse last year in hopes that his death would inspire MRAs to literally burn down courthouses and police stations.

Ball’s manifesto is still up on A Voice for Men in its “activism” section, including these passages:

So boys, we need to start burning down police stations and courthouses. … This is too important to be using that touchy- feeling coaching that is so popular with business these days. You need to flatten them, like Wile E. Coyote. They need to be taught never to replace the rule of law. BURN-THEM-OUT!

Most of the police stations built in New England over the last 20 years are stone or brick. Fortunately, the roofs are still wood. The advantage of fire on the roof is that it is above the sprinklers

AVFM tastefully omitted Ball’s specific instructions on how to make Molotov cocktails, but left this in:

There will be some casualties in this war. Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.

For many more examples of violent threatening rhetoric from MRAs, I urge you to go through some of my posts here and  here.

 

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Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

Yeah, not buying PUA as manipulation. Perhaps we are Artisting dfferent Pick-Ups. Most of the guys who do pushy game are not in the same venue and milieu I am.

Dude, seriously, “mild gaslighting” Your words. “mild GASLIGHTING”

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

PUA is legal in the.Commonwealth hitty is a crime. Community standards.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

Illegal and unethical are not always the same thing.

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

And I’m sick of you trying spin PUA bullshit as just another kink. No agrees to do PUA scene ahead of time. One party lies to and pressures the other into sex.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

Eh, I’m improving. Haven’t manipulated anyone in about 2 years.

Tom Martin
13 years ago

Here’s an article referring to a study finding 60% of custodial mothers interfere with the father’s visitation rights:

http://www.squidoo.com/fathers-visitation-access-rights

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

2 bad Massachusetts haz spoken.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

From where you are ethically speaking the only way is up, really.

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

Oh, well that makes it okay then. Except it doesn’t, even if I did believe you.

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

Eurosabra, if you want to PUA me, but I don’t want to be PUAed, how do I stop you?

“Women can tell me to stop if they get uncomfortable” isn’t good enough. You’ve already made them uncomfortable. Plus you’ve given them no explicit indication that you’ll stop and not be angry if they tell you to stop.

If my partner wants to do a mindfuck scene with me, he asks. He doesn’t just start humiliating and confusing me and think “she can say no if she doesn’t like this!” Do you have any comparable standard of consent for PUA?

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

So, um, does this mean you’re not friending me on FetLife?

Kyrie
Kyrie
13 years ago

Saying “you’re making me uncomfortable” to a stranger, hitting on you or otherwise is not easy for most people.They’re more like to try to communicate it non-verbally. Saying “I stop when they say NO” is not enough.

TheNatFantastic
13 years ago

Tom, that’s not a study, it’s a blogpost. The link you quote leads to another blogpost. It’s not scientific, peer reviewed, or anything other than something someone just pulled out of their arse.

If I didn’t know you made the whole case up to get attention, I’d say this is why you fucking sucked at a masters degree.

jumbofisch
jumbofisch
13 years ago

TOM MARTIN!!!!

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

So, um, does this mean you’re not friending me on FetLife?

You aren’t exactly doing a bang-up job convincing people you’re not creepy here.

Eurosabra
Eurosabra
13 years ago

Actually, that was flip and I’m sorry. I’m actually proceeding very carefully and respectfully on FetLife and am not pushing at all. I may get to a TNG munch and talk to people, with no PUA. I am taking my cues from Bruno’s blog, as he is obviously proceeding properly.

Argenti Aertheri
13 years ago

“Again, do I HAVE To reveal invisible disabilities to my casual sexual partners, you ableist bluestockings?”

*sigh* I’m going to continue assuming your issues are at least in part because English isn’t your first language, the other option is a bit too disgusting. So then, I repeat myself —

“you really should…somewhere around when the relationship looks serious-ish, it really is in good taste to let your partner know you’re mentally ill…it’ll go over a lot better if they know in advance, and you’ll save yourself the trouble and pain of being dumped once you’re actually involved”

Is that clearer with the extraneous bits removed? Do you have to? No. Was that the advice of someone who’s gotten dumped once involved for failing to? Yep.

Cassandra — “If your stomach is strong enough, Eurosabra has talked about why he thinks it’s OK for him to be dishonest before. It was pretty damn creepy – he has to, you see. The nasty mean shallow women who hang out in LA clubs made him do it. Plus they actually quite like it when he gaslights them.” — do you happen to have a link for that? I don’t think he’s been around long enough to show up in google results yet.

Sonenstein, F.L., & Calhoun, C.A. (1990). Determinants of child support: A pilot survey of absent parents.

That’s the citation on Tom’s study reference, it seems to be behind a paywall, which means I can’t review the method (and I’d assume then that he can’t either, and is going by what squidoo says)

Tom Martin
13 years ago

Here’s a case of a man initially being denied access to his child because she was a girl. The article also mentions research from Washington State, indicating that the more men fight for child custody in court, the less child access they get:

http://www.squidoo.com/fathers-visitation-access-rights

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

The thing is, they don’t even stop when people say no. Those who claim to do so are interpreting “says no” in strange and esoteric ways that allow them to continue pushing past the point where their targets are attempting to get away while maintaining plausible deniability in their own minds.

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

I searched for “Eurosabra” on FetLife, and had this little sigh of relief when I didn’t find him there.

My relief was probably misplaced, though. People on FetLife are (on average, definitely not all) more educated than the general populace on consent. It’s no big surprise he wouldn’t hang out there.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

No links, sorry. He’s actually been around multiple times before – he pops up any time any topic that can be related to PUA if you squint hard enough is raised.

Argenti Aertheri
13 years ago

Tom — FFS find non-squidoo articles, they suck at everything! I mean, they can’t get the basic facts of fandoms correc.

TheNatFantastic
13 years ago

Tom – no it’s not. Care to stop lying through your teeth for one split second?

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

I may get to a TNG munch and talk to people, with no PUA.

DO NOT DO THIS.

You are not a safe person. You are not a safe person for regular dating. You do not understand consent, you proudly manipulate and gaslight, you are buddy-buddy with someone who thinks rape should be legal and you don’t see what’s wrong with that.

BDSM takes more trust than ordinary sex. You stay the FUCK out of it.

Argenti Aertheri
13 years ago

Cassandra — he missed glossary troll then, but I’ll see if I can google it, once I’m done trying to track down Tom’s survey.

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