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A new name for those of us who criticize the manosphere and by gosh is it a clever one

Hey did you ever hear of a movie called “the Matrix?”

It’s always handy, during a political or cultural or even just a regular war war, to have a good derogatory name to call your opponents. During World War I, the allies called the Germans “Huns” — as in “Atilla the,” not “huns, could you pass the butter, thanks babe.”

Now that I think of it most of the other names people call their enemies in times of war are really kind of offensive, too offensive for a good family blog like this one so let’s just skip them for now. But hey it’s good to have a derogatory enemy name option if you need it. For example, I like to call the people I write about on this blog “goddamn pieces of shit.”

Anyway, the point here is that one of those manosphere pieces of shit has come up with a derogatory name for US — for you and me, huns.

And you’ll never guess it but it’s like straight out of that movie The Matrix. The movie that’s like 23 years old, old enough to vote if movies were able to do that. That would be weird.

“For those who are in the manosphere, I have and idea for what to call people who oppose us, wrote someone called skllyskullstyle in a recent post that conveniently happens to be the one I’m talking about.

Im sorry if this seems out of nowhere, but here me out so we can identify what we are dealing with. So since the redpill community is based of the matrix the movie, we can call people who make the manosphere look bad as possible as “Gyphers”. Short for gynocentrist, and Cypher.

Oh my god I can tell this is going to catch on big time. I mean, its like THE MATRIX but also like GYNOCENTRISM, which I’m not sure what that means, I think it means a country ruled by gynocologists, and if you ask me that would be a good idea, I say give them a chance, they can’t possibly fuck it up any worse than it is now and we could have Roe V Wade back too; ABORTION ON DEMAND.

Why Cypher? Because in the movie The matrix, a character named Cypher was once redpilled himself and saw the world for what it actually is. Just like us in the manosphere right now. This also applies to people right now who say ” oh, I used to be redpilled or manosphere but now I’m not”. These people and Cypher are in common. Cypher betrays his team for personal gain and just to be bluepilled and have an easy life not wanting to help and be lazy (or selfish). Just like the people who oppose the manosphere or redpill.

Yes we are all lazy as shit. And obviously being feminist is the world’s easiest path to material fortune.

And, we can also call another part of the opposers as “Pullers”. Because they do whatever they can to pull people on their side, even if they are so SO wrong.

Why “pullers,” when “wankers” was just sitting there?

Pullers would just be people almost like normies who were not really redpilled or in the manosphere, but just because it’s very easy for men not receive justice when the woman is definitely a perpatror. And the evidence is right there to prove it.

Right exactly that makes perfect sense (could someone please let me know what the holy fuck he’s talking about) .

So what do you guys think? Let me know.

I think you’ve got a winner on your hands, a real winner.

P.S also in the matrix movie, morpheus also says something like ” these people will do whatever they can to keep the matrix safe”. Something like that when he was training neo. This could translate to bluepillers, feminist, and allies. Thank you.

No, thank you, skllyskullstyle, thank YOU huns.

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TheKnd
TheKnd
11 days ago

I find it a bit funny, since Cypher in the Matrix is characterized as a chauvinistic creeper, peeping on women, having a twisted lust for Trinity and being literally called “Mr Regan” by Smith. Almost as if he represents a very male-centric establishment that tries to monitor and- oh, why do I even bother!
it took them over a decade and a half to figure out “Let’s name the people we don’t like after the bad guy in the movie we misunderstand and glorify”. Analysis is lost on the manosphere.

Full Metal Ox
11 days ago

@GSS ex-noob:

Fritz had an eye for the ladies, right up to the end when he was in a wheelchair and hard of hearing and all the other ills of the flesh. I think I last saw him 6 months before he died.

You knew him, then? Leiber was one of my formative authors (as reflected in my often long-winded and convoluted sentence structure), but I’ve got an increasingly nagging $64,000 question: did he ever act on the taste for young girls recurrent in his Fafhrd and Gray Mouser stories?

William Burns
William Burns
11 days ago

This is about the fifty millionth time this has been pointed out, but the reverence manosphere types have for a movie made by a couple of trans women will never cease to amuse.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
11 days ago

Bit more legal news in case anyone is interested.

You may know that Alex Jones of infowars is on trial for defamation. The claim was brought by the families of the Sandy Hook victims. Arising from InfoWars allegation that Sandy Hook was a hoax. Jones was prohibited from defending the claim because of failure to hand over discovery. Jones claimed they didn’t have the material requested (emails and phone records). The judge disagreed. So now there’s a hearing so a jury can determine how much damages Jones should pay to the families.

But on the last day of evidence Jones was being cross examined. The families’ lawyer asked if Jones still insisted that there had been no texts or emails at Infowars regarding Sandy Hook. Jones said that was the case.

The lawyer then started reading out incriminating texts between Jones and other Infowars producers.

It all went a bit bargain basement Perry Mason. The lawyer asked if Jones knew how he’d got the texts. Jones said he did not. The lawyer then, rather dramatically said “I got them 12 days ago when your own lawyers accidentally emailed me the last two years worth of all your calls, texts, and emails…”

On twitter all the non-lawyers are speculating on whether this is a conspiracy, or Jones playing some sort of 4D chess. All the lawyers are going “Yeah, it’s really emabarrasing when you do that.”

But there was a hearing today where Jones team tried to withdraw the material. The judge denied that.

But the main thing was the almost gleeful way the families’ lawyer said “Can we just check the livestream is working. There have been a number of requests from government agencies and law enforcement that they want to watch this.”

(The 6 Jan commission immediately subpoena’d the material the moment the judge denied Jones’ motion.)

Last edited 11 days ago by Alan Robertshaw
Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
11 days ago

@Alan

I’m almost positive I’ve been in that very courtroom for jury duty before. It’s in the new courthouse (meaning it’s younger than my marriage to Mr. Parasol), and it’s rather bemusing to see it over and over again on the news.

As a side note, I keep hearing these wild theories that Jones’ lawyers sent the phone data as a way to undermine their own client because “nobody could be that stupid.”

To that I say, “First, Mr. Jones’ law firm has some egregious typos on their website. Second, this week I had to deal with a lab director who actually got blood drawn from their staff for a communication test they asked me to run. Sometimes people really ARE that stupid.

Healthcare geek stuff that is geeky
If anybody’s curious … if you’re doing an HL7 message test on a test patient, you don’t want to confuse anybody. No specimens need to be collected. In fact, depending on the situation, I am required to use a code that translates to “don’t charge the facility for this lab test ‘cos it’s totally bogus.” Otherwise hospitals and clinics would run up quite the tab when we’re making sure lab results can arrive at their EHR. And you should NEVER send out a specimen under the name of somebody who doesn’t exist.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
11 days ago

re Alex Jones, truly a “couldn’t have happened to a nicer bloke” moment.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
11 days ago

@ Vicky P

 because “nobody could be that stupid.”

Heh, on legal twitter we’re all swapping ‘reply to all’ stories.

This sort of thing isn’t that uncommon. Even more so now where so much is done by email. But there’s a reason we try not to stack different classes of case papers on top of each other. I’ve accidentally been sent all sorts of stuff.

But it happens often though that all jurisdictions have a procedure for when it does. We’re going to do a video tomorrow about all this. Ironically we did one yesterday about a case here where someone ‘accidentally’ dropped an incriminating phone off a north sea ferry.

Where Jones’ lawyers really messed up was not following the procedure under Texas rules. There, once you realise what you’ve done, you have 10 days to to write to the other side setting out why the documents are privilege and requesting a ‘snap back’ (I love your terminology).

But instead they just sent an email saying ‘please disregard’. The judge said that didn’t meet the requirements (she has actually given them a belated opportunity to do that)

But the judge said she couldn’t stop the families’ lawyer handing the material to the Committee and law enforcement, even if she wanted to. Which she clearly didn’t.

Last edited 11 days ago by Alan Robertshaw
Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
11 days ago

@Alan

Yeah, I have HIPAA engraved somewhere on my left ventricle, which means I’ve occasionally had to report suspected HIPAA violations. Stuff happens. Humans make mistakes. But there are, as Mr. Parasol puts it, idiot traps in place to reduce the likelihood. Unfortuately, as Mr. Parasol also puts it, they keep inventing new kinds of idiots.

Where Jones’ lawyers really messed up was not following the procedure under Texas rules. There, once you realise what you’ve done, you have 10 days to to write to the other side setting out why the documents are privilege and requesting a ‘snap back’ (I love your terminology).

You should hear the traditional Texas pronounciation of “voir dire.” Seriously – that was one of the things they brought up during jury selection the last time I was called in: they explained that yes, the French say it this way, but here in Texas you may also hear it this way.

Judge Gamble is up for re-election. I hope she stays on the bench for as long as she wants.

Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
Yutolia the Laissez-Fairy Pronoun Boner
11 days ago

we can call people who make the manosphere look bad as possible as “Gyphers”.

So, yourselves? No one makes the “manosphere” look anywhere near as bad as its own denizens.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
11 days ago

@ Vicky P

I have HIPAA engraved somewhere on my left ventricle

I’ve also been following the Cruz trial. A rather nice trauma specialist gave evidence. He recounted how, because of covid, some interviews/counselling had been done remotely. He was asked if that was by Zoom. But he explained he has to use some specialist video conferencing application that’s HIPAA compliant. That was an interesting thing to find out.

Texas pronounciation of “voir dire.”

We go for ‘vwoar deer’. Although here it refers to a totally different thing. We don’t have jury selection. It’s first 12 names out of the hat, and that’s your jury.

Judge Gamble is up for re-election. 

Oh she has been marvellous. She has a sort of world-weary seen it all before snarkiness that is wonderful to behold. I hope someone does a compilation of her highlights in the trial. I wonder if she’s a Bender from Futurama fan?

“We would ask for a mistrial.”

“*Laughs* Oh wait, you’re serious?”

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
11 days ago

A good derogatory name is one that you have to have pamphlets printed out so you can pass it on to people to explain what it means when you use it.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
11 days ago

Alex Jones trial update:

Jury awards parents $4.1 million for their emotional distress.

There is however a next phase where they consider punitive damages.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
11 days ago

@Alan

Best I can recall is that the Texas pronunciation is “vore dyer.” But the way the attorneys and judges explained it, I gathered it was a case of “Yeah, YOU may pronounce it vwah deer, but we’ve got our OWN way to say it.” Which is Texas in a nutshell.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
11 days ago

@ Vicky P

As someone who likes to say ‘Horses doofrers’ I totally get that.

GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
11 days ago

@FMOx: He liked ’em young, but legal. But he appreciated most women, as long as they weren’t super-homely.

@Alan: I saw that yesterday. In the words of the great philosopher Bugs Bunny “What a maroon.” Jones has millions of dollars, you’d think he could hire lawyers who wouldn’t make such a simple mistake. The families’ lawyer must have loved to do the Perry Mason bit, that almost never happens IRL.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
11 days ago

@TheKnd:

Seems there’s a lot of villains motivated by feeling entitled to a woman somewhere. At the
very least, we have:

The Matrix – Cypher – after Trinity – betrays the team and almost gets the last free human city destroyed.

Ghostbusters 2 – Janosz Poha – after Dana Barrett – aids and abets Vigo’s attempt to conquer the Earth

Ghostbusters 3 – Rowan North – general incel-like ideology – also attempts to enable a supernatural takeover of the planet

Doctor Strange and the Multiverse of Madness – 2 alt-Doctor Stranges – after Christine Palmer — both of them wreck whole universes (one, his own), or at least the Earths in them, and both of them get their fool asses killed as a result.

(Actually, of the above, only Janosz Poha survives the consequences of his schemes.)

@Yutolia:

we can call people who make the manosphere look bad as possible as “Gyphers”.

So, yourselves? No one makes the “manosphere” look anywhere near as bad as its own denizens.

Point: Yutolia.

@Alan Robertshaw:

Jury awards parents $4.1 million for their emotional distress.

I heard somewhere that Alex Jones pre-declared bankruptcy, having (understandably) very little confidence in his typo-riddled legal team, so it seems unlikely they’ll ever see a dime of it …

GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
11 days ago

The Jones trial has been making me think of the late Grumpy Cat’s memes. The one where she’s got her usual HRMPH expression and the caption is “GOOD.”

“Alex Jones has terrible lawyers”
Grumpy Cat’s face
“GOOD”

GSS ex-noob
GSS ex-noob
11 days ago

@Vicky P: Everyone I’ve ever known in academia says “Conjure Wife” is reportage, except the witchcraft. Although a few of them of them say “there was this one wife…”

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
11 days ago

@GSS ex-noob

I can’t say I’m surprised. The book captures a kind of smalltown viciousness.

@Alan

I meant to say earlier about HIPAA that yeah, there’s this whole subculture about how we communicate in HIPAA-compliant ways. E-mail within a company is fine – you can swap PHI (patient health information, aka “anything that could reasonably identify a specific patient – name, medical record number, account number, DOB, address/phone, etc.”) though in practice most people I’ve worked with try to avoid passing PHI around in e-mail. E-mail from one entity to another is a totally different ballgame. For example, I have had times where a bonkeyhead from outside my company has sent e-mail (unsecure!) where the patient’s name and DOB are in the body of the e-mail.

*shudder*

When I reply, I follow the policy of removing the PHI and replacing it with a line like [PHI REMOVED] or [PATIENT NAME/DOB] or whatever … because I’m not allowed to replace it with [PHI REMOVED BECAUSE *SOMEBODY* THINKS E-MAIL IS PRIVATE AND DOESN’T CARE ABOUT MAINTAINING PATIENT PRIVACY].

The company I work for has some pretty strict monitoring measures in place for e-mail where if you send out something triggering, you get a mildly nasty auto-e-mail that basically says, “Your e-mail seemed to have PHI in it, so we’ve slapped the security seal on it, and you’d better have a good explanation as to why this happened.” In my case, I reply with, “Test patient information, no real patient data compromised,” and then it gets routed to a security human who reviews it and tells me I’m not in trouble.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
11 days ago

@ Vicky P

strict monitoring measures in place for e-mail 

We have a thing called undertakings. They are legally irrevocable promises lawyers make on behalf of clients. So if you give an undertaking that monies will be paid but the client doesn’t cough up; you are personally liable. If you breach an undertaking you go to prison.

So as you can imagine, lawyers have to be pretty sure of the position (e.g. already being in funds) before giving them.

I know of some organisations that have similar systems to yours that flag up if it appears an email may be offering an undertaking.

I reply with, “Test patient information

Way back in the early 90s I worked at a financial institution. Every now and then they got audited by the Revenue. This was in the days of reel to reel mainframes. So to ensure the Revenue could read the database they would send some test tapes in the same format as the real ones; but with fictitious test data. They obviously didn’t want to send the real stuff until it had been internally vetted.

Well, I think you can guess what happened next…

Ada Christine
Ada Christine
10 days ago

@Surplus RE: Volcano

We only had a week of earthquakes this time around. The first major earthquake for the previous eruption was a M5.6 on 20 October 2020, about 6 months before the magma column broke through.

Full Metal Ox
10 days ago

@Surplus to Requirements:

Seems there’s a lot of villains motivated by feeling entitled to a woman somewhere.

In the original Bronze Age Marvel Comics, Thanos was in love with a feminine embodiment of Death—no connection or resemblance to Neil Gaiman’s interpretation in Sandman—and sought to offer Her the universe in sacrifice.

Judge Frollo in Disney’s The Hunchback of Notre Dame famously blames his troubling boner on a Romani woman (reflecting the tendency of the obsessively self-righteous to deal with the impulses they’ve been taught to abhor by using marginalized people as instinctual garbage cans.)

@GSS ex-noob:
 
He liked ’em young, but legal. But he appreciated most women, as long as they weren’t super-homely.

That’s a relief to hear, particularly in light of the scandal involving Walter Breen and Marion Zimmer Bradley (I’m also remembering Heidi Saha, who got pushed in the cosplay circuit by stage parents, often as sexy characters like Vampirella. Saha inspired a Warren Publications photobook and drew enough skeevy public reaction to burn her out on fandom by the age of fifteen: https://www.retrospace.org/2010/10/fact-or-fiction-15the-infamous-heidi.html)

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