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Let’s you and him fight: Jordan Peterson wants Joe Rogan to beat the crap out of Keith Olbermann

Jordan Peterson likes to fantasize about violence

Jordan Peterson, a tough guy in his own mind, wants to live in a world in which intellectual arguments can be resolved with fisticuffs. Yesterday on Twitter, he suggested that Joe Rogan, on whose podcast he’s made several appearances, should punch out former MSNBC anchor Keith Olbermann for calling him a “dipshit.”

I like that he put Keith’ Olbermann’s first name in scare quotes, for some unknown reason. And that he snitch-tagged Rogan so that he’s be sure to see both Olbermann’s insult and Peterson’s suggestion of how best to deal with this impertinence.

This isn’t particularly surprising behavior from Peterson, who has a long history of publicly fantasizing about violence, usually with himself as the bringer of a fist to the face. You can see some examples in this Twitter thread, including my favorite one of all:

This is how 12-year-old boys think. It’s astonishing to me that Peterson is considered a role model for anybody. Clean your room, bucko — and clear you head of all this violence.

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SpecialFFrog
SpecialFFrog
4 months ago

@tim gueguen: Indeed. And he fantasized about going on a hunger strike after his imminent arrest and becoming a literal free speech martyr.

Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
4 months ago

To be honest with you guys, all 5 feet 100 pounds of me could take down Peterson, and I got winded putting on pants today. in my current physical condition, I could take this guy down with a cough. Peterson needs to take several seats.

Lumipuna
Lumipuna
4 months ago

LollyPop:

Your experience with that guy sounds horrible. It sounds like you kept your head though!

It was mainly just baffling in the moment since, as noted, I was just beginning to understand what was going on. I’m not used to considering people as a threat (much privilege!) but I to tend intuitively shy away from confrontations and even mildly scary situations. It’s not even very calculated or anything. I thank my progressive upbringing for being able to run away without feeling shame.

Chris Oakley
Chris Oakley
4 months ago

Off-topic, but did any of y’all catch Laura Ingraham’s disturbingly gleeful reaction to the news that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff has apparently tested positive for Covid?

Source: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fox-news-host-laura-ingraham-s-glee-at-general-s-covid-diagnosis-sparks-outrage/ar-AASUja3?ocid=undefined

Simon
Simon
4 months ago

The subreddit that keeps the running total of all the folk arrested for using the wrong pronouns – https://www.reddit.com/r/ArrestedCanadaBillC16/

bcb
bcb
4 months ago

>I like that he put Keith’ Olbermann’s first name in scare quotes, for some unknown reason.

I think it’s because conservatives have gotten used to putting trans people’s names in scare quotes, so now they’re just doing it to everyone they don’t like.

epitome of incomprehensibility

@occasional reader – Thanks! And yes, fair point. I didn’t mean to suggest lots of politicians have bodyguards, but it might have sounded that way! I meant elected officials are more likely to have the kind of social power (riches, fame) that many journalists don’t (unless they’re TV reporters on a big news channel, for example). So it’s not that politicians aren’t vulnerable, but journalists might be more so.

…Then again, if you’re perceived as important, you could be targeted for violence – like the member of parliament in the UK who was killed, or the several U.S. presidents in the past. So I’m not sure what would be a greater risk overall, but it seems especially unfair to go after journalists.

tim gueguen
4 months ago

Jordan Peterson has resigned from the University of Toronto. All that woke stuff chased him away.
https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2022/01/19/jordan-peterson-quits/

C.A. Collins
C.A. Collins
4 months ago

@tim

And there was much rejoicing.

C.A.Collins
C.A.Collins
4 months ago

@tim
And there was much rejoicing.

C.A. Collins
C.A. Collins
4 months ago

Oops. Feel free to delete one of the rejoicings.
I got dumped back to the start and figured the comment had been eaten.

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
4 months ago

You’ve gotta love how the Pharyngula article uses an “angry troll” graphic and Comic Sans whenever it quotes Peterson, but no troll graphic and no Comic Sans when quoting other sources. 🙂

Then there’s this from one of the comments:

A weak correlation of “neuroticism” to being less conservative is pronounced to be significant to higher reported happiness in conservatives claimed by other authors.

That “higher reported happiness in conservatives” would be the translation into hi-falutin’ academic speech of the commonplace observation “ignorance is bliss”.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
4 months ago

@Surplus:
Pharyngula has a long history of using the troll/Comic Sans quoting for quoting people seen as ridiculous. Which given the usual ‘beat’ of Pharyngula, usually means creationists like Kent Hovind or the like. (In fact, if you look at the HTML source code, it actually has <blockquote class=”creationist”%gt; for that.) The ‘troll’ is actually a cartoon version of the loud and stupid ‘Mr. Gumby’ character from Monty Python.

Elaine The Witch
Elaine The Witch
4 months ago

@ surplus
I don’t think that’s right because all the conservatives I meet are always angry about something and it’s normally something small. Like my aunt gets mad Every time she see a poc in a relationship with a white person on tv. She’s still stuck on the “they never should have allowed that to happen “way of thinking and frankly, they all seem to just get mad at any small thing.

A tattoo on a woman, rage.
A boy not wearing a belt, rage.
Someone not letting their cat outside so it can get hit by a car or eaten by bigger animals, rage

Like not offended but actual rage about what a stranger is doing and i dont understand it

Surplus to Requirements
Surplus to Requirements
4 months ago

You mean, they’re really like those propagandists on Fox Noise? That’s not just actors acting? Yikes.

Natty S.
3 months ago

I’m not sure how this has been missed- is this perhaps a disproportionately cisgender commentariat?- but the implication is clearly that Olbermann’s politics are explained by his being secretly trans. If there were any merit to it, it would make the sports reporters of recent decades rather more progressive than assumed.

@Lollypop Men firing above or away from their officers’ intended targets can also be a conscious political tactic. For example, a noted resistance tactic in Vietnam for Vietnamese fighters and Black Americans alike was to make silent eye contact and move away in opposite directions. Impossible to prove, but every bit as effective as fragging.

@tim gueguen The logic was supposedly that gender identity being recognized as a site of human rights violation, plus Ontario’s existing law requiring him to use students’ pronouns (apparently unenforced!), meant he would soon be a “Criminal”. There is probably a kernel of truth in that his already-unlawful behavior had been tolerated, but was unlikely to be tolerated further in a climate where universities would be more accountable to trans people as such.

Gerald Fnord
Gerald Fnord
3 months ago

My grandfathers could have told Dr Peterson that the acme of adult masculinity was staying indoors and studying, siring children and teaching them, and earning a living. Fighting has nothing to do with it.

JAmES
JAmES
1 month ago

Peterson is such a pussy that he would get his ass kicked easily. This guy is such a loser.

JAmES
JAmES
1 month ago

I changed my mind about this. I am not a fan of Jordan Peterson and his books are just garden variety self help books. However, I think he is really losing it with his benzo addiction and other health problems. Additionally, Peterson is being used and played by the various YouTube personalities and that meathead, Joe Rogan. Plus, his daughter, Mikala, has some very questionable motives with him. Even though he was out of line with this comment, I kind of feel bad for him. He opened a toxic Pandora’s box, that he can’t get out of.

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