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MGTOWs have a new woman to hate: the “soulless, scary,” non-virginal Meghan Markle

Uh oh! Prince Harry’s in trouble!

By David Futrelle

The MGTOWs of the world, it’s safe to say, didn’t enjoy the royal wedding  any more than the white supremacists did. In the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, the regulars are still grousing about it, lamenting that the over-the-top spectacle of it all was giving women hope that they too could land a prince — or, failing that, at least a man with some cash in his bank account.

The royal wedding, one British MGTOW complained, assured ordinary women

that no matter how much of a train wreck you and your life is….you can still fool your dream cash cow in to signing that contract to make him your cash cow for the rest of your life.

Most of the MGTOWs ire, like that of the white supremacists I wrote about on the royal wedding day, has focused on the person of one Meghan Markle, the new Duchess of Sussex.

The white supremacists hate the fact that she’s mixed race. The MGTOWs, well, they hate pretty much everything about her, from her age (an ancient 36!) to her background as an actress to her allegedly inadequate arse. Oh, and they hate the fact she’s mixed race, too.

While most royal-wedding-watchers oohed and ahhed over the photos showing the happy couple looking at one another with obvious adoration, one MGTOW Redditor managed to find one picture of Markle with a slightly strange expression on her face that, in his mind, indicated the presence of pure evil. (It’s the photo at the top of this post, minus the demonic redness I added to it for this post.)

Needless to say, the MGTOW community agreed with this assessment, and then some.

MobySnoby 25 points 1 day ago In every picture of this woman you'll notice her expression is soulless, blank, calculated - its scary. Definitely a cluster B type. You'd have thought Harry would know at his age but I guess the fact that he lost his mother so early on made him almost predestined to seek out an emotionally unavailable spouse. Poor fella

One fellow, whose reach exceeded his grasp, vocabulary-wise, suggested that Markle’s “evil” look was evidence that this golddigger was staking her claim to an exceedingly rich vein of gold.

WolfgangBreitweit 10 points 1 day ago Gotcha that’s what it means. Harry‘s dick is now complicit to her orifices.

In another thread on Markle, MGTOW Redditors expressed their astonishment that an actual prince would marry such an allegedly average-looking woman.

BlackHaz3 16 points 2 days ago She looks average, wtf does he see in this used up bitch?

New_User1984 5 points 1 day ago I don’t get it. She’s not even that hot and from all accounts she’s a naggy cunt.

DMT-50 8 points 1 day ago she's not even attractive, her face is too long.

No doubt her knees are too pointy as well.

But the alleged longness of Markle’s face was less distressing to Reddit’s MGTOWs than her extremely advanced age. Why on earth would Harry allow himself to be ensnared by a women “pushing 40” — she’s 36 — instead of a 19-year-old virgin of the sort that MGTOWs and other Manospherans fetishize? Why would Harry accept a used woman when he could have gotten one mint-in-box?

Shimakaze4 1 point 1 day ago I dunno what Prince Harry was thinking honestly. He's Prince fucking Harry, he could have been plowing his way through any number of 20 year old sluts, but nooooo he wifes up the woman about to hit the wall. She's not even that good looking, has a decent face, but no tits or arse.

DTreatz 32 points 1 day ago I can't believe that this is the best Harry could do, a 36 year old non-virgin divorcee. If you're going to get married (shouldn't) least you could opt for was some prime exclusive good stuff. permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]AngryDeer 14 points 1 day ago Prince Harry of England. Literally hand pick any 22 y/o virgin rose of the realm. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]NoThirst 24 points 1 day ago Have you seen British women? Not a lot of "virgin roses" left/ permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]itzhyde 8 points 1 day ago They lose them at 14, Muslim grooming gangs and getto schools.

Yes, by all means, slip some Islamophobia in there alongside the misogyny.

When one commenter ventured the opinion that she was actually sort of a hottie, he was quickly put straight.

magx01[?] -7 points 1 day ago She is still hot af for her age though. I'll say that. permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]dayone_27 9 points 1 day ago The wall is only days away permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]t353tfb 2 points 1 day ago Within six months you'll be looking at a 300lb bbw. Her obnoxious politics will also be loud and proud. The whole freak show is a total embarrassment for everyone involved. Harry Hewitt is having revenge on behalf of his mother. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]FortyandLifeToGo 1 point 1 day ago I wouldn't argue that...but who do you think she gave her best years to? It wasn't her now husband or anybody like him.

That’s right: Handsome Harry, Afghanistan war veteran and literal prince, is no Chad but rather a betabucks cuck.

A few commenters have convinced themselves that Markle isn’t a “real” woman at all.

TheImpossible1 2 points 1 day ago Is it just me or does she look trans... permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]LimousineLibtard 1 point 21 hours ago She looks like John Kerry with a wig and a spray tan.

that_nast 1 point 1 day ago Her body structure is weird as fuck permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]LimousineLibtard 2 points 21 hours ago That’s because it is a man.

Have we covered all the forms of bigotry yet? Not quite, but this little exchange should take care of most of the rest.

Logiman43 3 points 1 day ago Harry married an older, catholic, feminist, american (for uk folks), half-white/half-black, from crazy&poor family, divorced actress. I mean, you cant find lower than this. Maybe if you added crack addiction and kids. But just maybe permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]DogsOfParadise 2 points 19 hours ago Could've been also a fat, trans, refugee woman. It's not that bad. permalinkembedsaveparentreportgive goldreply [–]Logiman43 2 points 14 hours ago You are right. It could've been worse

Bigotry Bingo!

And then there’s this fellow, who combines a vivid imagination with a somewhat limited understanding of how women conduct their careers.

grewapair 2 points 17 hours ago Meh, she did more than he did for all that money. He was born into it. She had to swallow a lot of cum. Sure, she got paid $100,000 per half liter of cum swallowed, but that's way less than any of us would have charged him.

MGTOWs, so consumed by jealousy and desperate sexual longing that their sour grapes have blue balls.

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Zemyla
Zemyla
4 years ago

The “transvestigation” thing is hilarious. Yes, everyone who’s ever appeared on a TV screen is transgender. Like, turn on a football game. The football players? Transgender. The cheerleaders? Transgender. The coaches? Transgender. All the fans sitting in the bleachers? Every last one of them is transgender.

Did you ever show up in the background of a news story, passing by a person with a camera? Guess what, you’re transgender too now.

Over the past 20 years, the number of transgender people has risen, as has the number of webcams and CCTV cameras. And because correlation equals causation, that must mean that the cameras are making people trans. The old stories of cameras sucking out your souls are true, but they put in a soul of the opposite gender afterwards.

Did you think it was just a coincidence that “television” and “transvestite” share an abbreviation?

…okay, seriously, it was way too easy for me to reach into that conspiratorial mindset there. That probably isn’t healthy.

bluecat
bluecat
4 years ago

I find so many parallels here with what happened to Tiberius.

Ulp!

OK, I know he’s the Duke of Cornwall, but if he ever builds a villa at the top of the cliffs with only one path down, and invites you to a party there – don’t go!

(I used to wonder why people ever accepted Dracula’s invitations to visit his castle in Transylvania. After all, he’s called Dracula. Then we got invited to a castle in Transylvania. Had a great time and zero vampirism).

Katamount
Katamount
4 years ago

Incidentally, that “good or ill” dichotomy the monarchy represents is easily seen in my own avatar. The wreath of maple leaves was taken from the flags of the provincial Lieutenant Governors (the Wiki vectors are public domain). While the image recalls the reverent profile of the sovereign seen on the back of coinage, typically facing right, mine looks left with a mischievous grin, hair contained under a bandana with the collar of a leather jacket visible (more apparent in a larger rendering). I like to think it lampoons the symbols with a cheeky rebelliousness.

I also think back to my recent museum visits. On one hand, Mackenzie House honours a fiery rebel who directly took up arms against the newly-invested Queen’s representatives, while Colborne Lodge sits upon land a track of land “granted” to the city by an architect who set about building the city atop of land basically stolen from the Mississaugas and whose grave is protected by the fence that enclosed St. Paul’s Cathedral (a fence that he had to fetch from the bottom of the St. Lawrence after the ship carrying it ran aground.) I can only assume that John George Howard was a fan of Sir Christopher Wren.

Canada, a land of contrasts!

Nightflyer
Nightflyer
4 years ago

For a certainty, she’ll never win an Emmy now! On the other hand, she will be Colonel-in-Chief of British, Canadian, Australian, New Zealand, Jamaican, Barbadian, Papua New Guinean, Belizean, Dominican, Grenadian, Solomon Islands, Antiguan, St. Kittian, and four other national military regiments across the globe.

And I wouldn’t put it past her to take the Parachute Regiment’s officer training course (in Britain, Australia, or New Zealand), even though the Prince of Wales is Colonel-in-Chief of the Parachute Regiment.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Nightflyer,

Can you please just use the comment box on the site instead of replying via email?

It makes your comments go out of sequence on the page and it messes up how the whole page loads, unfortunately.

Citerior Motive
Citerior Motive
4 years ago

Katamount: Actually, on Commonwealth coinage the monarchs alternate direction. The current Queen faces right; George VI faced left; Edward VIII should have faced right but wanted his good side featured—some people took this as a bad omen. George V faced left, Edward VII right, Victoria left, William IV right, George IV left, George III right, George II left, George I right, Anne left, William and Mary right, James VII and II left, Charles II right and Oliver Cromwell as Lord Protector faced left.

I somehow know this stuff despite being as staunch a republican as you’re ever likely to meet.

Katamount
Katamount
4 years ago

@Alan Robinshaw

I don’t think ol’ Kermit the Lobster really thought his interview answers through with that last NYT one, because the results have been pure mockery from everyone save the Peterson faithful. And they’re relying on the same defense that I remember Christian apologists relying on: “If it’s bad, it’s been taken out of context! You just don’t understand it!”

That actually brings to mind a remarkable series by a YouTuber called Malmrose Projects where she deconstructs the Red Pill Community and I think it’s the second episode in the series that touches on the nexus of toxic masculinity, the 90s nerd/gamer culture and the YouTube Atheists of the 2000s/2010s. She hits the critical nail on the head where she makes it clear that in the twilight of the Bush administration, after Katrina had all but destroyed whatever approval rating he had left, there was a sudden surge in culture war issues (you’re already seeing it with Trump). It was then that the War on Christmas came about. It was then that 10 Commandment monuments on public property started to arise. It was all the right had when their standard-bearers had been exposed as incompetent failures for the whole nation to see. At the same time, YouTube was a new thing, and it gave young, tech-savvy people the opportunity to push back on the culture war nonsense coming out of Fox, but they did it in the way that they had been conditioned to do so: aggressive mockery known as “pwning.” The religious right tried their hand at YouTube, but didn’t get nearly the traction their opposition had. And thus you had a lot of self-styled “skeptics” and “rationalists” handing out pwnage to any number of hapless internet “ministries” that dared try to convince people the earth was only 6000 years old. I subbed to plenty of channels that did this; it was a welcome relief from the drumbeat of right-wing idiocy that accompanied the rise of the Tea Party.

The problem was once the religious right had been stomped into oblivion on YouTube, what to do to then? For the better part of 4-5 years, culture war issues were their thing. It was all they knew. It was how they got adoring fans who told them how smart they were and they had to do something to keep them subbed. It was only natural they’d pick another culture war battlefield and feminism was a logical target. But this was where the other problem reared its ugly head: they weren’t actually all that enlightened. Sure, they knew the local con-artist peddling Young Earth Creationism were full of shit. But most of us do anyway, even other faithful. It was easy mocking Ian Juby or William Lane Craig. It’s when they had to talk about literally anything else that their “skeptical” personas began to break down.

But they had to pwn somebody. It was what made them look smart the first time. Thunderf00t knew it and about ten thousand clones of his later, here we are.

I highly recommend the series; it’s not the flashiest, but it’s got one of the better handles on the trajectory that a budding Red Piller takes and why they behave the way they do. I’ll bet dollars to donuts that Malmrose and I were subbed to a lot of the same atheist YouTubers and gradually unsubbed them all since 2012.

@Citerior Motive

True, but Queen Liz is only monarch I’ve known in my lifetime. 😀

Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

One thing we could perhaps adopt from the incels is their use of the term ‘ragefuel’; because this certainly qualifies…

https://dailystormer.name/will-the-texas-shooting-cause-women-to-reconsider-the-systematic-abuse-of-men/

Warning for usual victim blaming BS.

Robert Walker-Smith
Robert Walker-Smith
4 years ago

Regarding hierarchy, in a recent thread on the Lobstermen subReddit, someone made the observation that, in Western societies, competent people rise to the top where they can do the most good.*

I remarked that that was the most touchingly optimistic thing I’d seen in print since Engels predicted the withering away of the state.

*They actually believe that men are at the top of hierarchies because they’re just naturally better at running things.

Katamount
Katamount
4 years ago

Regarding hierarchy, in a recent thread on the Lobstermen subReddit, someone made the observation that, in Western societies, competent people rise to the top where they can do the most good.*

Clearly that person has never met the Ford family of Toronto.

Speaking of the upcoming Ontario election, I looked up the NDP Candidate in my riding (Don Valley West) and… well… I’m not sure what to think. Her name is Amara Possian; I’ve seen a few signs of hers around, so clearly there’s some NDP support in the area. She has no website to speak of, just a handful of bullets on the Ontario NDP site and from what I gather, she’s a community organizer that’s basically been tossed into a hopeless race at the last minute by the party brass with no money or backing. Her Twitter indicates she was just put up by the NDP on May 15th (the day the campaign officially began).

She strikes me as a blood, sweat and tears activist and community organizer for a lot of great stuff, environmental concerns and affordable living foremost among them and as much as I’d love to cast a ballot for her, I just can’t see her overcoming the name recognition of Kathleen Wynne in the riding that contains the affluent neighbourhoods of Leaside and the Bridle Path. I gotta vote for the riding I know and I can’t see Thorncliffe overcoming the legions of upper-middle class voters stretching from Hogg’s Hollow all the way down to Davisville Village and Leaside. Despite Wynne being unpopular seemingly everywhere, she’s been a fixture in Don Valley West for more than a decade; the riding knows her and has clearly been comfortable with her.

*sigh* If this were any other riding…. I happen to like Wynne and if she has any faults, they’re shared with the structure of the Liberal Party as an entity too comfortable with neoliberal capitalism, but dammit if I don’t like her as a person. I can’t name a better Premier this province has had since Bill Davis and I doubt anyone else could either. Still, I’m tired of having to fight off Ford family crackpots all the damned time and needing to vote strategically just to keep them away from the levers of power.

idli sambar
idli sambar
4 years ago

These types also get “systematic” and “systemic” mixed up.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
4 years ago

@Katamount:

If Wynne has her own riding in the bag — or indeed, if the winner of your riding is a foregone conclusion in general — you should probably just vote your conscience.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
4 years ago

Why the hell did my post appear 2nd from the end instead of at the end?

misophistry
misophistry
4 years ago

@Surplus to Requirements – because Nightflyer replied by e-mail. Annoying isn’t it.

@Alan Robertshaw Currently my ragefuel gauge says I have a full tank. I blame Lobsters.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

The wall is only days away

It was nonsense when it was a year at which they determined women go sour. Now they claim to pinpoint the time down to the day, it’s even more ridiculous. Yep, they ran the math, and the Duchess is set to become a hag on Friday. Splains why Harry married her now. At least she’ll still be pretty for the honeymoon /s

idli sambar
idli sambar
4 years ago

Another brick in The Wall.

Exactly what is it that women get “too old” for? Last I checked the stats and Psychology Today show that men are the ones growing lonely, isolated and sad as they age, not women. Even the Manosphere says women are able to ride the carousel their entire lives, and still find betas willing to wife ’em up at any age. So even according to them, there’s no wall, really.

I guess the wall is an imagined age at which the menzzz “feel” women should become sad and lonely and hopeless. So if men age like fine wine, why are these men bitter like prunes, even in their youth?

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
4 years ago

@Alan,

I haven’t read that particular one, but I do like Alison Weir’s work very much. It’s on my list now 🙂

@Katamount,

Thanks for that. I do get where you’re coming from, I think. Recently Yassmin Abdel-Magied tweeted that whenever she visits a historic building, for example, she thinks not of the weight of tradition, or those commemorated, but of the people who laboured to build it, who are forgotten and lost. I’m kind of in the middle – I feel what Yassmin says, and I also go all shivery with awe at the history. So, no moral high ground here!
(btw everyone shd follow Yassmin as she absolutely rocks)

I think my point is that it’s always been there to represent something to everybody, rather than the fleeting ephemeral trappings of capitalism, like what kind of phone you use or what herbal tea you drink.

I’m more comfortable with the ephemeral, myself, but that could just be an adaptation to circumstance.

Unrelated to the above, but re your points on YouTube atheists etc. – others have said this too, and it’s pretty convincing. It was so easy to destroy creationists that these guys started to see themselves as paragons of intellect. I still feel sad at how “atheist” has become a byword for asshole.

Katamount
Katamount
4 years ago

@Surplus

If Wynne has her own riding in the bag — or indeed, if the winner of your riding is a foregone conclusion in general — you should probably just vote your conscience.

That’s the problem; it isn’t a foregone conclusion either way. Wynne has recognition and incumbency, but this is a riding full of wealthy people either looking to the PCs to cut their taxes or they’ve deluded themselves into thinking the PC candidate in Don Valley West is the second coming of Bill Davis and has enough spine to stand up to DoFo (he isn’t and he doesn’t.)

God, I hate this election. It’s like everyone around me hasn’t learned shit from the disaster that was Rob Ford, as if it was his crack use that was the problem. That was certainly what made him a laughingstock, but it was his flagrant corruption, fiscal mismanagement and terrible transit policies that really put a dent in this city that still hasn’t been ironed out yet.

*sigh* Memory is both a blessing and a curse.

@Mish

Another great point! Brings to mind the Doors Open tour of last year when I toured Riverside. The neighbourhood initially cropped up around a nearby quarry, and the workers lived in these quaint little cottages on De Grassi Street (yes, the street from the TV show).

Hambeast
Hambeast
4 years ago

re Jordan Peterson’s fans and lobster symbolism (vis-a-vis JP’s “enforced monogamy” comments) – I’d like to point out the elephant seal because between 30 and 70 percent of the males NEVER get to mate.

Should I get a t-shirt? Nah, elephant seals aren’t humans and neither are lobsters.

Now I’m gonna go finish that Youtube vid I started from Katamount’s link. Thanks, Katamount! Sounds interesting (three minutes in so far.)

DawnPurityseeker
DawnPurityseeker
4 years ago

Oh my, that Daily Stormer article that Alan linked.

“Let me just go ahead and drop a bomb on you here: white men do not “prey” on women. They do not pursue women they are attracted to long-term who are not giving them some kind of signals that they have reciprocal feelings of attraction towards them. If he was pursuing her long-term, it was because she was giving him signals.”

WHAT A TRUTH BOMB!

So what kind of “signals” could she have been giving him?

“The effect of this behavior [leading men on] is multiplied to the nth degree by the fact that women now are allowed to wear absurd amounts of makeup and dress in revealing clothing in public – a direct form of sexual harassment of men.

The direct male analog to this situation would be if men were allowed to go around and simply pull up the dress of any woman they found attractive and start penetrating her. Then ejaculate, and walk away. And there was no law or social norm stopping them from doing it, and women were shamed and punished if they objected to it.

That would be a type of sexual utopia for men at the expense of women – in theory – correct?

Well, what we modern society has done is create a sexual utopia for women – at the expense of men.”

[bracketed mine]

Yes, that is why all women should be forced to wear full body coverings so that the men will not be tempted to violence, but not burkas, because we wouldn’t want to mistreat our women like the brown people do.

[This post may have contained some sarCATism, bop at your own risk. ?]

Moon_custafer
Moon_custafer
4 years ago

Ah yes, when I wear eyeliner it’s exactly like I’m laying hands on people without their consent.

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
4 years ago

@Katamount:

If the Cons are competitive in your riding, then you should vote whichever of Lib or NDP has the better chance in that riding. Keep your eye on the polls — riding-specific ones if possible — up to election day, see which of them is ahead of which and has momentum. Keeping seats out of the hands of the Cons is a must.

@Mish, others:

If you are looking for a sense of permanency, of something that will outlast whatever foolishness humans are engaged in at the moment, what about nature? Old old trees, older hills and rivers. Sure it’s impermanent too, on long enough time scales, but there are trees some places that were already old when the Roman Empire was first rising, having maybe even first sprouted around the time the capstone was put on top of the Great Pyramid.

Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
Mish of the Catlady Ascendancy
4 years ago

@Surplus,

Like I said, I’m fairly happy with the ephemeral, myself, but I agree with you completely about nature, and that was beautifully put.
One tie to the past that I ‘get’ and feel quite envious of, is Australian indigenous people’s ties to the land here. It’s an ancient, ancient tradition, and as an added benefit, not predicated on erasing whole classes of people 🙂

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
4 years ago

@Mish: Thank you.

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