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It came from the comments: Artificial wombs will turn straight men gay because women suck

Makin’ babies

Another day, another drive-by misogynist commenter who ends up being even more terrible than the terrible people I wrote about in the post he’s commenting on.

Yes, it’s time for another episode of The Comments I Don’t Let Through. This time, it’s a guy calling himself DownWithWomen, commenting on my post about the lonely incel who wants a nice woman to pay attention to him — while at the same time he openly advertises his belief that women “deserve the rope.” That is, a good hanging.

DownWithWomen, by contrast, thinks that men won’t have to kill women, because women will kill themselves once the men of the world discover how awful they really are. The catalyst? Artificial wombs.

When artificial wombs are invented men won’t even have to do it, women will rope themselves as their sexual market value plus power that comes alongside it is completely destroyed.

Yet another creepy dude obsessed with (cis) women’s fertility.

But then the argument takes a somewhat unexpected turn:

[W]hen [women] start to diminish men will most likely find it viable to cross the x-y line in order to flock to cute-boys to settle down with, and marry whom don’t have the hypergamous instinct of biological females.

Incels and MGTOWs often joke about turning themselves gay in order to avoid the dreaded girl germs, but this guy is serious — if a little confused as to how sexual orientation actually works.

As soon as [artificial wombs] are invented we don’t have to put up with the bullshit of women anymore, cute-boys are more feminine than western females and always eager to please/available for sex to a partner.

Hate to tell you this dude, but I’m pretty sure the twinks of the world aren’t going to want to have sex with you either.

They are more of a woman than any western whore and at the same time if you pursue them now there is no trouble, and also no ridiculous laws on what rape is(Which is everything nowadays) protecting them.

Wait, your argument is that straight guys will turn to twinks because, hey, you can just rape them with impunity? 

Rape laws protect men too, you piece of shit.

The commenter then trots out the sad old argument that women only want macho “bad boys.”

Even if one marries a nice-guy he will only get used for his money, while she will continue to sleep around with the alpha male bad boys. The beta male nice guy will be forced to pour his resources into raising his child, which should be the responsibility of the other man and not him.

Never mind that this is not actually how the world works, and that the guys making this argument have zero proof that women routinely cheat on “betas” with “alphas” and use their allegedly superior sperm to make babies that the betas think are their own.

Women are biologically hypergamous, will always date and marry up, and even if in a relationship, a woman will immediately leave the man for a higher guy if she thinks she can land him.

And men sometimes leave women when they think they could “do better.” There’s no evidence that women are less loyal partners than men.

Women also sexually desire men who have a violent criminal record(Especially murder/assault/robbery/drugs/gangs being the top most “hot”) and wear tattoos/piercings on them. The jerks and badboys half of which being criminals, sometimes fresh out of prison/jail or bullies in school are straightforward about their sexual intentions; and masculine enough to press for it.

Well, first off, this is a giant pile of bullshit. And second, DUDE YOU JUST BASICALLY ANNOUNCED THAT YOU THINK IT WOULD BE OK FOR YOU TO RAPE GAY MEN.

You’re one of the “bad boys” you’re lambasting women for dating. Except even creepier.

But hey, thanks for sharing, I guess.

UPDATE: DownWithWomen has sent along an update of sorts:

We are talking about fem-boys you idiot. To sum things up here is a post from the 8chan /cuteboys/ section: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0R9eccUgEoH

As far as I can tell the board is devoted to young, femme gay men and crossdressers.

Fact is they are more of women than you, some claim to be straight but can be seduced still. They don’t complain often, and if they do try to cause an issue out of nowhere the gynocentric court won’t take them seriously.

So, doubling down on the rapey shit.

Women are not logical by biology, and 30% of babies born are not the husband’s baby but of alpha males.

This is not of course true. The 30% number gets bandied about because there was some study somewhere that found 30% of the time when the husband was concerned enough to demand a paternity test it turned out to not be his child.

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skybison
skybison
5 years ago

By Cute-boys I thought he meant pederasty.

I’d ask him what he meant but I don’t want to interact with him unless it involves placing him in some sort of isolated containment area where he will pose no danger to society.

numerobis
numerobis
5 years ago

My read of this disgusting screed also has cute-boy mapping better to ladyboy that to just a cute boy.

No matter, it’s disgusting.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
5 years ago

@banned
Ah! Little of option A, little of option B ?

Otrame
Otrame
5 years ago

I don’t think he meant trans women (though I could be wrong–he seems to have very little idea about anything human). I think he meant very “feminine” gay men.

Of course he knows nothing about the needs or interests of effeminate gay men. He knows the stereotypes, he knows what he imagines such men want. I knew a very effeminate gay man years ago, who would have cheerfully kicked this guy’s ass all over Madison, WI, at the mere suggestion that any self respecting gay man would want anything to do with this miserable creep.

People like creepy!guy should just go ahead and buy themselves a good sex doll. Sure a good quality item is expensive, but they last a long time and never ask you to treat them like they are actually people and have their own ideas and thoughts and stupid shit like that. A perfect solution to his problem.

Jayjay
Jayjay
5 years ago

Trouble is, sex dolls need to be cleaned up after using. I am sure Mr. Manly Man doesn’t DO things like cleaning, that is something only beta males do.

Stephen Twindale
5 years ago

I’m pretty sure you’ve never had sex, David.
I’m pretty sure this blog is a huge joke.

Tyler Roberts
5 years ago

Women also sexually desire men who have a violent criminal record

I can never understand why they think this. Especially when you consider that the looks of the type of women they think are attractive is usually tied up with affluence. Thin and fit, white, long hair, mainstream clothes, hair that isn’t dyed unless it’s dyed blonde. Basically a stereotypical college girl from a wealthy suburb. Do they really think those women are actually secretly dating/fucking ex-cons?

It’s a nitpick in all the awfulness on display in that comment but I always find it so odd that these guys think they’re competing with gang members for the highest in social status women that they think we should all look like. People generally partner with people from the same socioeconomic bracket. Misogynists just never seem to be remotely acquainted with reality.

False. Pretty coed types often do pursue criminals. Not necessarily gang members, but drug dealers with expensive cars.

Also, a person can be a violent criminal and live an upper middle class lifestyle at the same time.

Space Oddity
Space Oddity
5 years ago

I think it’s safe to say that this is a combination of mammoth ignorance and a great deal of internalized sexual confusion that he’s managed to convince himself doesn’t mean what it means. I pity this man, even as I dearly hope that he lives nowhere near me.

Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy

Ooh, a troll!

@ Mr Twindale:

I’m pretty sure you’ve never had sex, David.
I’m pretty sure this blog is a huge joke.

I’m pretty sure all that is wholly irrelevant.

@ Mr Roberts:
Citation, please. Also, often ≠ always (or AWALT, as you’ll see these Internet misogynists say).

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
5 years ago

@Stephen Twindale
I’m pretty sure that you’re wrong.
I’m pretty sure Incels are a huge joke.
@Tyler Roberts
Hey now, cite your sources, get your wall text ready.
You need to understand, your words aren’t self evident.

@Laugher at Bigots, Mincing Betaboy
If we’re lucky we’re getting a two for one package instead of the usual sock puppets of the same guy. Wait, since Trump lost bigly twice on his Muslim bans, and failed to deliver a 7 year long promise of killing Obamacare, that would mean alot of Trump supporters would be upset. Maybe even upset enough to come here and have a go.

skybison
skybison
5 years ago

@ Robert

False. Pretty Coed types naturally give off butter scented mind control gas that lets them mindslave any man they want.

I have about as much evidence for that claim as you do for yours.

I can understand thinking this blog must be an elaborate joke, but sadly MRAs are very real.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
5 years ago

@Stephen

I’m pretty sure you’ve never had sex, David

Strange thing to be so oddly sure about

I’m pretty sure this blog is a huge joke

I mean, I chuckle sometimes

@Tyler

drug dealers with expensive cars

What about drug dealers in jalopies?

PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
PeeVee the (Noice) Sarcastic
5 years ago

Stephen Twindale, why did you change your name to Tyler Roberts for your next post?

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
5 years ago

Why did the troll post under two different names at about the same time?

False. Pretty coed types often do pursue criminals. Not necessarily gang members, but drug dealers with expensive cars.

What’s your definition of often? I never saw it when I was in college. In fact, I have never met one single woman who specifically pursues criminals. Most of the women I’ve known range from lower middle to upper middle class. Many are college educated. None have ever actively chased criminals. I mean, I’ve known small time pot dealers who’ve had girlfriends, but that’s not exactly the violent thug mentioned in the OP.

Also, a person can be a violent criminal and live an upper middle class lifestyle at the same time.

If you’re talking abusers or rapists who are insulated by their privilege and have never faced legal consequences for violence against women, I agree with you. If you think that economically privileged guys wind up with rap sheets or that men with extensive criminal records become mcmansion dwelling upper middle class people later in life, you must live in some sort of alternate dimension.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee
5 years ago

Women are not logical by biology, and 30% of babies born are not the husband’s baby but of alpha males.

If alpha males have the superior and attractive genes but beta males make the best providers, it’s actually quite logical to marry a beta and cheat with an alpha for reproduction. It’s not very nice, but it is rational.

FWIW, I’m pretty sure I have had sex. With another person, even!

Normally we females would not have sex with a non-thug male such as yourself. However, you do such a good job shilling for the gynocentric agenda that Katie sends some honeypots to you from time to time.

What? Was I not supposed to say that?

Carayak
Carayak
5 years ago

I listened to that vocal clip posted as “explanation” for “cute-boys”. I love any argument that relies on the demonstrably false premise that non-human animals have no homosexuality. Doesn’t matter how many mated pairs of gay penguins raise eggs together in zoos, people still never get the memo. I read a Playboy interview with Anita Bryant written in the seventies where she claimed no non-humans have homosexual behavior, and the interviewer was able to correct her right away, so it’s not like this is cutting-edge information here.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
5 years ago

Fact is they are more of women than you

Nah

some claim to be straight but can be seduced still

Ewww

if they do try to cause an issue out of nowhere the gynocentric court won’t take them seriously

Remember when that Susan troll was convinced we didn’t give a shit about male assault/abuse survivors? Didn’t work out for her either

Women are not logical by biology

I don’t even know…

30% of babies born are not the husband’s baby but of alpha males

50% of Americans are or have at some point been married. Given that, I’d guess a whole helluva lot more babies born aren’t the husband’s. Why, its almost like this stat is missing hella context

@Carayak

mated pairs of gay penguins raise eggs together in zoos

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Gets me every time *melts into goo*

Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
Viscaria, product of 20,000 evolution
5 years ago

I can’t believe two entirely different people who just happen to have the exact same automatically-generated gravatar have both come to show us the error of our ways at the very same time. I mean, I literally don’t believe it.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@Tyler Roberts

False. Pretty coed types often do pursue criminals.

“Pretty coed types.” Snort. I didn’t know anybody still used the sexist term “coed” anymore. I’m curious: Do you also call men who integrate a traditionally female college “coeds”?

And where do you get your information about female college students (pretty or not) pursuing criminals? I’ve been to college. I knew some women there. I read the daily college newspaper. I overheard a lot of talk in my dorm, in class, in the cafeteria, and on my way in between any of those destinations. Never once did I hear about a fellow student — pretty or not, or even female or not — pursuing a criminal.

Oh wait — you’re getting your information from porn, aren’t you.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
5 years ago

OT: Just, mad
Short story SidAlpha is a reviewer and semi reporter of gaming news regarding Youtube copyright abuses by indie game devs. He states multiple times he would stand for the little guy. I thought that because he was recommended by Jim, that he’d be a swell dude. Admittingly for many months he was. And then this shit pops in my feed.

The irony of cognitive dissonance is thicker than tar. Yeah on my side, but as soon as some racist gets punished for being a racist shithead, they defend the celebrity. I’m already sick of people that pretty much lipservice conservatives, I don’t need to be reminded that people who say they’re my ally, defend those that would love nothing more than to exterminate people like me.

Screw this I’m going to go watch the latest episode of Samurai Jack before I help my grandma walk to Temple tomorrow morning.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@Stephen Twindale

I’m pretty sure you’ve never had sex, David.
I’m pretty sure this blog is a huge joke.

1. How would you know whether David has had sex? Cite examples of his writing that lead to your conclusion.

2. What’s the joke? Be specific.

Extra credit:
Can you tell whether I’ve had sex? Cite examples of my writing that lead to your conclusion.

zaunfink
zaunfink
5 years ago

@Kat

Oh, I wanna try!

David is a snivelling beta, underling of the gynocracy (hey, my phone knows that word!) AND he owns cats. While women might have sex with a beta for providing, since David has no kids, that’s one strike. Second strike: as a useful traitor to all menzes everywhere and agent of the gynocracy, we can’t risk him discovering how horrible feeeeemales really are, so we’ve obviously kept his contact with them to ugly/non-blonde/etc or online ones, so he doesn’t have the chance to get cooties.
And third: cats are the sure sign of a spinster who doesn’t get laid, even if they’re male. There are no sex having men who own cats.

As for you – you’re a filthy feminist, which you only are if you’re not getting laid and want all menzes destroyed in revenge for not gracing you with their liquid fucking gold.

Incidentally, I’ve just proven I’m still a virgin, seeing how my fiance has a cat and as such, we can never have had sex. My market value is up! Yay!

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@zaunfink
Hah! You may think that DownWithWomen would say that your sexual market value (SMV) is up because you are (at least self-described and at least according to some tortuous logic) a virgin.

But I’m pretty sure that DownWithWomen would say that you’re a virgin because you’ve got problems. Lots and lots of problems. So no, your SMV is low. And because you are aging (you are about 20 minutes older than when you wrote your comment), your SMV is on a steep decline.

Not so for DownWithWomen, who — judging by his name alone — is so charming that his SMV can only go from strength to strength.

EJ (Marxist Jazz Weasel)

False. Pretty coed types often do pursue criminals. Not necessarily gang members, but drug dealers with expensive cars.

Surely you wouldn’t say something like that without a proper study to stand behind it. That wouldn’t be the rational thing to do.

@WWTH:
I can tell from context that “coed” means “woman”, but I haven’t heard it before. What’s the etymology?

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