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“Women can’t be trusted with voting, free speech, or power,” Alt-right blogger declares

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Women destroying civilization

Most Men’s Rights Activists who wish women didn’t have the right to vote are savvy enough not to say so outright. Instead, they make up fairy tales about how men’s right to vote (at least here in the US) is contingent on men signing up for the draft.

This isn’t actually true — when the draft was abolished in 1973, men weren’t suddenly stripped of their voting rights. And while it is true that young men in the US have been required to register for the draft since 1980, there is no draft, nor will there be one at any point in the forseeable future, making registration about as much of a burden as signing a pledge that you won’t sprout wings and fly to the moon.

But not every anti-suffragette resorts to this sort of sophistry. Take, for example, the Alt-Rightster and woman-voting-opposer Axel Mckibbin.

In a recent post on his blog The Anti-puritan, McKibbin argues that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote because they’re a bunch of lazy, emotional, dishonest, irresponsible and irrational cowards who will bring Western civilization crashing down around us if they aren’t stripped of their power, and soon.

In a post with the lovely title “Why women can’t be trusted with voting, free speech, national budgets, or power,” Mckibbin sets forth his case against women.

It’s not a very original one. He starts off by contrasting the rational, data-driven approach he thinks men bring to complicated problems with the emotional, irrational “feminine method.” As he sees it,

Men argue or accommodate information they don’t like, women stifle upsetting discussion with emotional tyranny and censorship, or simply bury their heads in the sand.

This wouldn’t be much of a problem if women had no power whatsoever, but for some silly reason men gave women the vote — and the world has been going down the toilet ever since.

[S]ince women have achieved the right to vote, power has shifted from the masculine to the feminine, and thus, from logic to tantrums, from debate to censorship.

Tantrums, huh? I guess he’s right. I’ve never seen men throwing tantrums when people disagree with them.

Oh wait.

Ok, ok, ladies! Don’t throw a fit about this! Let’s just assume that fellow is an outlier, and move on.

Like the rational, data-driven dude he is, McKibbin then throws out a free-associational list of all the things he thinks the ladies are doing wrongly and badly and femininely. Naturally, he provides no evidence for any of his assertions.

It is not a coincidence that the most challenging academic disciplines and hazardous jobs are male dominated. Women are psychologically, not just physically, weaker than men. They choose the easy road in everything. They censor rather than debate honestly in women’s studies departments. They chose easy majors that pay less. They chose easy low paying jobs rather than dangerous/difficult high paying ones. They lie about wage gaps rather than take responsibility and do difficult work.

Then, without even a pause for a paragraph break, he essentially accuses women of being a bunch of lying false rape accusers.

They believe that regret constitutes rape when they could instead take responsibility for their sexual choices.

And then, again without a pause, he offers what is either a weird, out-of-place dig at Hillary Clinton … or a suggestion that all the women of the world routinely mishandle top-secret material.

The screw up classified emails rather than do a minimum of ass-covering. They hate white men who they disagree with rather than Muslims who rape them.

Dude, I’m pretty sure women do hate Muslims — and Christians, and Hindus, and atheists — who rape them. They’re just a little less likely to blame all Muslims (or Christians, or Hindus, or atheists) for the actions of some Muslims, or Christians or, well, you know the rest.

Whenever a female is given a choice, she will choose the cowardly, dishonest, low agency method rather than the courageous, honest, high agency masculine method.

Yes, this is an actual sentence a human being wrote.

She would rather have handouts than balanced budgets for her children’s futures. She would rather censor than be upset. She would rather falsely accuse men of rape than take responsibility for her sexual choices when drunk.

And he’s back on that false accusation thing.

She would rather get divorced than work through the rough patches. She would rather vote stupidly for Bernie than understand economics. She would rather have a 15 dollar minimum wage than a job.

Uh, maybe because raising the minimum wage won’t actually cost us jobs?

She would rather vote for the wage increase than study the issues.

Or maybe she already studied the issue?

She would rather have alimony and child-support than a lasting marriage.

Or perhaps she would simply like to get out of a miserable marriage. And would like the father of her children to continue to pay some of the costs of raising them.

 

As I have said in other places, democracy is the ethnic form of government of white males. It is designed for high agency individuals of relatively equal capacity and relatively high intelligence. It simply does not work for low agency people.

Ah, racism. It’s about time you showed up. It wouldn’t be a true alt-right rant without some racism to go with all this misogyny.

To a male the state is a series of threats, to a female a series of benefits. Women cannot be drafted (yet), they are arrested at much lower rates, and given shorter sentences for the same crimes.

Hey, he managed to work the non-existent draft into the equation!

Men are arrested much more often than women, it’s true; they also commit many more crimes. The best way to reduce the number of men arrested for bullshit charges? Get the cops to stop racial profiling. And end the war on drugs.

Women do tend to get somewhat shorter sentences for the same crimes. This is partly because the men committing the same crimes tend to have longer criminal records. It’s also because some male judges are more likely to treat women more leniently. Female judges tend to be more egalitarian in their sentencing.

Despite men being victims of domestic violence, only women have state-supported domestic violence shelters.

Most shelters get only a small portion of their funding from the government. Many if not most also provide shelter for men in the form of hotel vouchers. There’s nothing stopping Men’s Rights activists from building shelters for men. Aside from the fact that they’re Men’s Rights activists, and MRAs don’t actually do crap for men. 

Only men can be successfully prosecuted for raping women, despite the fact that women also rape men. Women get preferential treatment and custody in family courts. Men are essentially guilty until proven innocent in affirmative consent states.

None of this is true. Women are prosecuted — successfullyfor rape. It doesn’t happen a lot, but it happens, and will almost certainly happen more in the future.

While more women than men get custody, that’s not the result of bias. In the overwhelming majority of cases, it’s because that’s what the divorcing parents agree to out of court. When men do go to court to ask for custody they often get it.

“Affirmative consent” laws apply to colleges, not criminal law, and they actually go a long way to clearing up anxieties about consent between partners. If you get an enthusiastic “yes” from a partner who is’t wasted before having sex, well, you know you have consent.

Men are taxed at higher rates.

If they earn more, yes.

Women receive benefits that men don’t. Since only women get custody, only women qualify for welfare. Even WIC means Women Infant Children program.

WIC is designed to provide assistance so poor kids don’t starve to death. Despite the name, WIC provides food vouchers and nutrition classes to men responsible for kids getting fed. True, it doesn’t provide cis men with the same benefits it provides pregnant and breastfeeding women, but that’s because cis men do not get pregnant.

The state treats males as disposable in war, letting them die homeless on the streets while paying females with five baby daddies to get pregnant at the taxpayer expense and receive food stamps.

Yes, it’s terrible that the government provides minimal assistance to keep babies and young children from starving. A quick Google search would have told you that men and women without children can also get food stamps.

It attacks marriage and men with alimony and child-support. The state is nothing but threats for men and benefits for women.

You know, rich women can end up paying alimony just like rich men. Fathers raising kids are entitled to child support from their exes, just as mothers are. And again, child support is designed to support children.

This is why women cannot be trusted with national budgets. Even if a woman possesses the courage to engage with uncomfortable facts she still has a disincentive to defend her national interest.

Er, what? Is it somehow in our national interest to let kids starve?

Combine with low agency she works to destroy her society, letting in rapugees, voting for handouts, creating guilty until innocent rape laws, censoring males in the workplace, filing bogus sexual harassment charges, and on and on. Here, low agency and incentives make her nothing but a threat to civilization.

Or at least to that portion of civilization that thinks it’s hilarious to make awful sexist jokes at work.

Her right to vote is a right to destroy other’s rights with redistribution, censorship, and false rape accusations, to bring in hostile raping refugees while attacking the conservative men who defend her as racists, even though Islam is not a race!

Yeah, it’s just a big coincidence that so many of the people the alt-right hate tend to be black or brown.

She will get a Muslim America in the bargain for her efforts. Women will never take equal responsibility, have equal agency, or be equally courageous. Strip them of power before they destroy civilization.

Honestly, the biggest threat to civilization right now is named Donald Trump, and women are a good deal more likely to vote against him than men.

I say, let’s keep women’s suffrage, at least for now.

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Scildfreja
Scildfreja
10 years ago

Interesting, the focus on ugliness. Was just having a conversation with the other visitor, Dustin, in another thread about the topic of ugliness.

What you see in the world is a reflection of what’s in your heart, Jason. What hurt you so badly to make you see the world so dark?

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
10 years ago

Gay people are fucked in the head – just like lesbians. It’s not enough to have the right parts for these people. They insist on breaking the rules.

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Jason, sweetie – don’t go for the “it ain’t natural” argument. Homosexual behaviour is documented all over the animal kingdom. Gay sex of all stripes is as natural as sunshine and rainbows.

Bats actually have the highest recorded instances of homosexual behavior. They’re also the sole pollinator of agave. This means tequila is the gayest drink.

http://www.holidaywinecellar.com/images/Product/large/30347.jpg

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
10 years ago

oh – oh dear, I appear to have broken the law. And again!

Will no one stop my rampant crime spree?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

Gay people are fucked in the head – just like lesbians. It’s not enough to have the right parts for these people. They insist on breaking the rules.

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isidore13
isidore13
10 years ago

Does anyone else find Jason’s arguments just like super telling? He clearly knows white cis straight men still have the power.

Jason
Jason
10 years ago

In South Africa, tens of thousands of whites are killed and no one from the progressive left breaths a word. If you’re a white in Mexico – dare not leave the white people enclave. South America is now touted as the American retirement destination – yet South America is really the place where white Americans go to die at the hands of white hating South Americans and Mexicans.

Jason is not your average dupe. Try again.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

Does anyone else find Jason’s arguments just like super telling?

He has arguments? I hadn’t noticed any.

isidore13
isidore13
10 years ago

Oh my god, he’s now referred to himself in the third person. I lol’d.

@PoM, you’re right, I didn’t mean arguments, I just meant the stuff he says.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago
Scildfreja
Scildfreja
10 years ago

Hm…

Jason, where do you get your statistics? Do you know how to read them?

Jason
Jason
10 years ago

“He has arguments? I hadn’t noticed any.”

“Oh my god, he’s now referred to himself in the third person. I lol’d.”

Typical Frankfurt school Marxist Leftists. You have nothing left to say – so you say “he’s referred to himself in the third person…” “He has arguments…”

Jason
Jason
10 years ago

The title of this thread refutes the premise that women can be trusted with truth and honesty. I think women themselves have proven the point.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
10 years ago

Jason, where do you get your statistics? Do you know how to read them?

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
10 years ago

Typical Frankfurt school Marxist Leftists. You have nothing left to say – so you say “he’s referred to himself in the third person…” “He has arguments…”

HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH HAH

The title of this thread refutes the premise that women can be trusted with truth and honesty. I think women themselves have proven the point.

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Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
10 years ago

@ Jason

I’ll be honest Jason, you do intrigue me a bit. I would be honestly grateful if you’d indulge me by answering some questions I have.

How old are you?
What’s your background?
How do you arrive at the conclusion you’re a warlike person?
What skills do you think you have that will make you dominant after society collapses; as opposed to a slave or food for someone stronger?

What do you seek to achieve by posting here?
You probably realise the majority of commentators are women. If you’re MGTOW why do you even engage with them? Isn’t your core principle to have nothing to do with them?

If you’re trying to reach out to the men here (as evidenced by your injunction to read MGTOW stuff) why is that? Are you trying to save us from ourselves? Are you suggesting the MGTOW lifestyle should appeal to us?

If so, what are your arguments for that? What are your key selling points?
Most of us here enjoy the company and friendship of women. Our personal experiences don’t tally with your assertions. We find the MGTOW lifestyle repellant. So what’s your main argument for why we should ‘swap brands’ as it were?

Lot of questions I appreciate, but I would genuinely welcome your answers.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
10 years ago

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Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
10 years ago

Try again.

Kid, you’re not fucking Eric Draven. You’re just another pissant Nazivorous candiru in a shallow but toxic sea of pissant Nazivorous candirus, delivering the same tired talking points in the same tired monologue as a thousand shartwits before you and a thousand shartwits after. You ain’t special.

GenJones
GenJones
10 years ago

That’s why women didn’t enter the job market until the job market was safe and favorable for women to enter. Women waited until it was to their advantage over men to work. That’s why women now demand entry into the US military. They don’t have to worry about consequences for women – because men will be sent to die for women like always.

Bullshit. Men, women and children all had to work their asses off to get enough to eat and survive through the winter since the before the beginning of civilization. How incredible simple would you have to be to actually believe it was even logistically possible for men to provide all the labor and goods necessary while half the human race just sat around doing nothing? Only the upper classes had that luxury, but the women of the lower working classes (ie, the largest proportion of society) had to pay their dues like everyone else. And from a very early age, since education was a luxury.

It’s only recently that women in western society have had access to jobs that allowed them to advance beyond the lowest economic ladder. Prior to that women were only considered capable of drudgery that was considered beneath the male intellect. Women and children worked in mines, mills and factories and suffered workplace related maimings and death in droves. Even coal mining only became an adult “man’s job” after the labor rights movement won safety regulations and fair wages. In fact, most of the tasks women did in mines have been replaced by heavy machinery, tasks even modern miners would never submit to.

http://www.futilitycloset.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/2012-09-09-colliery-reports1.png
http://web.clark.edu/afisher/HIST253/lecture_text/WomenWorkingClassIndustrial%20Revolution.pdf

In fact, women often had to shoulder a disproportionate amount of the basic labor since every time there was a male youth bulge another war would get started. Since women’s authority was limited to domestic servitude or lowest labor, they really had little to no influence on these political decisions. Men don’t need to destroy and exploit each other for women’s behalf, they will cheerfully do it for their own selfish gain. Such is the nature of our tribalistic social hierarchy.

Women also must suffer the consequences of war, occupation and subsequent poverty and social unrest, and the ratio of civilian collateral damage is upwards of half of all the deaths from war. Women who weren’t young or pretty enough to be “spared” as sex slaves were slaughtered just like everyone else.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio
Are 90% of all war victims civilians?
http://www.unicef.org/graca/patterns.htm

Jason is not your average dupe.

No, you’re an incredibly below-average dupe. Not only are your comments objectively incorrect on every level, they demonstrate a complete ignorance of historical fact and a total disconnect from reality and basic common sense. FAIL.

Jason
Jason
10 years ago

“I’ll be honest Jason, you do intrigue me a bit. I would be honestly grateful if you’d indulge me by answering some questions I have.”

“How old are you?”

Too old.

“What’s your background?”

Parents divorced at 13. Went to work at 13. Went through many a man-hating experience with women in relationships. I still hope to cut my ex wife’s head off. That bitch is the epitome of man hate.

“How do you arrive at the conclusion you’re a warlike person?”

Can’t legally explain it all without incriminating myself.

“What skills do you think you have that will make you dominant after society collapses; as opposed to a slave or food for someone stronger?”

People like me – we just survive. I’ve always survived. I’ve faced the enemy in the military as well – so I have some vestige of respect for myself. I stood proud and walked tall where others folded. I know who I am.

“What do you seek to achieve by posting here?”

To warn others – others like the total tool I used to be.

“You probably realize the majority of commentators are women. If you’re MGTOW, why do you even engage with them? Isn’t your core principle to have nothing to do with them?”

It’s too much fun to let them be. I love nothing more than picking on feminists.

“If you’re trying to reach out to the men here (as evidenced by your injunction to read MGTOW stuff) why is that? Are you trying to save us from ourselves? Are you suggesting the MGTOW lifestyle should appeal to us?”

Absolutely. Women are shit.

“If so, what are your arguments for that? What are your key selling points?”

You can’t ask me a question like that and expect a short answer. I could fill a book full of pages on this one question alone. Trust me – you’re in danger.

“Most of us here enjoy the company and friendship of women. Our personal experiences don’t tally with your assertions. We find the MGTOW lifestyle repellent. So what’s your main argument for why we should ‘swap brands’ as it were?”

You’re naive. One day, you’ll awaken – and it won’t feel good. You’ll think of this comment and wish you’d taken my advice.

“Lot of questions I appreciate, but I would genuinely welcome unique answers.”

I’ll gladly give you the best answers I can – but you don’t sound ready to hear the truth.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
10 years ago

Isn’t Alan between 40 to 60 years old? (I don’t remember sorry.) I doubt he’s anywhere near naive by now, especially since he’s a lawyer to boot. He would be the opposite of naive, I’m sure.

kupo
kupo
10 years ago

Oh, how edgy. Now I’m scared.

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GenJones
GenJones
10 years ago

Your life story is not a uniquely male experience. Sounds like you have a lot in common with every other co-dependent who attracted a series of bad relationships, and a lot of women have been in your shoes. What really sets apart the weak characters from the strong is the kind of person they become as a result. There’s a reason why so many abused go on to take the mantle of the abuser themselves. That’s why they call it a cycle, some just people go full circle and alleviate their pain and anger by displacing it onto others.

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