
Most Men’s Rights Activists who wish women didn’t have the right to vote are savvy enough not to say so outright. Instead, they make up fairy tales about how men’s right to vote (at least here in the US) is contingent on men signing up for the draft.
This isn’t actually true — when the draft was abolished in 1973, men weren’t suddenly stripped of their voting rights. And while it is true that young men in the US have been required to register for the draft since 1980, there is no draft, nor will there be one at any point in the forseeable future, making registration about as much of a burden as signing a pledge that you won’t sprout wings and fly to the moon.
But not every anti-suffragette resorts to this sort of sophistry. Take, for example, the Alt-Rightster and woman-voting-opposer Axel Mckibbin.
In a recent post on his blog The Anti-puritan, McKibbin argues that women shouldn’t be allowed to vote because they’re a bunch of lazy, emotional, dishonest, irresponsible and irrational cowards who will bring Western civilization crashing down around us if they aren’t stripped of their power, and soon.
In a post with the lovely title “Why women can’t be trusted with voting, free speech, national budgets, or power,” Mckibbin sets forth his case against women.
It’s not a very original one. He starts off by contrasting the rational, data-driven approach he thinks men bring to complicated problems with the emotional, irrational “feminine method.” As he sees it,
Men argue or accommodate information they don’t like, women stifle upsetting discussion with emotional tyranny and censorship, or simply bury their heads in the sand.
This wouldn’t be much of a problem if women had no power whatsoever, but for some silly reason men gave women the vote — and the world has been going down the toilet ever since.
[S]ince women have achieved the right to vote, power has shifted from the masculine to the feminine, and thus, from logic to tantrums, from debate to censorship.
Tantrums, huh? I guess he’s right. I’ve never seen men throwing tantrums when people disagree with them.
Oh wait.
Ok, ok, ladies! Don’t throw a fit about this! Let’s just assume that fellow is an outlier, and move on.
Like the rational, data-driven dude he is, McKibbin then throws out a free-associational list of all the things he thinks the ladies are doing wrongly and badly and femininely. Naturally, he provides no evidence for any of his assertions.
It is not a coincidence that the most challenging academic disciplines and hazardous jobs are male dominated. Women are psychologically, not just physically, weaker than men. They choose the easy road in everything. They censor rather than debate honestly in women’s studies departments. They chose easy majors that pay less. They chose easy low paying jobs rather than dangerous/difficult high paying ones. They lie about wage gaps rather than take responsibility and do difficult work.
Then, without even a pause for a paragraph break, he essentially accuses women of being a bunch of lying false rape accusers.
They believe that regret constitutes rape when they could instead take responsibility for their sexual choices.
And then, again without a pause, he offers what is either a weird, out-of-place dig at Hillary Clinton … or a suggestion that all the women of the world routinely mishandle top-secret material.
The screw up classified emails rather than do a minimum of ass-covering. They hate white men who they disagree with rather than Muslims who rape them.
Dude, I’m pretty sure women do hate Muslims — and Christians, and Hindus, and atheists — who rape them. They’re just a little less likely to blame all Muslims (or Christians, or Hindus, or atheists) for the actions of some Muslims, or Christians or, well, you know the rest.
Whenever a female is given a choice, she will choose the cowardly, dishonest, low agency method rather than the courageous, honest, high agency masculine method.
Yes, this is an actual sentence a human being wrote.
She would rather have handouts than balanced budgets for her children’s futures. She would rather censor than be upset. She would rather falsely accuse men of rape than take responsibility for her sexual choices when drunk.
And he’s back on that false accusation thing.
She would rather get divorced than work through the rough patches. She would rather vote stupidly for Bernie than understand economics. She would rather have a 15 dollar minimum wage than a job.
Uh, maybe because raising the minimum wage won’t actually cost us jobs?
She would rather vote for the wage increase than study the issues.
Or maybe she already studied the issue?
She would rather have alimony and child-support than a lasting marriage.
Or perhaps she would simply like to get out of a miserable marriage. And would like the father of her children to continue to pay some of the costs of raising them.
As I have said in other places, democracy is the ethnic form of government of white males. It is designed for high agency individuals of relatively equal capacity and relatively high intelligence. It simply does not work for low agency people.
Ah, racism. It’s about time you showed up. It wouldn’t be a true alt-right rant without some racism to go with all this misogyny.
To a male the state is a series of threats, to a female a series of benefits. Women cannot be drafted (yet), they are arrested at much lower rates, and given shorter sentences for the same crimes.
Hey, he managed to work the non-existent draft into the equation!
Men are arrested much more often than women, it’s true; they also commit many more crimes. The best way to reduce the number of men arrested for bullshit charges? Get the cops to stop racial profiling. And end the war on drugs.
Women do tend to get somewhat shorter sentences for the same crimes. This is partly because the men committing the same crimes tend to have longer criminal records. It’s also because some male judges are more likely to treat women more leniently. Female judges tend to be more egalitarian in their sentencing.
Despite men being victims of domestic violence, only women have state-supported domestic violence shelters.
Most shelters get only a small portion of their funding from the government. Many if not most also provide shelter for men in the form of hotel vouchers. There’s nothing stopping Men’s Rights activists from building shelters for men. Aside from the fact that they’re Men’s Rights activists, and MRAs don’t actually do crap for men.
Only men can be successfully prosecuted for raping women, despite the fact that women also rape men. Women get preferential treatment and custody in family courts. Men are essentially guilty until proven innocent in affirmative consent states.
None of this is true. Women are prosecuted — successfully — for rape. It doesn’t happen a lot, but it happens, and will almost certainly happen more in the future.
While more women than men get custody, that’s not the result of bias. In the overwhelming majority of cases, it’s because that’s what the divorcing parents agree to out of court. When men do go to court to ask for custody they often get it.
“Affirmative consent” laws apply to colleges, not criminal law, and they actually go a long way to clearing up anxieties about consent between partners. If you get an enthusiastic “yes” from a partner who is’t wasted before having sex, well, you know you have consent.
Men are taxed at higher rates.
If they earn more, yes.
Women receive benefits that men don’t. Since only women get custody, only women qualify for welfare. Even WIC means Women Infant Children program.
WIC is designed to provide assistance so poor kids don’t starve to death. Despite the name, WIC provides food vouchers and nutrition classes to men responsible for kids getting fed. True, it doesn’t provide cis men with the same benefits it provides pregnant and breastfeeding women, but that’s because cis men do not get pregnant.
The state treats males as disposable in war, letting them die homeless on the streets while paying females with five baby daddies to get pregnant at the taxpayer expense and receive food stamps.
Yes, it’s terrible that the government provides minimal assistance to keep babies and young children from starving. A quick Google search would have told you that men and women without children can also get food stamps.
It attacks marriage and men with alimony and child-support. The state is nothing but threats for men and benefits for women.
You know, rich women can end up paying alimony just like rich men. Fathers raising kids are entitled to child support from their exes, just as mothers are. And again, child support is designed to support children.
This is why women cannot be trusted with national budgets. Even if a woman possesses the courage to engage with uncomfortable facts she still has a disincentive to defend her national interest.
Er, what? Is it somehow in our national interest to let kids starve?
Combine with low agency she works to destroy her society, letting in rapugees, voting for handouts, creating guilty until innocent rape laws, censoring males in the workplace, filing bogus sexual harassment charges, and on and on. Here, low agency and incentives make her nothing but a threat to civilization.
Or at least to that portion of civilization that thinks it’s hilarious to make awful sexist jokes at work.
Her right to vote is a right to destroy other’s rights with redistribution, censorship, and false rape accusations, to bring in hostile raping refugees while attacking the conservative men who defend her as racists, even though Islam is not a race!
Yeah, it’s just a big coincidence that so many of the people the alt-right hate tend to be black or brown.
She will get a Muslim America in the bargain for her efforts. Women will never take equal responsibility, have equal agency, or be equally courageous. Strip them of power before they destroy civilization.
Honestly, the biggest threat to civilization right now is named Donald Trump, and women are a good deal more likely to vote against him than men.
I say, let’s keep women’s suffrage, at least for now.


” Women use men to destroy other men on women’s behalf
Would you mind providing some examples to back up that statement?
Aside from the Great Bon-Bon Wars of the 19th Century I can’t think of any occasions where that’s been the case. Willing to be educated though.”
Women use men to destroy other men all throughout their lives. Women first recognize the power they have over men when they witness their own father’s meeting out anger based on gender. Where do you think VAWA and Affirmative Consent originated?
Women are not sugar and spice and everything nice. Many scholars blame the fall of Rome on feminism. You seriously need me to teach you this? Let me guess – your father was a mother.
Read MGTOW boards. MGTOW is about denying women the ring of power and mitigating women’s life destroying power over men.
Never give a woman the ring of power. Never give a woman the power to destroy you legally, financially or physically.
Women are Satan’s breath. That may not make sense in the short term, but it will in the long.
So in other words, you have neither science nor history to cite to back up that assertion.
Allow me to express my shock.
You’re getting closer to “statements that have a logical connection” but you’re still not quite there yet. “Girls observe men committing domestic violence on women” and “women have power over men” are not actually connected in any logical way. I mean, you’ve got a domestic violence theme here, but a theme isn’t good enough for a logical argument. You have to demonstrate that fathers are beating up their families because the women have all the power in some kind of progression. That’s your conclusion, so you can’t use it as a premise.
Nope, that makes perfect sense right now. It’s the most reasonable thing you’ve said yet.
Three Rings for the Rise-of-kings under the sky,
Seven for the chan-lords in their forums of stone,
Nine for MRAs doomed to die,
One for the Katie on her dark throne
In the Land of the Matriarchs where the Shadows lie.
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of the Matriarchs where the Shadows lie.
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Women only care about women. Women use men to further women’s causes. That’s why women didn’t enter the job market until the job market was safe and favorable for women to enter. Women waited until it was to their advantage over men to work. That’s why women now demand entry into the US military. They don’t have to worry about consequences for women – because men will be sent to die for women like always.
Men – women are born cowards. Women are the #1 threat to men’s lives. Read and reread everything I’ve written. Women are men’s worst enemies – even as “mothers”.
Women are succubi.
Gob Bluth gifs are a pretty good representation of Jason’s post.
Here Jason is, trying to make an argument that is even remotely rational or based on reality
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Here’s Jason and every other troll ever
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Well, Cleopatra was a smart, well-educated, sole leader of Egypt over, um, 2000 years ago? Probably took Egypt from her brother whom she married with her feminine wiles and even seduced Antony and Caesar according to old, upper-class white men a few decades back. Clearly if feminism wasn’t around, her destroying Egypt and Rome wouldn’t have happened.
@ Jason
I’ve checked my Gray’s Anatomy, and I’ll give you that one.
Please name one. I’m a bit of a Roman history buff and I’ve not seen that put forward in any of the literature, and were taking about books that include the theory that it’s all down to lead pipes. (I subscribe to the ‘got too big, the money was in the Eastern Empire so abandon the unprofitable bit’ school myself)
Nope, he was a wool sorter. Knows a lot about sheep.
And you still haven’t really put forward any evidence for your hypothesis that women lead men to fight to the death for them. Assertions are not evidence.
“And… you think this makes men better than women? Like, seriously? I think it’s pretty misandrist, myself, your assumption that all men view women as nothing more than pussy.
If you weren’t such an obviously violent person, I might pity you. That’s a lot of hate and anger to carry around.
Genuinely curious – where do gay people fit in your worldview? I mean both men and women.”
Who controls the narrative now? The overwhelmingly heterosexual white people, or the illegal aliens, transgendered and lesbian/gay man haters?
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Reading this posts, I have to ask – is “Jason” a non-sequitur generating bot?
>>Your assertions require evidence.
>>>BANANAS AND STRAWBERRIES ARE SWEET BUT VILE.
Ohhhkay.
(ohmigod PoM I choked on my cider)
Not a very accurate representation. That sentence has a subject and verb and it flows naturally through the predicate to communicate an idea.
Who controls the narrative now? The overwhelmingly heterosexual white people, or the illegal aliens, transgendered and lesbian/gay man haters?
Hey, hey, there’s a newer animation.
You’re repeating yourself now. Here, have a soothing voorwerp.
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/wiredscience/2011/01/hannys-voorwerp-wiyn.jpg
Women will vote for whomever gives women the most free stuff – which is why women are cowards, ready to throw their own son’s lives to the enemy and why Hitlary Clinton is an ISIS war hero.
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Jason thought this comment was so important it had to be stated twice.
I do want to ask what he means by lesbian/gay man haters. It appears to mean lesbians and gay men. So, are gay men man haters? It doesn’t make any sense.
In any case, it provides me the opportunity to post more Arrested Development gifs
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The heterosexual white people control the narrative, Jason.
They just don’t have absolute control anymore. The other voices are finally able to raise up.
It just feels like hetero cis white people aren’t in control anymore to them, because they have lost some of that control.
It’s hard, but fair! I heard you less progressive types liked things being tough but fair. No?
Gay people are fucked in the head – just like lesbians. It’s not enough to have the right parts for these people. They insist on breaking the rules.
“It’s hard, but fair! I heard you less progressive types liked things being tough but fair. No?”
“Fair” is probably the wrong word. I’d personally use the word “FUCKING UGLY!”
That’s a really interesting thing I’ve noticed about the Arch Conservatives – it’s always about Rule Breaking. Gay and Lesbian people aren’t doing it cause it’s how they feel, it’s because they want to Break The Rules. Atheists don’t actually believe God doesn’t exist, they just want to Break the Rules.
Jason, sweetie – don’t go for the “it ain’t natural” argument. Homosexual behaviour is documented all over the animal kingdom. Gay sex of all stripes is as natural as sunshine and rainbows.