Over on the MGTOW subreddit, the regulars are daydreaming about sexbots. And they can’t seem to decide what excites them more: the prospect of endless on-demand sex with robot super-hotties — or ruining the lives of non-robotic women who won’t be able to compete with the aforementioned robot super-hotties.
It’s really kind of adorable.
Let’s let the MGTOW Nostradamus who calls himself EnterPseudonym explain how it’s all going to go down when the sexbot revolution arrives at last.
Men will be ecstatic to finally have something they can put their penis into that doesn’t talk:
[I]magine that sexbots are a reality. They’re not too expensive maybe $5000. With a decent job and no girl friend you could save up that money within a year. Now you only have to pay electricity to keep her running and maintenance every so often.
Just don’t get her wet! Those things are known to short out.
You don’t have to pay to take her out. You don’t have listen to her nag or bore you with dull conversations. You don’t have to deal with her emotional swings. There are no pregnancy scares.
You should probably clean her once in a while, though.
How can an average woman, who requires tens of thousands of dollars and thousands of hours in time spent to maintain the relationship, compete against a downloadable Kate Upton who requires a quarter of the maintenance time and money?
But, wait, won’t women be able to buy themselves sexbots as well?
Well, yeah, but women aren’t going to want them, because sexbots can’t provide what women really want: money.
Sexbots aren’t appealing to women because a sexbot is only good for sex and won’t actually be able to provide for a woman.
After the sexbot revolution, the world will be filled with desperate women.
Sexbots will essentially collapse the already ruined market for sex. Women will lose much of their social power, and a social switch might happen where males who haven’t chosen to use sexbots are extremely rare.
And so women will start throwing themselves at any man who will have them.
When 90% of males have dropped out of the market, the 80% of women will be competing for whatever man they can find.
Men who’d been cruelly rejected by real-life women in pre-sexbot days will suddenly find themselves in very high demand.
A former sexbot user, could get tired of his sexbot and want to settle down. He enters a market which is deprived of sperm, and now a man that was ugly, overweight, and typically undesirable before the social collapse, is now part of the top 10% of males. He has his choice with almost any woman. Any woman would choose this “undesirable” man because in fact he is desirable.
They never get tired of this fantasy, do they?
Somehow, though, I suspect that even if 90% of straight men were to take themselves off the market EnterPseudonym would still have trouble convincing women that he was much of a catch.
IMO, a toll is someone who triggers you just to get the trigger.
I’m not a troll. I have a different opinion from yours, Kupo.
Yet my opinion holds some similarities to yours.
Do you see the difference?
@Alan
I know there’s some branches of “militant vegans” who think the exploitation of animals is a feminist issue. These are the kind of people that usually use cartoons of pregnant women hooked up to milking machines to express their points on Facebook or whatever. You know, gross assholes.
Hmm.
Scildfreya – Annoying, but at least you got something out of it! I was just an enlisted clerk behind a counter thinking to myself “This degree you ‘earned’ is the only reason I’m required to salute you? What a joke!”
Mrs. Skyboomrooster – I did say *if* you’re just trolling. However, the smell of troll is strong here today. The flip from friendly and chatty to Hulk SMASH!! is pretty suspect, as well.
But I really wanna believe you’re a “rampaging slut” or however you put it (not gonna go look up that comment, too lazy) so, doubts and benefits and all.
Why do they always think that “trigger” = “made upset”?
Honey, “triggered” doesn’t mean “I’m mad that you’re not agreeing with me”. Being “triggered” isn’t about being angry with someone. It’s when someone talks about an emotionally sensitive topic casually, bringing back painful thoughts or feelings.
Given that you say you’re both a feminist and that you’ve had traumatic experiences in the past, you should be at least passing familiar with the concept. The only people who use “triggered” as a derogatory stand-in for “made upset” are the PUAs and MRA’s you claim to hunt.
How deep has that poison gotten into you?
@ handsome jack
Hey, that’s my future ex wife you’re talking about 🙂
But yeah, that’s one of the things I was thinking about. I know lots of people who think you can’t be feminist if you use dairy. And I know lots of feminists who aren’t too happy about some of the body type related arguments that vegans use. And a whole host of other areas of conflict.
That’s why I’m curious about Mrs Chad’s contention that the two are somehow inseparable. If there’s one (or two?) areas that don’t seem intersectional, it’s veganism and feminism.
So come on Mrs Chad, I’m genuinely interested in why you think there’s a link.
I believe it is Kat who cracks me up the most.
She [fuck, sorry for not validating pronouns–Kat, you get a free pass–what should I call you?] gave me “Wisenheimer crackers and smart-alec cheese” upon entering the commentariat.
THEN! I got to read about her “fucking” essential oil of “cunting” tangerine.
I actually have a lot of herbs and oils in my place. I believe in the power of “fucking” essential oils of “cunting” [X].
The “cunting” part of my essential oils is a fabulous addition. It was either Kat or Katz who added the “cunting” part to it.
I sincerely love that shit.
Stop being paranoid. I might disagree with you sometimes, but it doesn’t make me a troll. Plus, I saw some people were speculating about whether I have been a previous troll or not.
This is my first time here, and my first and last user name.
@ handsome jack
Much as I love my vegan friends to bits, I do find myself resorting to this clip quite a bit. Feel free to keep this in your armoury for next time there’s one of those posts.
Apparently, writing “F*ck you, you fascist pieces of sh*t, you can’t make me use gender-neutral pronouns…everyone hates feminists…patriarchy forever!” isn’t trolling, but merely just holding a different opinion.
@Alan
I actually wouldn’t mind being vegan myself one day (I’m lactose intolerant so kinda want to avoid dairy anyway), or at least vegetarian or pescetarian, so I’m not against veganism itself, it’s just I’m against the self-righteous asshole vegans, which I’d hope is a loud minority.
Also, Scott Pilgrim–I really should read the comics sometime.
@Scildfreja:
“Honey, “triggered” doesn’t mean “I’m mad that you’re not agreeing with me”. Being “triggered” isn’t about being angry with someone. It’s when someone talks about an emotionally sensitive topic casually, bringing back painful thoughts or feelings.”
Actually, people outside of your world DO understand that “trigger” means this. It is also a point of mockery.
Why do you think the world will never talk about an emotionally sensitive topic to you? Are you special?
Quite frankly, I am speaking with you guys because I have some similarities with you. However, some of the things you do/say trigger very hardcore oppositions in me.
When I I say “you,” I mean SJWs. I am seeing this commentariat as SJWs.
God, the tediosity is putting me to sleepzzzzzzzzzzzz
Mrs. Chadly, you’ve been busted.
Off is the general direction in which I wish you would fuck.
Your shit is not new, your shit is boring, and your shit convinces no one.
Choude, the jig is up. Nobody’s buying it. Have a more entertaining meltdown or get banned.
Hold up.
You’re only 43 and you call yourself a second-wave feminist? Do you know when second-wave feminism ended? You were feministing at age ~10-ish? You’re actually claiming that?
Christ, I’m 43 and I would not call myself either a second-wave or third-wave feminist. I kind of fall into the doughnut hole between those two movements. It’s super-surprising to me that someone who is of identical age to me would call themselves a second-wave feminist.
It wouldn’t surprise me at all if some MGTOW playing a character did that, though. All the “THE ENTIRE WORLD IS ARRAYED AGAINST YOU, FEMINISTS!” rants kind of gave you away there.
ETA: literally just realized that the topic of this post is MGTOWs. I was guessing MGTOW based on pattern of rant, but boy howdy does it make sense that a MGTOW looking for MGTOW posts would land on this one to troll.
Maybe a 329 year old “engineer?
@ handsome jack
“Tone” (for want of a better word) can be a real issue in veganism and animal rights generally. It’s something I get into arguments about with a particular person in my life quite a bit. The real expert on this though is Mish; she’s got some great insights into all this; infinitely better than my waffling.
As a recent convert to the veggie* lifestyle myself I’d say give it a go, or maybe just cut down a bit. Have to say, I do feel a lot better for it (not that I admit that to certain people 😉 )
(* we agreed certain exceptions)
You know, the world may be cruel, but you don’t have to be. That’s my motto. (Well, not really but whatev.) But yours seems to be a fuckhead because why should I be considerate of other people? They aren’t me. My opinion, thoughts, wants and entertainment are much more important than other peoples so fuck them, but fuck anyone who’d even fucking think of treating me that way.
The world isn’t going to fuck you over for being sympathetic every once in awhile, ya douchebag.
I’d say.
However, currently I live in a food desert where shit can get really expensive. Most of the time, it’s a choice between getting eight chicken breasts for $6 or three bunches of broccoli for $6. What’s going to last longer and be more filling?
I have been cutting down my meat intake and it does make me feel better, too, along with soda and sugary stuff, but I’d hope one day I’d live in a place that I don’t have to have most of my veggies from cans year round.
Trigger warning
Now, stick with me here
=
A warning
Of an upcoming trigger.
That means (pay close attention) that the person issuing the trigger warning has every intention of discussing an emotionally sensitive topic. If I said “trigger warning: couches,” and then didn’t say anything about couches, that would be useless. In fact, it would violate one of Grice’s Maxims. You’re a linguist; could you tell me which one?
@ Policy of Madness:
About the age I became a feminist. Yes. I already said I became a feminist around 3rd grade. That is about 8 years old actually.
Impossible??
3rd grade was where I was noticing it.
I have issues with some of the body negativity used by vegans and some of the tone. But the only ones I’ve personally met aren’t judgmental at all so I assume the assholes are the minority. I would like to be vegetarian but I have my health to look after. I can’t eat a lot of nuts, legumes, grains, and vegetables because of health issues, and that really limits where I can get important nutrients and proteins. It’s not an easy thing to change your diet and it’s even harder when meat substitutes all contain ingredients that your body can’t handle.
Am I the only one who’s not a fan of Scott Pilgrim?
@ handsome jack
Yeah that’s a real issue. How can something that’s literally just been pulled out of the dirt three miles away be dearer than this pre made lasagne from half way round the world?
Tell you what though, coincidentally enough I know another Jack of fluid identity and they’re good on cheap recipes. Google “Jack Monroe” and see what you can find.
You don’t say?
We hadn’t been talking about triggers and/or trigger warnings at all until you decided to use it as an insult, which is a pretty good tell-tale sign of an MRA-or-adjacent. Now you’re using that as evidence that we’re SJWs, which is also a pretty good sign that you’re an MRA-or-adjacent. “SJW” is a slur word for “progressive” or “feminist”, and little else.
Where did this come from? Why would you think I, or anyone here, would want the world to be painted over in trigger warnings for everything? Given that this site is explicitly labeled as “not a safe space,” you’re being ridicu-
– oh, it’s because you’ve decided that we’re all “SJWs”, and are now applying every “SJW” stereotype you know to us, sight unseen, right? Right.
You’re as bad as the PUAs you claim to pursue.
@Mrs. Chad Skyboomrooster
You are not in a mental category that explicitly rules you an actual deciever. I have many boxes for people and I am always making new ones or modifying modifying the old and moving people around. I meant what I said, they are warning signs and I am open to hearing about why they were reasonable. I can choose to shift to a disposition of you wish to discuss.
Some new questions.
Why are the oppositional urges there? I’m intimately familiar with oppositional tendencies having fought down clinically pathological versions. I know what a desired normal looks like. We tend to resist change as a species, changing routines of thought and behavior very often feel negative (even if we want to change). The more aggressive of us will often reflexively resist by nature, and that is neutral in the abstract. And this is a situation where no one is making you change beyond words and feelings.
We can’t make you use words the way we want, but you feel like we are. Why? None of us gets a world without criticism. We are and will try to convince you and others to do otherwise, but no one will do anything that warrented references to violence.
It’s understandable that you feel the difference between us in how we use language. We naturally have a sense of “symbolic consistency”. But that sense seems to be very intense if you feel that we want to force you into things, or feel that our use of language on each other dehumanizes you. Why that?
What is it you fear? It is not weakness to admit fears. I am motivated in some things by fear, such as fear that you would think there was something wrong with aggressively responding to manipulation in a way that worked for you and those who are less capable. What do you fear will happen if we figured out how many gender types there were and created pronouns and uses that worked for everyone? You would still get your pronouns.
Criticism here is no big problem. I got critisized for sex/gender issues in the last week and I’m carefully considering it before I reply. For days actually because I want make sure. Why does it have the effect that it does on you?
You know the question of whether or not the troll is a troll has been answered when Scild breaks out the Fluttershy GIFs.
Also many people including me have talked with Scildfreja about emotionally sensitive topics. That one is just plain BS.