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Dramatic Reading Friday: A brave Reddit warrior takes on the "Sarkeesian feminists."

Marlene Dietrich is not impressed with your bullshit
Marlene Dietrich is not impressed

Over in the Men’s Right’s subreddit, one new Social Injustice Warrior is weary, worn down by fighting the Bad Fight against the “Sarkeesian feminists” on Twitter. And what better way to convey one’s weariness than with a melodramatic monologue?

So he posted this:

Can we win? (self.MensRights)  submitted 1 day ago * by Maring_  First off, I've always been anti-feminist, but it is important to note that I've only been fighting social justice warriors for a couple of months. Before this I have only attacked feminism when it had confronted me head-on, never putting myself in that orgy of racist, sexist propaganda from which they direct their hordes of mindless drones. This is not a rant. It's a desperate cry for help from someone who just doesn't see the point of continuing to resist.  I posted over in the LGBT subreddit earlier today. I asked if they considered the fathers' rights movement something of interest, having an overlap in interests on issues concerning gay parents. My logic was that it would discredit the myth that children need a female parent if fathers were treated equally in custody battles. This seems to be something which we both want. I was told that, although they didn't necessarily disagree with me, that the fathers' rights movement is commonly associated with MRA activities and the men's rights movement has serious problems in regard to homophobes and transphobes in their ranks.  I had conversations with numerous Sarkeesian feminists on Twitter today. Their obsession with gender-baiting, their acceptance of bullying (when it's directed at their enemies, ofc), their ability to twist all issues into "us vs white, cis, heterosexual men" no matter which culture they're actually talking about and their general unwillingness to engage in open, civil and rational debate ALL LEAVE ME COMPLETELY TERRIFIED.  It has been a particularly sad day today and I've sunken into an emotional state of complete submission. I can't take it any more. I've felt a duty to reply to all the bullshit they've been spewing, but what's the fucking point? They're more organised, they are bigger in numbers, they get a shitload of media attention, there's a general fear of feminist backlash ingrained in those who are stuck in the middle of the shitstorm and what have we achieved? We have no support outside of men's rights activists, whereas everyone feminism seems to be the only acceptable ideology in popular culture and is the default alignment people associate themselves with.  Why do we fight?  I am tired.

In the AgainstMensRights subreddit, one of the regulars felt that Maring_’s  existential lament was good enough to deserve a dramatic reading. Two AMRistas responded to the challenge. Here’s one of their readings, complete with swelling music at the end:

Stirring indeed!

I went back over Maring_’s Reddit history to see what kind of heroic work he has been doing to fight the Sarkeesian feminists of the world. I would report on some of that, but I found his insights into sexuality to be far more interesting.

For example, he shared these thoughts about his sexual prowess with the regulars in r/celebs:

Maring_ -15 points 3 days ago   I wish. I bring quite the ruckus to the ladies. I leave their hole feeling raw after minutes of intensive use.

And these thoughts about his multicultural sexual preferences:

Maring_ -44 points 2 days ago   Whatever. Obviously I'd fuck either of them (hole is a hole). If I had a choice, Jennifer Lopez will always win out over them all. I fucking love Latina pussy.

As well as these observations about the redoubtable Marlene Dietrich:

Maring_ 2 points 4 days ago   what a colossal babe. I'd bring the ruckus to that bitch's pussy.      permalink     save     report     give gold     reply  [–]rpilek [S] 2 points 4 days ago   I agree, I also find her very sexy.      permalink     save     parent     report     give gold     reply  [–]Maring_ 2 points 4 days ago   I'd run that bitch's ass into the ground

Meanwhile, in a thread in r/movies on the death of Richard Attenborough, he left these kind words:

Maring_ -1 points 4 days ago   I heard Richard slept with his housecleaner on a daily basis. Sly fuck. I hope I'll be getting my dick wet behind my wife's back at his age. I'll probably only get away with fucking a prostitute, though, which means I'll have to wear a condom :(  I'd say R.I.P. but if he's resting, that would imply an afterlife and let's face it: this fucker ain't getting into heaven.

Rest up, weary Redditor! It can be difficult to bring so much ruckus to the world.

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Alais
7 years ago

Not mention wanting browny points for not calling anyone a bitch or a c*nt.

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
7 years ago

I’m getting Pythonesque images of one of them moving the goalposts so far he falls off a cliff with them.

… which I would pay to watch.

Alais
7 years ago

Kitteh, will people falling off of buildings suffice?

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
7 years ago

Alais, yes, perfectly! XD

Alais
7 years ago

Sorry! I thought that that would just link.

weirwoodtreehugger
7 years ago

How about jumping out a window?

kittehserf - MOD
kittehserf - MOD
7 years ago

Videos always linked on WordPress, and pictures mostly do now, too, since they rejigged it. 🙂

Kootiepatra
Kootiepatra
7 years ago

@blahlistic

I have yet to debate an MRA and have it stay open, civil or rational on their end.
How about y’all?

I once debated one who was “civil” — ish — and only to me. He was very transparently pulling a divide-and-conquer tactic with myself and another commenter. The other commenter was blunt, but certainly not abusive, and the MRA was heaping loooooads of condescension and aggressive language on them.

I thought I was also being pretty blunt, but apparently the MRA detected some difference in tone. I think he might have interpreted an incredulous rhetorical question as sincere interest. Whatever the case, he regarded what I said — which was 95%, “Um, yeah, I agree with Commenter 1, for XYZ reasons” — to be somehow so much more acceptable, so much nicer, and see, Commenter 1, this is how civil discourse SHOULD go.

I had a few more go-rounds with the MRA, essentially saying, “Dude, you are wrong, and here’s why,” every time. He continued to thank me for a polite discussion, but also continued to state the same points over and over, without so much as acknowledging the criticisms either Commenter 1 or I had raised. (But of course, Commenter 1 didn’t count, because they were too “childish” and “hostile”.)

Commenter 1 and I had each other’s backs the whole time, but Sir MRA kept talking to us as if Commenter 1 was a troll and I was some sort of mediator of proper tone — which confused me greatly and actually made me feel kinda gross. Look dude, I don’t want to have to call you names to get the point across that I THINK YOU ARE THE WRONGEST OF WRONG, but let’s not test my limits on that, m’kay?

So “civil”, kinda, but “open or rational”, not so much.

strivingally
7 years ago

Ugh, I hate wedgers and splitters, especially when they’re blatant about it. Never more so than when they start the whole condescending “you’re not like [x], you can think for yourself, right?” garbage. As if agreeing with someone else’s views is somehow equivalent to brainwashing.

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