Reading comprehension: a bit of a problem for the angry dude crowd. So in my post earlier today I wrote about a Redditdude who got so angry reading a relatively innocuous Forbes column by a WOMAN ON TEH INTERNET that he called her a “cunt” and threatened to murder people and got more than a thousand net upvotes. All based on a complete misreading of her article, of which he obviously only skimmed the first paragraph.
Well, now the Men’s Rights subreddit has gotten hold of the Forbes column, and they too are pig-biting mad – not so much at the column itself, which it’s clear not many of them have actually read, but at a straw column they’ve written in their heads which is nothing but EEEVIL MISANDRY.
To reiterate: Kashmir Hill’s column in Forbes notes that some people have come to regard people without Facebook accounts as somehow suspect in our hyper-connected world. Hill finds this a bit silly, and writes:
The idea that a Facebook resister is a potential mass murderer, flaky employee, and/or person who struggles with fidelity is obviously flawed. There are people who choose not to be Facebookers for myriad non-psychopathic reasons: because they find it too addictive, or because they hold their privacy dear, or because they don’t actually want to know what their old high school buddies are up to. My own boyfriend isn’t on Facebook and I don’t hold it against him (too much).
Note to the painfully literal: that parenthetical “too much” in the last sentence is what’s called a “joke.”
Naturally, Reddit’s Men’s Rights squad, not having read much beyond the sarcastic title of Hill’s piece (“Beware, Tech Abandoners. People Without Facebook Accounts Are ‘Suspicious.’”) has concluded that she’s an evil misandrist who’s demonizing men without Facebook as creepy psychopaths. Yes, in addition to getting the argument of her piece completely backwards, they’ve also decided that it’s all about men.
MauraLoona, who submitted the link under the misleading title “Men without Facebook: You’re suspicious and potential stalkers, creeps, and psychopaths” explains in a comment:
While the article uses gender neutral pronouns in some places, the message is obvious: This suspicion is directed at men.
I suspect this might be a case of xenophobia: “I am a woman and love technology, so if you’re a man and don’t share that love for technology, you’re suspicious.”
JohnTheOther, a virtuoso in the fine art of getting things wrong, offers this take:
Forbes, apparently is now in the business of creating boogiemen. No evidence of anything equates to evidence of sinister intent. What utter fear-mongering drivel.
And our old friend Liverotto concludes that when Hill says she doesn’t hold her boyfriend’s lack of a Facebook account against him (much), she’s just lying, like women do:
Yes, of course, she doesn’t hold it against him, that’s why she wrote a full article about people without Facebook being suspicious.
Women are just liars, that’s it, that’s all it is, liars and dissimulators, if you trust what a woman says you are naive.
MRAs really do live in imaginary backwards land, don’t they?


CC, go read some past blog posts here before you comment any more. Go read at least 100 of these posts. Go.
@ConservativeCrusader:
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Have you read the post you’re commenting on? It’s taking outtakes from r/MensRights. Try that last quote for a start, I’ll go hunt for some more.
Those are only Mangina cherry-picking extremists/being bigoted towards the MRA movement. There is no evidence that the majority of MRAs believe in those posts.
i really think you should stop not knowing what strawmanning means, and also stop think stupid shit about the babyman pretend problems movement
@ ConservativeCrusader
I quite agree if only David would stop posting what MRA’s write and EVIL commentators reflecting on these ” legitimate troubles that aile men”, the world would be a better place.
Or not.
http://manboobz.com/2012/08/08/mens-rights-redditors-discover-a-new-woman-to-hate-and-its-one-of-the-ones-i-wrote-about-in-my-last-post/
That’s right. Dismiss all criticism because the criticism comes from someone who disagrees with you. I see you take this conversation very seriously.
cat update:
i went to get a drink of water and came back to find one of the other cats besides the devil cat had broken into my room. he is now rolling around on my bed trying to look adorable, which is hard because he is massive. i dont mean fat, he’s sleek and perfectly proportioned, just way way bigger than a normal cat.
luckily he is also super chill, which is why im letting him hang for a lil bit.
That’s sounds like a typical canned response from the MRM. Maybe try to use your own words?
And leave out mangina. It really destroys what little credibility you have.
And there is no evidence that the majority of MRAs like key lime pie. What’s your point?
@Sharculese
I am concerned about this “devil cat.” Couldn’t you get rid of her, or at least perform an exorcism?
Where’s the evidence that a majority of MRAs are misogynists? If it is true, then you should be able to blow me out of the water!
@ConservativeCrusader:
Since when was the argument that the majority of MRAs are misogynists? You said this:
That’s called moving the goal-posts, dude. Try again.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/
happy reading
oh god this guys block is fucking hilarious
you know obama is still the president, right dummy?
Sadly we don’t have data on the majority of MRAs, because the majority of MRAs probably don’t post. Judging by the data available (on this blog and others), there’s a good chance the majority of MRAs are in fact misogynists.
*blog
If one instance of misogyny is enough to discredit an entire movement, then http://evebitfirst.wordpress.com/2011/05/18/a-man-is-a-rape-supporter-if/
There, all feminists must be misandrists, then!
Nice blog ConservativeCrusader. Interesting timing for the date on the first post. Reads like some crappy aspiring writer. Did you have the same teacher as our friend Mr. Steele per chance?
Also, Obama’s major civil liberties crimes is basically continuing Bush years policies, so… yay I guess?
seriously, theres no number of fucked up quotes that we could post that wouldnt still have you crying about ‘cherrypicking’ and anyway the end result is that youre gonna declare victory, storm off in huff and head back the reddit to pen a semi-literate screed hoping for high fives from a bunch of dudes who are as bad at knowing things as you are, so there’s really nothing to do here except make fun of you
@ConservativeCrusader:
From moving the goal posts to ignoring a large quantity of evidence by pretending that a single example is the entirety of the body of evidence. Nice.
Nobody’s gonna do your research for you, buddy. The misogyny of the Men’s Right’s Movement is far too vast to list in a single comment. Read the blog, read the criticisms, you’ll find the evidence presented to you.
(As for evebitfirst, in feminism we actually acknowledge the extremists of our movmeent and repudiate them. Show us the non-extreme MRAs who actually have any importance to the movement.)
Wait, they don’t like KEY LIME PIE? What kind of monsters are they??????
Blockquote fail. The AC is blowing cold air on my fingers and I can’t type.