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Men’s Rights Redditors discover a new woman to hate (and it’s one of the ones I wrote about in my last post)

Reading comprehension: a bit of a problem for the angry dude crowd. So in my post earlier today I wrote about a Redditdude who got so angry reading a relatively innocuous Forbes column by a WOMAN ON TEH INTERNET that he called her a “cunt” and threatened to murder people and got more than a thousand net upvotes. All based on a complete misreading of her article, of which he obviously only skimmed the first paragraph.

Well, now the Men’s Rights subreddit has gotten hold of the Forbes column, and they too are pig-biting mad – not so much at the column itself, which it’s clear not many of them have actually read, but at a straw column they’ve written in their heads which is nothing but EEEVIL MISANDRY.

To reiterate: Kashmir Hill’s column in Forbes notes that some people have come to regard people without Facebook accounts as somehow suspect in our hyper-connected world. Hill finds this a bit silly, and writes:

The idea that a Facebook resister is a potential mass murderer, flaky employee, and/or person who struggles with fidelity is obviously flawed. There are people who choose not to be Facebookers for myriad non-psychopathic reasons: because they find it too addictive, or because they hold their privacy dear, or because they don’t actually want to know what their old high school buddies are up to. My own boyfriend isn’t on Facebook and I don’t hold it against him (too much).

Note to the painfully literal: that parenthetical “too much” in the last sentence is what’s called a “joke.”

Naturally, Reddit’s Men’s Rights squad, not having read much beyond the sarcastic title of Hill’s piece (“Beware, Tech Abandoners. People Without Facebook Accounts Are ‘Suspicious.’”) has concluded that she’s an evil misandrist who’s demonizing men without Facebook as creepy psychopaths. Yes, in addition to getting the argument of her piece completely backwards, they’ve also decided that it’s all about men.

MauraLoona, who submitted the link under the misleading title “Men without Facebook: You’re suspicious and potential stalkers, creeps, and psychopaths” explains in a comment:

While the article uses gender neutral pronouns in some places, the message is obvious: This suspicion is directed at men.

I suspect this might be a case of xenophobia: “I am a woman and love technology, so if you’re a man and don’t share that love for technology, you’re suspicious.”

JohnTheOther, a virtuoso in the fine art of getting things wrong, offers this take:

Forbes, apparently is now in the business of creating boogiemen. No evidence of anything equates to evidence of sinister intent. What utter fear-mongering drivel.

And our old friend Liverotto concludes that when Hill says she doesn’t hold her boyfriend’s lack of a Facebook account against him (much), she’s just lying, like women do:

Yes, of course, she doesn’t hold it against him, that’s why she wrote a full article about people without Facebook being suspicious.

Women are just liars, that’s it, that’s all it is, liars and dissimulators, if you trust what a woman says you are naive.

MRAs really do live in imaginary backwards land, don’t they?

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fembot
13 years ago

And yes, farting should be shamed, because it’s rude and disgusting. Do it in private. If one slips out, apologize. You don’t take a shit in public, do you?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@cloudiah:

I did not know that. What the hell did CC mean when he said that he thinks “Zyklon B” was right, then? Was he literally just saying “I’m not defending hitler, but I do agree with genocide?” Cause that actually doesn’t surprise me.

princessbonbon
13 years ago

Do people not know that Zyklon B was the poison (cyanide) used in the concentration camps? I guess I am older than most of you; I wish this was a thing I could un-learn.

No, I did not know what that was. 🙁

fembot
13 years ago

I’d be butthurt ALL DAY!

Aren’t you already?

indifferentsky
13 years ago

PTSD = butthurt.

You hear that soldiers?
It’s not longer a physiological reaction!

More evidence men are not the oppressed class.
Also people that really do have to watch what they read are usually more triggered by realistic things, not a douche bag libertarian.

fembot
13 years ago

CC should win a trophy for shittiest analogies on the internets.

princessbonbon
13 years ago

Did someone email the Dark Lord yet?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@princessbonbon:

You made sure to do all the really hard classes last year so this year is smooth sailing right?

ummm….

Now I want to go out to your neck of the woods to taste the delectable delights you have been making.

Beer bread! And whole wheat bread! And whole wheat pizza! And stir fry! Wierdly, only the last one is made with any regularity. I need to start branching out more…

fembot
13 years ago

Can someone make a trophy for CC? It should be made of dried out dog turds and regurgitated cat hairballs.

princessbonbon
13 years ago

Beer bread! And whole wheat bread! And whole wheat pizza! And stir fry! Wierdly, only the last one is made with any regularity. I need to start branching out more…

That doorbell that is ringing is me. “Hi! so you said you have pizza…”

captainbathrobe
captainbathrobe
13 years ago

The whole “I don’t agree with Hitler killing the Jews, only that Zyklon B is harmful” shtick is especially idiotic because any sane person knows Zyklon B is harmful; the fact that Hitler may have also believed same does not make it any less true. What a wanker.

cloudiah
13 years ago

I grew up reading about the Holocaust for school, which is probably why I recognized Zyklon B. It’s kind of disturbing that isn’t taught anymore. Maybe not to the level of knowing the name of the poison that was used against people — on the other hand, that level of detail clearly stayed with me, so maybe it’s important to include.

Do people still at least learn about Anne Frank?

princessbonbon
13 years ago

I see that ConservativeCrusader is trying to show me (and everyone else) how unhappy we have made him.

Awww, did your widdle fee fees get hurt by your being a utter ass?

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

Meh, just one more obnoxious little turd trying to feel like a badass by spewing bile on the internet. I’m sure CC will be riding this high for a least a week.

Shadow
13 years ago

I like how his method of convincing us that MRAs aren’t misogynists is to apparently attempt to top the ones that are quoted 😎

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@CC:

Ah libertarianism. You have every right to act like a turd online, fuck trying to avoid excluding people from your space through rude or obnoxious behavior. If you want the freedom to make all the shitty misogynistic jokes you want, why not try reddit? I hear r/MensRights is a great proponent of Frees Peaches.

cloudiah
13 years ago

@princess I did email the dark lord, but I suspect he is in hibernation (sleeping).

princessbonbon
13 years ago

Cloudiah,

I believe they do. I read up a lot on the holocaust (I had a friend in high school whose parents and aunt were the only survivors of the death camps and I wanted to understand what they went through) but I guess I forgot it or never noticed.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

@cloudiah:

Yeah, Anne Frank is still taught (or at least was when I was taking history courses). They didn’t go into details about how the nazis killed people though (or I didn’t remember those), so maybe that’s a difference. Probably depends a lot on where you go to school too.

fembot
13 years ago

@cloudiah

He must feast on fresh kitteh videos before facing the new dawn.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
13 years ago

Looks like CC’s gone. Thanks David. 🙂

princessbonbon
13 years ago

Well he does probably need it after all the kitty racing he is enjoying.

captainbathrobe
captainbathrobe
13 years ago

CC is the obnoxious little shit who says “I know your are but what am I?” until you want to punch him. People like him grow up to be “C” students who complain bitterly that the only reason they didn’t get an “A” is that the professor is biased against conservatives.

cloudiah
13 years ago

He must feast on fresh kitteh videos before facing the new dawn.

I know I am kind of tired of providing these for our dark lord. Is there a commercial service that will do this? 🙂

princessbonbon
13 years ago

If anyone wants to have a good laugh before they go on off to bed, this person wrote an epic review of Fifty Shades of Grey
http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/340987215