Just a quick update on Eivind Berge: According to this news account, the Norwegian Men’s Rights blogger is considered enough of a threat to police officers that his two-week detention has been extended by four more weeks. According to the prosecutor, the “risk of recurrence of new criminal offenses” makes releasing him dangerous.
Getting back on topic for a moment, according to a now-deleted but Google-cached blog post made by Berge’s girlfriend a few days ago, the four week extension to Berge’s time in detention is to allow time for psychiatric evaluation.
Given that Berge is on the record as hating psychiatrists almost as much as he does cops and feminists, you can probably guess how well that’s gone down. But it will be interesting to see the outcome.
I’ve been lurking a while, and though it probably isn’t proper etiquette, I’m using my first post to tell NWO that he is full of shit. NWO, you stated that a small ball of cells is as alive as a larger one et cetera, ergo abortion is murder. This is crap, what’s more, you know it’s crap. If you were in a burning building, and you had a choice of grabbing one small child, or one of 50 fertilized eggs ready for implantation, which would you grab? Would it even be a question? You know damn well you would get the child, because the child is sentient and capable of suffering. The in vitro embryos are no more capable of suffering than an unfertilised egg. Now, I am aware, that as the embryo develops, it becomes more of a gray area. Guess what? Women, even feminists are aware of this as well. This is why the vast majority of elective abortions occur in the first trimester. Also, take note that Protestants and Catholics are more likely to seek abortion than secular women. Look up the stats dude.
Please excuse my lack of formatting and my typos. I am posting from a cell phone which makes editing extremely difficult (there also seems to be no way to create paragraphs) :-/ I’ll use a computer next time.
Now he is released, though. Court of appeals (Gulating Lagmannsrett) overturned the city court’s approval six days ago of the district attorney’s request to hold him in custody for four more weeks. DAs did not like this, and asked that he be held in custody until the Supreme Court of Norway could weigh in on the issue. Berge’s lawyer asked that he be released immediately. Gulating reviewed the appeals from both sides, found that Berge has not broken the law at all, and that the city court made a mistake in judgement when granting the police’s requests. Gulating was so clear on this, that they refused to hear the police’s (DA’s) request for continued incarceration, and ordered that he be set free – and so he was. Norway’s TV2 was there at the prison to record it, and it was shown in the main news report this evening in Norway (Thursday July 26, 2012). The Supreme Court will still review the pleas from both sides, but in the meantime, and until such a review has been performed, Eivind Berge is once again a free man. He’ll have troubles accessing his blog, though, and twitter and FB-accounts, as police still has all his computer equipment in their care. Eivind will now fight to get those back, plus for getting compensation for unlawful incarceration.
Seeing that from today’s comments to the media, police/DAs are no less gung-ho to bring Eivind to trial, and taking into consideration that media commentators and law scholars are slowly coming back from their summer holidays, these legal questions are now likely to spark quite a lot of debate in Norway. It’s already begun, to some extent.
Further update: Eivind has been released. He claims the books on explosives were given to him by the army when he was conscripted. Also, the police stole his cactuses.
Wrong url, here it is .
Also, the police stole his cactuses.
The police stole his phallic plants? Truly this must be an example of state misandry! 😛
(Though not all cacti are phallic obviously, they are quite varied and awesome).
Those poor plants. I fear they won’t be cared for well. :<
You can do a lot of damage to a policeman with a well-aimed cactus. They were right to be careful.
I doubt he has any jumpping cholla, or the other, large, members of the family.
I miss cactus.
A few corrections of mistakes I read on the first page of this long commentary thread:
Eivind had four bullets lying around in his childhood room. He found them laying around somewhere when he was a kid, i.e. probably 20 years ago or more, and brought them back to his childhood (parents’) home. He had forgotten all about them. Less than one year ago, Eivind was forced to move home to his family, as blogging caused him to lose his job. The reason the police found these old things in his “home”, is because he was back in his boy’s room. Anyone here who has one still, in the home of their parents, will probably understand that there may be a lot of stuff there that you don’t care about, but haven’t gotten around to throwing in the garbage or selling off. Eivind worked with detonations in the military during his conscription service, and says the books, also found in his boy’s room, were from that period, 13-14 years ago. Clearly the police are taking no chances, here – some might want to call them somewhat paranoid. (See Eivind’s new, fresh blog post about the Harlem incident.)
Anders Behring Breivik never, ever wrote about killing people online. He made hundreds or thousands of comments on various sites, but never let it slip that he was planning anything big, and always kept within what was safe to say. So, the person who wrote early up above in this thread that ABB wrote online messages about killing people, is also mistaken.
Furthermore, Eivind never gave a time and date for when he was going to kill a police officer. That is also a mistaken interpretation of news articles relating to Eivind’s arrest. What he wrote was that in the past, he had been so filled with anger, and so committed to his cause, that he came very close to taking action on a Saturday night, on the town square, trying to stab a police officer in the throat as said officer was dealing with drunk Norwegians in a crowd out in the open. He then went on to state that that was all in the past, and that he had no intentions of anything like that anymore, and that he did not want to say goodbye to his friends. Three days later police came to apprehend him while he was jogging, based on those very statements.
Judge for yourselves.