Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge, known for his violent rhetoric and rape apologia, has been arrested for death threats against police.
Not too surprising, given that he once announced on his blog that “[k]illing at least one cop is on my bucket list.”
Here are some Google-translated details from a news account here:
The right-wing extremist and anti-feminist blogger Eivind Berge has been arrested for having encouraged and glorified the killing of policemen. The police have found both ammunition and textbooks in use of explosives at Berge.
The police regard the threats as an invitation to others to kill police officers, but also feared that he would commit the acts themselves shortly.
He was evidently arrested on Wednesday. According to this story — at least as far as I can tell from the obviously crude Google translation — he made a specific threat to kill a police officer this Saturday:
Berge also writes about how he was planning to attack a policeman with a knife on a Saturday evening:
“Then I used the trial to come forward as a good example for men, and I considered it to be worth 21 years in prison for premeditated murder.”
According to this account, Berge is being held for two weeks. He claims innocence.
Berge, as readers of this blog may well already know, is a fan of right-wing terrorist and mass murderer Anders Brevik. On his blog, he’s also argued (among other things) that “Rape is Equality.”
He’s glorified the murder of police on his blog numerous times.
Some examples, taken from the second news account:
“… attack on the police is something 100% in harmony with everything I stand for.”
“I maintain that police murder is both ethically and tactically correct.”
Some other examples, direct from his blog (each paragraph is from a separate post; click on the quote for the source):
I viscerally despise cops and wish them the worst. Killing at least one cop is on my bucket list.
If ever a victim of psychiatry, here is what I would do. I would first attempt to kill the cops or whoever tried to apprehend me. Failing that, I would feign docility in order to get out as soon as possible and then kill a representative of the industry as revenge. … killing cops is also very much a men’s issue. Every pig killed is also a blow against feminism, so men should be doubly elated whenever an officer goes down in the line of encroaching on our cognitive liberty.
This was his reaction to a news story about a police officer being killed:
Good news for men is rare in this hateful feminist utopia that is Norway, but today is a joyous day! Today I feel schadenfreude in my heart along with all the hate that feminism and resultant mate deprivation have instilled in me. One blue thug less on the streets.
From another post on the same subject:
The swine Olav Kildal died while trying to enforce our lack of cognitive liberty. This was a defensive, much deserved killing that cheered me up.
Here he threatens a female prosecutor:
To feminist prosecutor Anne Cathrine Aga I have the following message: The Men’s Movement is watching you, bitch, and we are seething with hatred against you personally and the police state you represent. Actions have consequences. Trials are still (mostly) public and they sink into our collective minds, where they form the basis of future activism. Hate breeds hate — that is a fact of life too smugly ignored by feminists. …
2011 is the year Norwegian men as a group emerged out of the blogosphere and into the battlefield. This in turn has led to a breakthrough for MRAs such as my good self in the public discourse, probably for the simple reason that the powers that be now realize ignoring us has deadly consequences. Men are angry now, and we have proven that we are deathly serious about resisting feminism. So the feminist prosecutors referred to above ought to wipe that smug look off their faces before it is too late. Clearly seventy-seven body bags wasn’t enough, but I am fairly confident that you will be sorry one day.
Aside from the explicit threats of violence, the violent and threatening rhetoric here is not unlike much of the rhetoric we see regularly on A Voice for Men and other MRA sites. AVFM founder Paul Elam, for example, told one feminist that:
I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea of fucking your shit up gives me an erection. … We are coming for you.
The blogger Emma the Emo, Berge’s girlfriend, has posted comments here in the past defending him. The news account quotes someone identified as Nataliya Kochergova, described as his girlfriend; I assume this is “Emma,” because what she told the media is similar to what she posted here. She of course denies that he planned any real violence. According to the article, she said:
There are not really threats. He has never had plans to kill someone, he has said several times in his blog. When for example, he says that “the police killings are an effective way to prevent stupid laws,” it’s a factual description and not a threat. Even those who love the police agree with it.
Berge, for his part, has stated publicly that if he had not met Emma, he probably would have killed by now:
At the time I wrote my last blog post, I believed I would probably become Norway’s first modern violent activist in peacetime. Celibacy enforced by a feminist regime had driven me to the point where I saw no other option. I would target the pigs who enforce feminist law, knowing I could realistically at least kill one of them before I would be captured or killed myself. Thus revenge would be assured and if I lived, my reputation as a violent criminal would make me attractive to some women. But then in the nick of time this blog attracted a lovely girl commenting as “Emma.”
This is why I take violent rhetoric from MRAs very seriously.
Meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic, MRAs glorify MRA “martyr” Thomas Ball, who killed himself on the steps of a New Hampshire courthouse last year in hopes that his death would inspire MRAs to literally burn down courthouses and police stations.
Ball’s manifesto is still up on A Voice for Men in its “activism” section, including these passages:
So boys, we need to start burning down police stations and courthouses. … This is too important to be using that touchy- feeling coaching that is so popular with business these days. You need to flatten them, like Wile E. Coyote. They need to be taught never to replace the rule of law. BURN-THEM-OUT!
Most of the police stations built in New England over the last 20 years are stone or brick. Fortunately, the roofs are still wood. The advantage of fire on the roof is that it is above the sprinklers
AVFM tastefully omitted Ball’s specific instructions on how to make Molotov cocktails, but left this in:
There will be some casualties in this war. Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.
For many more examples of violent threatening rhetoric from MRAs, I urge you to go through some of my posts here and here.
How could anyone accuse the MRM of laziness when its members regularly engage in so much hypothetical activism?
Apparently, the only real MRAs are the hypothetical ones.
Either that or there is only one True Scotsman, and it’s Mikey. I wonder how, say, Tom feels about being told that he’s not really an MRA?
Low Carbon Steele: We will see how the Movement reacts to Martin’s child rape apologia; this information is recent.
So far, they are yawning, or saying Manboobz made it up.
Who gives a fuck
hey may also work on fathers’ behalf in the family courts. They may work with at-risk and/or depressed youth (again, mostly men). They may work with men and body image.
They may. They may also condemn men like Tom Martin, but I’m not seeing a whole lot of “they do”.
How about you just tell us about your reaction. You’re a part of the movement right? You’re a real MRM activist, correct?
Hey, TheNatFantastic.Your grandmother sounds like a wonderful person, and a very strong and smart person. You sound like you’re very lucky to have known her. I’m sorry what I said hurt you.
Here’s why I said that. In American and European politics during the cold war, and to some extent even now, there was a tendency for regimes which were not themselves far right to cozy up to the far right as a preventative against Communism (eg, US support for the Pinocht regime). The rhetoric that went along with this would frequently claim that the far right was the lesser of two evils, or was even beneficial. A lot of the time, people who believed that this was the right course of action, when reminded of the horrible shit the Nazis and other Fascists did, would say “Well, what about the USSR’s crimes?” as though the choice were automatically either Fascism or Stalin, or as though the actions of the USSR justified, either partially or all together, Fascism.
That was what Eurosabra was doing, and I wanted to cut him off.
And I do believe that the crimes of the USSR, vile as they were, were not quite as bad as the crimes of Nazi Germany, a regime which, in just twelve years, almost wiped out two entire ethnic groups (more than two, if you count some little Arab/Jewish groups in the Middle East). But when I say “not as bad,” I’m not trying to justify Stalinist genocide. “Not as bad” in no way needs to mean “good.”
Again, I’m sorry.
You really don’t understand the purpose of an argument amongst strangers, particularly on the internet, do you?
Well, there’s the structures that harm men, for one. Good luck with that. A dude who derisively refers to ‘the humanities’ as if they’re unworthy of discussion is not going to do a good job in a discussion on what is, ultimately, under the purviews of ‘the humanities’. Shoot, do you have any idea how much you outright sacrifice as a discussion? As a topic to learn about for its own sake?
Now this is just a silly complaint; new ideas need to be preceded by new data, or at least a novel argument. As long you chumps are going to keep making the same stupid statements, we’re not going to need new counterarguments.
Because you’re pathetic enough to return to a place you flounced to, where you aren’t wanted, where you don’t even have the intestinal fortitude to try to change *anything*?
People don’t say Soviet.crimes, they say Judaeo-Bolshevik. Had the West fought harder to keep Poland and CZ in the West, among other things, that identification would not have happened. They get you coming and going, which happened to Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania– entire peoples blamed for all of the crimes of 2, sometimes 3 occupiers. (4 if PPA, Ukrainian nationalists included).
The ZOB (Zionist Military Resistance) in Warsaw were left in the hands of Stalin, then blamed for his crimes. Partisans of the AK had a parallel problem (Polish Home Army) blamed as Nazi collaborators by the NKVD. Czech was actually liberated by US Army, which then withdrew. None of that needed to happen and nothing about opposing or decrying it means I support fascism. Esoterica, but esoterica VoIP knows. And I love ZOB as an acronym.
FYI, Eurosabra’s thing with calling everyone here ableist is because I said he may want to disclose mental illness before he’s seriously involved with someone (and he took that to mean on the first date or something). He’s also magically ignoring that that advice came framed in terms of “I am mentally ill and it’ll spare you pain”…and apparently all of you agreed or something?
Steele/Varpole — “Not really interested in discussing this with you. You’ve clearly made your decision.” — Please go away then.
Pecunium — “Which is it, are you publicly yourself, or anonymised?” — I’m assuming he’s using ToR, or a proxy. (And thinks David doesn’t still have his IP, or something)
Also, which small Arab groups did the Nazis genocide? I know about the Holocaust in the Midle East/Caucasus/North Africa but did not realize it included non-Jewish Arabs.
I am in favor of the liberal nationalists of postwar Eastern Europe, who were crushed by both Hitler (1939-45) and Stalin (1939-1956). Stalin died in ’53 but Hungary suffered anyway.
I’m forgetting their name right now, but there was a small group of people who did not practice the Jewish religion, were classified as Aryans and spared, then later classified as Jews and killed. I don’t remember where I read it, and if you google “Nazi arab muslim jewish” you get trash, obviously.
why is Eurosabra talking about WW2?
Because he’s a fascist and now we’ve gotten on a sub-topic. It was in reference to my comment to TheNatFantastic.
Until you slimed out of the woodwork, I’d never heard anyone use that term.
Anyone outside Stormfront, anyway.
So you’re not just a creep but an out-and-out Fascist creep?
No no no, he’s anti-racist–in fact, he’s an Israeli. These have all been sarcastic references to things the other Fascists call him, poor dear. In fact, I first learned about his politics when he informed us that he was looking for a non-racist European far-right party. Can’t imagine why he couldn’t find one. Our hearts bleed.
Incidentally, my family is partly from Aizpute in Kurzeme,Latvia, although left for then-Palestine long before WW2.
The European hard Left calls for the replacement of Israel by Palestine. So why wouldn’t I look for support, given the Labor/Tory dislike of Israel in the UK and the impending sellout of Israel over the submarines by the CDU/CSU and the Greens?
Like I said to TheNatFantastic: the assumption that the only two political options in the world are “the hard left” and Fascism is not only false, it’s a bog-standard far-right rhetorical gambit.
VoIP,
That would be the Donme of Salonika, in Greece. Bulgarian Donme were not harmed, Mel Gordon of UC Berkeley has studied those cases in depth.
The Domne were expelled from Salonika in 1910 during the population exchange between Greece and Turkey
and Mel Gordon teaches dance
http://tdps.berkeley.edu/people/faculty/mel-gordon/
Judaeo Bolshevik? I’ve heard a lot of people talk smack about the USSR and Russia, but never once have I heard that before. I mean, I’m sure it’s been used before ES crawled out of the gutter, but I really doubt it is common.
‘sellout of Israel’? A state that makes a habit of invoking the Holocaust to justify throwing people into concentration camps? Not that I believe this characterization for a second, but if it’s true, bully for the EU left for no longer supporting a state that terrorizes a substantial minority of its citizens. Now if they’d just stop kowtowing to the USA…
So what you meant o say is “A few people don’t say soviet.” then, rather than implying it was common, at best.
Excuse me? With what? The USSR had already occupied those areas. It’d be another war to have even attempted to dislodge the USSR, and Stalin was not going to just surrender a potential buffer zone.
His lecture ” Mondojudeo: Hidden Corners of the Jewis Past” include Sabbateans, Frankists, and Donme. apparently there were Donme Holocaust victims
@Eurosabra:
So, you’re pro-Israel, yet you use the term “Judaeo-Bolshevik”?
Ah, here we go.
http://www.goldstar.com/events/los-angeles-ca/mondo-judeo