Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge, known for his violent rhetoric and rape apologia, has been arrested for death threats against police.
Not too surprising, given that he once announced on his blog that “[k]illing at least one cop is on my bucket list.”
Here are some Google-translated details from a news account here:
The right-wing extremist and anti-feminist blogger Eivind Berge has been arrested for having encouraged and glorified the killing of policemen. The police have found both ammunition and textbooks in use of explosives at Berge.
The police regard the threats as an invitation to others to kill police officers, but also feared that he would commit the acts themselves shortly.
He was evidently arrested on Wednesday. According to this story — at least as far as I can tell from the obviously crude Google translation — he made a specific threat to kill a police officer this Saturday:
Berge also writes about how he was planning to attack a policeman with a knife on a Saturday evening:
“Then I used the trial to come forward as a good example for men, and I considered it to be worth 21 years in prison for premeditated murder.”
According to this account, Berge is being held for two weeks. He claims innocence.
Berge, as readers of this blog may well already know, is a fan of right-wing terrorist and mass murderer Anders Brevik. On his blog, he’s also argued (among other things) that “Rape is Equality.”
He’s glorified the murder of police on his blog numerous times.
Some examples, taken from the second news account:
“… attack on the police is something 100% in harmony with everything I stand for.”
“I maintain that police murder is both ethically and tactically correct.”
Some other examples, direct from his blog (each paragraph is from a separate post; click on the quote for the source):
I viscerally despise cops and wish them the worst. Killing at least one cop is on my bucket list.
If ever a victim of psychiatry, here is what I would do. I would first attempt to kill the cops or whoever tried to apprehend me. Failing that, I would feign docility in order to get out as soon as possible and then kill a representative of the industry as revenge. … killing cops is also very much a men’s issue. Every pig killed is also a blow against feminism, so men should be doubly elated whenever an officer goes down in the line of encroaching on our cognitive liberty.
This was his reaction to a news story about a police officer being killed:
Good news for men is rare in this hateful feminist utopia that is Norway, but today is a joyous day! Today I feel schadenfreude in my heart along with all the hate that feminism and resultant mate deprivation have instilled in me. One blue thug less on the streets.
From another post on the same subject:
The swine Olav Kildal died while trying to enforce our lack of cognitive liberty. This was a defensive, much deserved killing that cheered me up.
Here he threatens a female prosecutor:
To feminist prosecutor Anne Cathrine Aga I have the following message: The Men’s Movement is watching you, bitch, and we are seething with hatred against you personally and the police state you represent. Actions have consequences. Trials are still (mostly) public and they sink into our collective minds, where they form the basis of future activism. Hate breeds hate — that is a fact of life too smugly ignored by feminists. …
2011 is the year Norwegian men as a group emerged out of the blogosphere and into the battlefield. This in turn has led to a breakthrough for MRAs such as my good self in the public discourse, probably for the simple reason that the powers that be now realize ignoring us has deadly consequences. Men are angry now, and we have proven that we are deathly serious about resisting feminism. So the feminist prosecutors referred to above ought to wipe that smug look off their faces before it is too late. Clearly seventy-seven body bags wasn’t enough, but I am fairly confident that you will be sorry one day.
Aside from the explicit threats of violence, the violent and threatening rhetoric here is not unlike much of the rhetoric we see regularly on A Voice for Men and other MRA sites. AVFM founder Paul Elam, for example, told one feminist that:
I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea of fucking your shit up gives me an erection. … We are coming for you.
The blogger Emma the Emo, Berge’s girlfriend, has posted comments here in the past defending him. The news account quotes someone identified as Nataliya Kochergova, described as his girlfriend; I assume this is “Emma,” because what she told the media is similar to what she posted here. She of course denies that he planned any real violence. According to the article, she said:
There are not really threats. He has never had plans to kill someone, he has said several times in his blog. When for example, he says that “the police killings are an effective way to prevent stupid laws,” it’s a factual description and not a threat. Even those who love the police agree with it.
Berge, for his part, has stated publicly that if he had not met Emma, he probably would have killed by now:
At the time I wrote my last blog post, I believed I would probably become Norway’s first modern violent activist in peacetime. Celibacy enforced by a feminist regime had driven me to the point where I saw no other option. I would target the pigs who enforce feminist law, knowing I could realistically at least kill one of them before I would be captured or killed myself. Thus revenge would be assured and if I lived, my reputation as a violent criminal would make me attractive to some women. But then in the nick of time this blog attracted a lovely girl commenting as “Emma.”
This is why I take violent rhetoric from MRAs very seriously.
Meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic, MRAs glorify MRA “martyr” Thomas Ball, who killed himself on the steps of a New Hampshire courthouse last year in hopes that his death would inspire MRAs to literally burn down courthouses and police stations.
Ball’s manifesto is still up on A Voice for Men in its “activism” section, including these passages:
So boys, we need to start burning down police stations and courthouses. … This is too important to be using that touchy- feeling coaching that is so popular with business these days. You need to flatten them, like Wile E. Coyote. They need to be taught never to replace the rule of law. BURN-THEM-OUT!
Most of the police stations built in New England over the last 20 years are stone or brick. Fortunately, the roofs are still wood. The advantage of fire on the roof is that it is above the sprinklers
AVFM tastefully omitted Ball’s specific instructions on how to make Molotov cocktails, but left this in:
There will be some casualties in this war. Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.
For many more examples of violent threatening rhetoric from MRAs, I urge you to go through some of my posts here and here.
Don’t let me catch you accusing feminism of cultivating a victim mentality. (I will find it fucking hilarious.)
Wait, wait, guys, I can make him go away:
Hey Steele, I wonder why the MRM doesn’t have a couch network for men. When a man loses his home, either due to divorce or economic struggles, the MRM could really help him out by keeping a network of trusted MRAs with couches or spare bedrooms they were willing to open to a man in need. Have MRAs ever considered doing this?
2000 comments, here we come!
Also, calling a woman “creepy” is obviously not calling her a man. Calling a man “bitch” is calling him a woman.
Well, not yet. I think we’re on our way, though. I have a vision of a feminist future in which “creepy” becomes synonymous with “male”.
The MRM has seen the writing on the wall. Among other things, we’re here to stop it.
You’re the one insisting creepy is gendered male, but we’re the ones that are making it happen? Wuh?
And since Steele’s so fond of definitions, here’s the Oxford Dictionary of English:
creep: (informal) a detestable person, a person who behaves obsequiously in the hope of advancement.
creepy: causing an unpleasant feeling of fear or unease.
Obviously, there’s a bit more under ‘creep’ (“move slowly and carefully in order to avoid being heard”), but that’s the relevant bit. And it’s not remotely gendered.
The definition of ‘bitch’, by contrast, is unambiguously gendered.
bitch: (informal) a malicious or unpleasant woman.
(Again, I’ve removed the contextually irrelevant definitions to do with female dogs)
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Now we’ve gone from arguing the dictionary, which is tedious enough, to arguing the hypothetical science-fiction dictionary.
“Please don’t use words against me that will be slurs in the feminist future!”
No, Steele, we are NOT going to play the definition game with “creepy” the way we did the m-word. FUCK OFF, YOU TIRESOME PEST.
You’ve seen the writing on the wall? I hope it was written by someone with more talent than you.
Oh, and I seriously doubt I’m the only person who regards our resident female troll Ruby as being intensely creepy. Especially on the subject of prison rape.
Don’t use it because it’s a gendered slur, but it’s not a gendered slur yet, but you evil feminists are trying to make it that wa—
I’m sorry. You broke logic, Steele. Please reset the universe.
Steele, you idiot, do you want calling someone a man to be the insult that calling someone a woman is in this culture? Because this:
implies that you do.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA – Cliff
Now, now, don’t hurt yourself this early, we’ve still got another 500 rounds of the same thing to go yet. 😛
As with “misandry”, “creepy” can have more than one connotation. One is the dictionary definition- the layman’s- which Wetherby has provided. Sure. But another is a gendered, anti-male slur, which has arisen through cultural consensus.
You all keep forgetting that I never denied your definition of “misandry” was valid. It’s just not the only one. It’s the same with “creepy”.
Can we all just let Steele “win” this round? Makes him go away.
The only cultural consensus in which “creep” is gendered and anti-male is the consensus of MRAs circle-jerking on the Internet.
Yay, Steele wins, “creep” is a slur against men! Like when I really hate a woman, I’m always like “you creep, why don’t you just, um… put on work boots and fix a car!”
It’s a pointless argument anyway, because it’s not like MRAs would actually stop using gendered slurs under any conditions.
Its an anti male slur….there just is no dictionary that will admit it!!
Duly noted. I’ll continue to call creepy people creepy and you can continue to call people whatever slurs you’d like. And we can both disapprove of one another. Agreed? Excellent.
Now that we’ve settled that, care to address the ways in which you as a MRM activist work to help men with men’s issues?
Dictionaries are part of the Feminist Conspiracy!
“The real world one and the one MRAs try to pretend exists” then?
Hint: Misandry does not exist as a separate axis of oppression outside of your fevered imagination. The only place it meaningfully applies is when discussing the differences in how men and women are oppressed on other axes… and men universally get off lighter. It just doesn’t make sense to call the, for instance, racist shit they go through misogyny.
In other words, you can’t actually support this with anything but your own words, but you still expect us to respect it. Lackwit.
I’m pretty sure I’ve applied “Creep” more to women who are fucking creepy in the last two weeks, incidentally.
It’s like watching honkies scramble to use racist slurs. Jesus tapdancing christ.
Small group of MRAs agreeing on something on MRA sites = cultural consensus. Obviously.
Once again, Steele’s teacher was not wrong when she told him that a career in writing was probably not his best option.
Oh, FFS. A guy who approaches a woman he doesn’t know at night, when there are few people around, to tell her he “watches her every day” as she walks to and from work is not a victim. He is a creepy person, and has only his own behavior to blame. And hey, that is still true if you reverse the genders.
By the way, Steele, Tom Martin is one of you. He is a true MRA. Endorsed by A Voice for Men, National Coalition for Men, etc.
If its so culturally ingrained why is it not included in the dictionary?
The f word (don’t want to get caught in moderation) can mean a bundle of sticks or cigarettes but the dictionary includes it a slur against gay men even though it can be used against anyone who is not gay. Same with “bitch” which can mean a female dog or can be used against people other then women yet the dictionary includes its a slur against women. Noticing a pattern? No dictionary will say creep or creepy is a slur against men only because its not, it’s not a culturally ingrained slur against men unlike the words I listed.
GENDERED SLURS BREAKDOWN 2K12
Calling a man a “bitch” usually implies that he has been bested or dominated in some way by another man, or that he is whiny and/or weak. In other words, it is an insult because he is like a woman in the sexist view: weak and capable of being dominated.
Calling a woman a “creep” usually implies that she creates a sense of vague or not so vague unease in someone based on the amount or kind of attention she is paying to someone else.
As we can see, these things are exactly alike.
Steele: Your frequent usage of the gendered slur “creep” has been noted.
What’s gendered about it? I think Ruby is a creep. Other women (I think in this very thread) have been called creeps. here in manboobz.
Your friend, Merriam-Webster, doesn’t even think it’s an insult:
Definition of CREEP
1 : a movement of or like creeping (traffic moving at a creep)
2 : a distressing sensation like that caused by the creeping of insects over one’s flesh; especially : a feeling of apprehension or horror —usually used in plural with the
3 : a feed trough accessible only by young animals and used especially to supply special or supplementary feed —called also creep feeder
4 : the slow change of dimensions of an object from prolonged exposure to high temperature or stress
5 : an unpleasant or obnoxious person
6 : a slow but persistent increase or elevation (this political inertia … makes budget creep inevitable — Wall Street Journal)
We know you wouldn’t dream of saying a dictionary was incorrect, esp. not Merriam-Webster, If they could be wrong about so crucial a word as creep, they might be mistaken about misandry,
And what is it with MRAs and the ominous language? You going to show up at my work and tell people I call creeps creeps?
You going to proudly tell them you like to call women cunts and pussies when I point and laugh?
If the MRM wants me to think it’s actually concerned with equality, it will stop using those terms on it’s own.
If you want me to think you aren’t a weaselly little creep who lies like a cheap rug (i.e. all the time, but not very well), you’ll explain to me how Korea’s rate of fatality was less than that in Vietnam, and provide the videos you promised (of men’s deaths being celebrated, just because they were men. Not abstrat men, real men. We aren’t talking about your fantastic little rape victim here, we are talking real men, who were really killed).