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Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge arrested for death threats against police [UPDATE 3]

Eivind Berge and police

Norwegian Men’s Rights Activist blogger Eivind Berge, known for his violent rhetoric and rape apologia, has been arrested for death threats against police.

Not too surprising, given that he once announced on his blog that “[k]illing at least one cop is on my bucket list.”

Here are some Google-translated details from a news account here:

The right-wing extremist and anti-feminist blogger Eivind Berge has been arrested for having encouraged and glorified the killing of policemen. The police have found both ammunition and textbooks in use of explosives at Berge.

The police regard the threats as an invitation to others to kill police officers, but also feared that he would commit the acts themselves shortly.

He was evidently arrested on Wednesday. According to this story — at least as far as I can tell from the obviously crude Google translation — he made a specific threat to kill a police officer this Saturday:

Berge also writes about how he was planning to attack a policeman with a knife on a Saturday evening:

“Then I used the trial to come forward as a good example for men, and I considered it to be worth 21 years in prison for premeditated murder.”

According to this account, Berge is being held for two weeks. He claims innocence.

Berge, as readers of this blog may well already know, is a fan of right-wing terrorist and mass murderer Anders Brevik. On his blog, he’s also argued (among other things) that “Rape is Equality.”

He’s glorified the murder of police on his blog numerous times.

Some examples, taken from the second news account:

“… attack on the police is something 100% in harmony with everything I stand for.”

“I maintain that police murder is both ethically and tactically correct.”

Some other examples, direct from his blog (each paragraph is from a separate post; click on the quote for the source):

I viscerally despise cops and wish them the worst. Killing at least one cop is on my bucket list.

If ever a victim of psychiatry, here is what I would do. I would first attempt to kill the cops or whoever tried to apprehend me. Failing that, I would feign docility in order to get out as soon as possible and then kill a representative of the industry as revenge. … killing cops is also very much a men’s issue. Every pig killed is also a blow against feminism, so men should be doubly elated whenever an officer goes down in the line of encroaching on our cognitive liberty.

[I]f you are a victim of psychiatry, it is probably in your best interest (as well as a publicly beneficial act of activism) to kill a guard or cop in order to get a fair public trial and possibly escape treatment before it ruins your health completely.

Rather than cowering in fear of the police, I assumed a warrior mentality and started hating law enforcement. I really, really wanted to hurt those responsible for enacting and enforcing feminist sex law.

This was his reaction to a news story about a police officer being killed:

Good news for men is rare in this hateful feminist utopia that is Norway, but today is a joyous day! Today I feel schadenfreude in my heart along with all the hate that feminism and resultant mate deprivation have instilled in me. One blue thug less on the streets.

From another post on the same subject:

The swine Olav Kildal died while trying to enforce our lack of cognitive liberty. This was a defensive, much deserved killing that cheered me up.

Here he threatens a female prosecutor:

To feminist prosecutor Anne Cathrine Aga I have the following message: The Men’s Movement is watching you, bitch, and we are seething with hatred against you personally and the police state you represent. Actions have consequences. Trials are still (mostly) public and they sink into our collective minds, where they form the basis of future activism. Hate breeds hate — that is a fact of life too smugly ignored by feminists. …

2011 is the year Norwegian men as a group emerged out of the blogosphere and into the battlefield. This in turn has led to a breakthrough for MRAs such as my good self in the public discourse, probably for the simple reason that the powers that be now realize ignoring us has deadly consequences. Men are angry now, and we have proven that we are deathly serious about resisting feminism. So the feminist prosecutors referred to above ought to wipe that smug look off their faces before it is too late. Clearly seventy-seven body bags wasn’t enough, but I am fairly confident that you will be sorry one day.

Aside from the explicit threats of violence, the violent and threatening rhetoric here is not unlike much of the rhetoric we see regularly on A Voice for Men and other MRA sites. AVFM founder Paul Elam, for example, told one feminist that:

I find you so pernicious and repugnant that the idea of fucking your shit up gives me an erection. … We are coming for you.

The blogger Emma the Emo, Berge’s girlfriend, has posted comments here in the past defending him. The news account quotes someone identified as Nataliya Kochergova, described as his girlfriend; I assume this is “Emma,” because what she told the media is similar to what she posted here. She of course denies that he planned any real violence. According to the article, she said:

There are not really threats. He has never had plans to kill someone, he has said several times in his blog. When for example, he says that “the police killings are an effective way to prevent stupid laws,” it’s a factual description and not a threat. Even those who love the police agree with it.

Berge, for his part, has stated publicly that if he had not met Emma, he probably would have killed by now:

At the time I wrote my last blog post, I believed I would probably become Norway’s first modern violent activist in peacetime. Celibacy enforced by a feminist regime had driven me to the point where I saw no other option. I would target the pigs who enforce feminist law, knowing I could realistically at least kill one of them before I would be captured or killed myself. Thus revenge would be assured and if I lived, my reputation as a violent criminal would make me attractive to some women. But then in the nick of time this blog attracted a lovely girl commenting as “Emma.”

This is why I take violent rhetoric from MRAs very seriously.

Meanwhile, on this side of the Atlantic, MRAs glorify MRA “martyr” Thomas Ball, who killed himself on the steps of a New Hampshire courthouse last year in hopes that his death would inspire MRAs to literally burn down courthouses and police stations.

Ball’s manifesto is still up on A Voice for Men in its “activism” section, including these passages:

So boys, we need to start burning down police stations and courthouses. … This is too important to be using that touchy- feeling coaching that is so popular with business these days. You need to flatten them, like Wile E. Coyote. They need to be taught never to replace the rule of law. BURN-THEM-OUT!

Most of the police stations built in New England over the last 20 years are stone or brick. Fortunately, the roofs are still wood. The advantage of fire on the roof is that it is above the sprinklers

AVFM tastefully omitted Ball’s specific instructions on how to make Molotov cocktails, but left this in:

There will be some casualties in this war. Some killed, some wounded, some captured. Some of them will be theirs. Some of the casualties will be ours.

For many more examples of violent threatening rhetoric from MRAs, I urge you to go through some of my posts here and  here.

 

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Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

For fuck’s sake, you want to whine about my shit being “intangible”? You haven’t given me one thing, not one fucking thing that even resembles an actual response to the challenge I gave you.

All you fucking say is “The MRM is helping men.” HOW? Show what the MRM is doing that isn’t part of the fucking problem.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
13 years ago

This doesn’t work for everybody. Certainly, more tangible male problems- as opposed to this personal philosophy you’re touting- are not handled by the feminists.

And, once again, how is the MRM helping men address men’s issues? How does the activism of prominent figures like Berge and Martin help address men’s issues? What do you do to help address men’s issues?

ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
13 years ago

Btw I just solved Tom’s whole hard chair problem in like 5 seconds: take a cushion with you. Done, next.

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

I swear, these fuckers are making my blood boil today. Nothing but fucking excuses.

Ponkz
Ponkz
13 years ago

Oh, is Eurosabra saying because he subtitled an anti-rape PSA, he is therefore not that bad? As a professional subtitler, can I just say… AHA-HA-HA-HA!

I work for a company providing subtitles for most major television channels in the UK. I’m getting training in live subtitling at the moment, which is all done via voice recognition software and sometimes feels like I’m spending all day teaching an electronic parrot to talk. Occasionally I have to provide subtitles for political party broadcasts. Sometimes it’s politics I don’t agree with at all.

To suggest that because I’ve had to subtitle a Conservative Party political broadcast to a strict deadline that I’m a Tory would be ridiculous and (personally to me) offensive, so…. yeah, see where this is going?

ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
13 years ago

..and sometimes feels like I’m spending all day teaching an electronic parrot to talk. – Ponkz

…And now I want a robot parrot.

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

Ponkz – My roommate’s a transcriptionist! He complains frequently about having to transcribe things he finds personally repugnant. But he lives on the proposition “make noises into letters, get $$$,” not “carefully choose what to transcribe, as a form of personal expression,” just like pretty much every other transcriptionist on Earth.

Ponkz
Ponkz
13 years ago

ShadetheDruid – Oh, I wish it was as cool as that! I might bring in a wee stuffed parrot and sit it on top of my monitor and pretend that’s what’s speaking.

Also, just to confirm that indeed us subtitlers aren’t credited for stuff. Our company is credited, but not individuals.

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

Anyway opposing rape isn’t one of those “carbon credit” things, where you can go ahead and support rape advocates sometimes as long as you also do some work for anti-rape people.

(Especially, if when called on the rape advocate thing, your initial response is more “well, I like the guy except the rape stuff kinda” and less “I terribly regret that and I’ve tried to make up for it!”)

Ponkz
Ponkz
13 years ago

Cliff Pervocracy – Oh, fab! Yeah, our company is really busy and does transcription for loads of programmes so you just take what’s most urgent and work on it. Occasionally you can pick and choose if things are quiet (I love subtitling nature and music programmes), but generally you have to go with what’s the top priority. So I just have to grit my teeth through any number of banal reality shows and property shows – I HATE property shows! – and get on with it.

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

Ponkz – My roommate does mostly business transcription (recordings of meetings, focus groups, advertising material, and such), not TV shows. They’re handed out on an entirely “take the assignment you get or go home” basis.

It’s confidential so I don’t know details, but he’s complained numerous times about having to transcribe politically offensive or just plain slimy material.

Ponkz
Ponkz
13 years ago

Ah, right. It’s mostly TV I do but occasionally we get instructional videos and political material. I’m training at the moment to do subtitles for live news channels, which is all done via voice recognition.

Steele
Steele
13 years ago

Steele, go ahead and use misandry all you want to mean whatever you want. People with an IQ north of room temp will just think you’re silly, which you really, really are.

Is that why “misandry” is regularly used to refer to isolated instances of anti-male sentiment? And not just MRAs. Here’s a recent article from a dude criticizing the Sarkeesian harassers:

http://www.gamefront.com/misandry-in-videogames-oh-grow-the-f-k-up/

Now, I am not saying individual misandrists can’t exist.

And here’s a noted feminist:

http://www.hugoschwyzer.net/2005/01/12/defining-misogyny/

Most of us take our own personal negative
experiences and, at least for a while, allow them to make us
fundamentally suspicious of (and perhaps openly hostile to) the other
sex. This is one form of genuine misogyny — or, yes, misandry.

Want more? I could find it, but I think I’ve demonstrated that you’re full of crap. Whether or not misandry exists on a systemic level, the word can and is used to refer to isolated instances as well.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Ah, yes, Hugo Schwyzer, noted feminist and complete fucking douchenozzle.

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

Misandry means individual hatred of men!
Misandry also means systemic hatred of men!

Someone, somewhere surely has an individual hatred of men.
Therefore misandry exists.

Therefore systemic hatred of men exists.

QED.

There, I summed it all up so we don’t have to do 800 posts again.

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

Schwyzer? Really? Try Harder.

Sharculese
13 years ago

yknow the funny thing is, whether or not the high priest of ‘because i said so, that’s why’ can stomach accepting tom martin as a true scotsmans, hes done more to fight for ‘mens rights’ than steele ever will.

i mean, yeah, he’s been a pathetic failure, but taking a risk and failing trumps playing angry word games in blog comments.

ShadetheDruid
ShadetheDruid
13 years ago
Steele
Steele
13 years ago

Someone, somewhere surely has an individual hatred of men.
Therefore misandry exists.

Therefore systemic hatred of men exists.

No, I’m saying that even if I conceded, hypothetically, that misandry isn’t a systemic problem, the word “misandry” could still be used to describe anti-male bullshit.

Sharculese
13 years ago

idk i guess schwyzer is still technically a feminist. i mean just because he’s also an attempted murderer and a huge narcissist doesnt take away from that shit, unless we’re gonna descend into steeles dumbass purity logic?

Steele
Steele
13 years ago

For the 50th time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

And I say again, this is vague nonsense and astounding bullshit. The mere existence of the word “misandry” in no way implies an equivalence to “misogyny”. To establish that- in your opinion- misogyny is a greater problem, you can say that misogyny is systemic, or pervasive, or etc. And obviously, you have done so, in spades

“Racism”, though it is a neutral term, in no way implies that all races are discriminated against equally.

Cliff Pervocracy
13 years ago

No, I’m saying that even if I conceded, hypothetically, that misandry isn’t a systemic problem, the word “misandry” could still be used to describe anti-male bullshit.

You know what, fuck it, go ahead and do that if it’ll shut you up.

Steele
Steele
13 years ago

unless we’re gonna descend into steeles dumbass purity logic?

Wow. It’s not me that wants to define “misandry” as something that is completely pervasive, always ALL THE TIME!, or something that never exists ever and can never be used to describe anything.

Steele
Steele
13 years ago

You know what, fuck it, go ahead and do that if it’ll shut you up.

It’s the logically correct position on the issue. I don’t know what your objection is.

Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

You’ve read what people’s objections are, time and again.

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