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The scribbled-out face of the Men's Rights Movement

Sometimes MRAs are infuriating; sometimes they are hilarious. And once in a long, long while they are simply adorable. Consider xavan512 (not his real name), a Redditor who thinks it’s high time that MRAs launched a PR campaign to defend themselves against the mean things said about them by “radical feminist blog’s or other ignorant people” who think that:

“Oh those MRA’s just need to get laid” “They are a bunch of lonely neckbeards” “They are just bitter” “They are probably forever alone’s” “They hate women” “Misogynists” ect.

Basically they are trying to make our concerns appear illegitimate because we must be whiny losers. Or because we “hate” women since we don’t adhere to the feminist dogma.

Ok, you say, so far he’s just being sort of irritating. But here is where the “adorable” part comes in. You see, whenever  feminist meanies suggest that MRAs are woman-hating losers, xavan512 proposes, MRAs should respond with “hard evidence” to counter this perception.  No, not penis pictures. Something even better:  pictures of themselves with actual, smiling girlfriends.

Xavan512 started by posting the picture in the top right. Yep, that’s xavan512 and his actual girlfriend, standing in a field, dressed to the nines (or at least the high sixes or sevens). He’s looking dapper in his suit, accented with a bold red tie, and she of course looks lovely in a totally cute dress with an utterly adorable tiny pink purse. I’m not sure if they’re on their way to a prom, or a wedding, of if they just like posing in outdoor settings.

By the way – I didn’t scribble over the faces  on the picture. Xavan512 did that himself, because, he insists, “being publicly MRA is socially taboo.”

After posting this photo, which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that xavan512 thinks highly enough of at least one human female that he is willing to stand next to her long enough to get a picture taken, this newly self-appointed MR PR guru urged his fellow MRAs “to post a picture of yourself or mention if you have a girlfriend/wife.”

Alas, xavan512’s plan met a certain degree of resistance from fellow Reddit MRAs.

OThomson complained:

Why post a picture of ourselves with our girlfriends, we do not need the Validation of a Women to make our cause just, i’ll freely admit i’m single and looking for the right person because looking for non-crazy, non-privileged, non-annoyance is a genuine trouble these days, i don’t resent Women for that (Ok i slightly resent their position as sexual selectors for our species because it gives them so much power over men) but on the whole i’m an MRA because i want to defend my rights and the rights of all Men.

Francomaistre was even more cutting in his criticism:

I’m sure you propose this with the best of intentions, but I’m with OThomson on this. Trying to engineer some kind of phoney boloney PR campaign with cherry picked images of smiling couples professionally photographed in semi-formal dress in pastoral settings seems like a pretty dramatic mischaracterization of many MRA’s experiences and subtly subverts the movement and concerns that drives many of us to be MRA’s in the first place.

Maybe it’s a separation or divorce situation, maybe we’ve been subject to a false rape or domestic violence accusation, maybe we’re sick of being stereotyped by the media as dim-witted psycho-violent timebombs just waiting to be tripped, or are just generally sick of being treated by second-class citizens by “empowered women” who can judge our sexuality, shame us, and even inflict physical violence on us almost entirely without consequence.

Someone woke up cranky today!

Here’s the thing: the adorableness of xavan512’s picture aside, if MRAs are tired of people calling them misogynists, there’s a much more direct way to challenge this perception – and that is to challenge the rampant misogyny in the MRM.  You want examples? Check the archives here. I’m kind of a lazy bastard, and I don’t like doing any more research than I have to, yet over the relatively brief lifetime of this blog I’ve managed to post literally hundreds of pretty outrageous examples of misogyny from the mouths of (or, rather, the keyboards of) MRAs. And that’s only scratching the surface. I don’t read every MRA blog every day. And I only post a tiny, tiny fraction of the misogyny I run across.  It is everywhere in the MRM.

If you’re an MRA, and you’re NOT a flaming misogynist, and you want your issues to be taken seriously, don’t post pictures of yourself with your smiling girlfriend.  Challenge the misogyny that surrounds you. Get together with other MRAs, and drum the misogynists out of the movement. Build bridges with feminists working on men’s rights issues. Just say no to the douchebags.

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Jumbofish
Jumbofish
10 years ago

[blockquote]Magdelyn is a pretty unusual MRA, and I’ve often wondered what on earth led her to identify as one… there are plenty of other affiliations one can claim if one simply doesn’t like feminists[/blockquote]

Same here, I can even imagine her reaction to other mras considering how much they hate people who don’t fit into traditional gender roles and women. :’(

Jumbofish
Jumbofish
10 years ago

gah quote fail again.

Johnny Pez
10 years ago

Sarah, if I flounce for two days will I also get a hug?

cynickal
cynickal
10 years ago

Ion is truly a manly-man. Look at how far and frequently he moves those goal-posts. Many times while jumping conclusions, fighting (and losing) old arguments, avoiding questions, doubling down on fallacies, and circling back on false logic.

Ion
Ion
10 years ago

Ion is truly a manly-man. Look at how far and frequently he moves those goal-posts. -citation needed

Many times while jumping conclusions, -citation needed

fighting (and losing) old arguments -citation needed

avoiding questions, doubling down on fallacies, and circling back on false logic.
-citation needed

Thanks, cynickal. I’m not as manly as most of you, obviously, what with agreeing & echoing each other and bravely joining the dogpile when it’s time to tell off a “troll”, but I do try.

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

That didn’t last long. xD

Ami Angelwings
10 years ago

I didn’t notice he was back before this comment xD

So basically.. Ion couldn’t stay away… so he comes back and claims “SEE I TOLD YOU I WAS RIGHT” so he can save face and get back into trolling without making it seem like it’s cuz HE can’t stay away xD

Snowy
Snowy
10 years ago

Ion must really love us. I feel so special.

MertvayaRuka
MertvayaRuka
10 years ago

Saying this blog can’t thrive without trolls is like saying a dog can’t exist without fleas. Sure, dogs almost always end up with fleas and will scratch when they have them but overall they’re a lot happier without them.

However I don’t think fleas are anywhere near as self-congratulatory when they illicit scratching as our trolls are.

Magpie
Magpie
10 years ago

When I see the post title in the sidebar, I keep reading it as “ZRM for PM”. I wonder what his policy platform would be? 🙂

Johnny Pez
10 years ago

I wonder what his policy platform would be

BRANES

Which would probably be a better platform than the Liberal Party would come up with.

Kave
Kave
10 years ago

Angry Harry

He does know that 4 full-time jobs meaning 8 hours a day would mean there would be 32 hours a day, with none of them for sleep. Even given an extra 48 hours for a weekend would not make up the time.

Angry Harry has a strange perception of time, and also how a father views his daughters. Very creepy.

Kave
Kave
10 years ago

Ion

Last time I was here you decided to leave. What changed your mind?

Johnny Pez
10 years ago

Ion decided that we were helpless without him. It turns out he’s actually doing us a favor by trolling the blog.

What a guy.

xavan512
xavan512
10 years ago

I’m touched guys. I’m a very moderate MRA, do in fact support women’s rights, and try my best to combat misogyny when I see it. I’d figure you’d have bigger fish to “fry.”

I think the comments here are hilarious: “Oh that’s his sister,” “He’s so tall compared to her the picture must be photoshoped” “MRA’s must secretly their women.”

Why do I sense that a lot of this is projection? Hell, even celebrity blogger Amanda Marcotte says “one woman lets him touch her.” It really must get under your skin that I am relatively open about my beliefs, and have no problem dating or hooking up with hot women.

LOL@ porcupines complaining about kittens. Seems to sum things up.

kudos to johhny pez for being one of the few funny commentators.

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