Sometimes it’s useful to remember just what the early second wave feminists were reacting against. Here, from a comic circa 1970 (judging from the clothing) is a sort of double-whammy of misogyny: hide your smarts, girls, or you’ll end up a wizened old maid at the ripe old age of … twenty?
The MRAs today who prattle on about how declining marriage rates mean that men are wising-up to the evils of feminism need to remind themselves that delaying marriage is a good thing for both men and women (the earlier the marriage, the greater the likelihood of divorce; the later the marriage, the more time for men and women to get decent education, start a career, mature a bit, etc etc). In the fifties, obviously, the pressure for women (and to a lesser degree, men) to marry very young was immense. This comic suggests that these pressures didn’t vanish with the coming of the sixties counterculture or even with the first stirrings of second wave feminism.
Comic from Comically Vintage.
I like how NWO is harping on divorce and child custody, until he sees some actual facts & math, and then all of a sudden, the big problem is rape….
I would wager they’re higher in college for several reasons:
Abundant alcohol use
Frat parties
Group living
I always trot out the story of how my roommate would leave our room and leave the door wiiiide open while I was napping. We had a campus rapist who was, you guessed it (I guess) preying on girls in dorms who were sleeping with their doors unlocked. Fortunately not MY dorm. But my roommate was angry that I would tell her what to do (lock the fucking door if I’m sleeping). In situations where you’re relying on near strangers to help ensure your personal safety, and those people are selfish 18-year-olds … sexual assaults will probably happen.
That is terrible Choco…and I bet she would have blamed you if her actions led to your rape.
and I bet she would have blamed you if her actions led to your rape.
As would the MRAs.
Although they might be conflicted, being able to also blame the room mate.
“Although they might be conflicted, being able to also blame the room mate.”
Oh, what the hell. I blame feminism! Girls going to college! What’s next — dogs driving automobiles? Now, if you had stayed home and found a nice boy to marry, you girls wouldn’t have gotten yourselves into all this trouble. Tsk tsk. Now run along and make the nice officer a sandwich.
I had a guy tell me in high school that girls shouldn’t drive sports cars because guys would be intimidated. That was about 1969. Didn’t pay attention to him.
Crap… I hate trying to write equations. It doesn’t help that my math is more than 20 years old (Algebra, HS), or special purpose (various bits of trig from being a machinist… need to find true center, I can do that), and that typed symbology wasn’t what I learned; but I was really trying to avoid dividing by a percentage. I meant to write X/4, or X*.25.
Sarah: It’s not as if all is lost. It’s a poly situation. It is, in fact, one of those Triads Lady V was discussing (to be specific it’s what would be described in poly descriptives as an open V, so that she is at the apex (there being no romantic interest between her other primary partner and myself) and any of of is able to continue/establish new relationships.
But you just know that is an MRA trope… she gets to be “hypergamous” and collect the “fruits of his labors” from two men (never mind that I am the low-earner in the equation).
It’s simpler than it sounds, mostly because we are all grown-ups.
Feminism in 2011 has a totally different meaning than feminism had in 1970. Is “technology freedom” part of what feminism is all about these days? Perhaps we need to redefine the word feminism, because there is a whole lot of slavery these days – it has to do with our obedience to technology. And women are VERY wrapped up in the technology world.
Bee, it is a well-known fact that dogs drive cars, as this picture shows quite clearly:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51H3KBXYLjL._SL500_.jpg
@joe
Slavey is incapable of the subtle thinking required by the first option. When in doubt, always assume Slavey is wrong.
@mulbunny: I had one tell me women shouldn’t become president. This was at Christian high school (I was later expelled, but that’s a story for a different day). According to a Facebook conversation I had with the moron years later, he still believes this.
Something tells me he and Slavey would get along just fine.
I kind of prefer referring to NWO-whatever as “Slaver” in reference to the animated Star Trek episode.
Also, it seems funnier to me, because it is more true to his desires.
Women shouldn’t be zombies.
au contraire, I think his true desire really is to be a slave. His frustration stems from the fact that nobody wants him.
dunno what kind of backwater he lives in, but there HAVE to be some commercial doms in the area.
Not to pick an argument, Speedlines, but while you may be right, he also wants to enslave about half of the human race.
Off I go to LA/Henderson (to attend a wedding, it will certainly end in divorce XD) and then SLO.
Have fun while I’m gone.
That is quite a distance for a wedding-start in LA go to Henderson? Or is there one closer then the Nevada one?
bad enough with NWO claiming to be a slave, now here’s another claiming slavery (to technology):
you know, guys, claiming you are slaves where there are in fact actual human beings who are still in fact enslaved strikes me as yet another example, why should I be surprised, of your total indifference to any human suffering other than your own privilege-denying dickbiscuitry:
http://www.cpj.ca/en/blog/mariel/human-trafficking-tragedy-21st-century
Oh, and of course feminism in 2011 is different than 1970–which was different than 1890–and there multiple feminisms even then, and even more now.
http://sascwr.org/resources/pdfs/Feminism/Definitions%20of%20Branches%20of%20Feminisn.pdf
these are only the main ones explained fairly simply.
A clue, please get one.
And if Hal is in fact holding you captive, I am sorry for you, but you are still not a slave.
No, remember? All feminists think alike (and always have) and have a hive-mind so that they know what all others are thinking, even though they shouldn’t need to because of the thinking alike thing….
Yeah, still doesn’t make sense. Makes me want to take myself off to the fat, ugly, hairy, lesbo collective.
Pecunium, sweet! I’ll be hypergamous with you any day! *waggles eyebrows*
Amandajane5: over at fandom wank, they refer to themselves as the hive vagina.
I think that’s even better than hive mind, because, well, as far as the PDD (Privilege Denying Dickbiscuits) think, that’s all we are, vagina.
FEAR THE HIVE VAGINA!
IT……………..has TEETH!!!!!!
I retract my offer to buy Slavey Boy a beer. The only thing worse than a clueless moron is a drunk clueless moron. After reading it’s comments in this thread, I have gone from feeling pity and sadness to feeling pure disgust.
From now on, I will only offer to buy booze for those who please me. 😉
XDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXDXD!
I meant ‘its”. Doy.
@ithiliana I thought that was called Vagina Dentata? I mean, still hypothetical and stupid, but since I’ve never heard of a woman using her vagina as a weapon of war and I’ve heard of thousands of men using their penis as a weapon of war…clearly the men are right.
Because balls.