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>Bangkok Girl: Looking Behind the Fantasy of the Nubile, Pliable Non-Western Woman

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From foreignwomenonly.blogspot.com

It’s a commonplace fantasy amongst a certain kind of American man: to abandon a world filled with “picky,” “demanding,” “angry” women, infected with feminism and a sense of entitlement, to find paradise in the arms of a nubile, pliable, and above all grateful woman from an exotic place like Thailand, the Philippines, or Eastern Europe.

Not surprisingly, many Men’s Rights websites and forums are filled with angry rants about American (or more broadly, Western) women. “Western men have now had plenty of evidence over recent years of what western wimmin have become as a result of feminist  indoctrination and media propaganda,” writes Ledburian, a regular on the AntiMisandry.com message boards. “I reckon it would be a good idea for all western wimmin to be forced to carry tattoos on their foreheads warning all men that they can be a serious threat to male wealth and well being.”

Meanwhile, the “fun bachelor” behind foreignwomenonly.blogspot.com, a site whose URL conveniently encapsulates its message, assures his anxious readers that paradise is within reach of any Western man with a passport: “Date Foreign Women Only, and be treated like a king.”

The reality, of course, is far more sordid and depressing than the fantasy: The reason that some Eastern women are more agreeable to Western men has less to do with culture than it does with economics. Women in the west have more options, and so are less willing to put up with crap from Western men; women in countries where many if not most people are living in abject poverty may decide that putting up with disagreeable Western men is slightly less of a bad bargain than working a poverty-wage job and living in a shithole.

Recently, I watched a sad, powerful short documentary called Bangkok Girl (also known as Falang: Behind Bangkok’s Smile), a portrait of a bar girl in a city overrun with sex tourists from all over the developed world. The whole thing is worth watching — it’s available for instant watching on Netflix and on YouTube — but one scene stood out in particular for me: a street inverview with a drunken British expat who puts his arms around Pla, the girl at the center of the documentary, and declares to the camera that she’s his “girlfriend.” (She’s not.)

It’s immediately and abundantly clear that she wants nothing to do with the creepy lout — but he’s a regular at the bar and she’ll lose her job if she rebuffs him.  He’s either completely oblivious to her obvious discomfort, or he simply doesn’t give a shit. This is what “paradise” really looks like, to anyone really paying attention. Watch the scene here.

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Nick
11 years ago

>"You do realize that the woman in the picture is not actually saying all of those things, right"Yes, if you comprehend my post properly, that's why I used the words "and/or".You can deny the fact that the princess entitlement syndrome does not exists all you want. There is no point in arguing with someone who simply doesn't want to admit it or refuses to open his eyes.Secondly, to brand most or all Asian women as submissive dumbos is blatantly racist.As feminism is against sexism and also seems to complain a lot about white males being racist towards other ethnicities, you pretty much shoot your self in the foot if you want favour from feminist when you brand a whole race of females (Asian women) as someone who is submissive/mindless/dumb.This even weakens your argument more to think that most western men only want Asian women due to this racist point of view.

David Futrelle
11 years ago

>Sigh. Learn to read. I didn't say Asian women were submissive or dumb or anything like that. I said some men with Asian fetishes like Asian women because they (the guys) believe the stereotype that Asian women are submissive.

Nick
11 years ago

>David, it seems that way to me. Or it is that you think all western men who simply have choices/preferences, are racist or somehow evil?Wow, I wonder how well it goes when women's choices are criticised? Will we likely get accused in the terms of we can't handle a liberated woman with CHOICES? Us evil men are wanting patriarchy if we disagree with women making choices that we don't approve?WTF

David Futrelle
11 years ago

>Nick — Once again you have completely misread what I've written. I'm done here.

evilwhitemalempire
11 years ago

>These poor girls are making lots of money (i.e. relative to other occupations where they live) by catering to scum of the earth white males instead of making less money doing more 'dignified' activities like rice picking or something like that. Feminists think it's better for non-western women to live in abject poverty than it is for evil white dudes to get their rocks off with them.Nice to know that feminists can always be relied upon to place their sexual jealousies and insecurities above the interests of the poor.

evilwhitemalempire
11 years ago

>Oh and by the way David. You know that scene in that clip where she gives that man the finger?That's what we men do to our feminist wives and girlfriends when they aren't looking.

David Futrelle
11 years ago

>As I said in the post, "women in countries where many if not most people are living in abject poverty may decide that putting up with disagreeable Western men is slightly less of a bad bargain than working a poverty-wage job and living in a shithole."It's their choice, yes, but it's basically the least horrible of a bunch of horrible choices. They would be exploited if they worked in a factory for shit wages; they are exploited working as prostitutes. Prostitution pays better, but it's more degrading and dangerous; many of these women have HIV. They are exploited not only sexually, but also by corrupt police, criminals, etc etc. Read the post again, as you clearly missed the whole point of it, and actually watch the clip.

David Futrelle
11 years ago

>Well, I guess you did watch the clip. If that's your only reaction you are pretty stunted as a human being.

evilwhitemalempire
11 years ago

>"Prostitution pays better, but it's more degrading and dangerous"Coal mining pays better than most factory work but it's also more dangerous.Also about that clip. Why did she flip that guy off? Didn't she realize that if her sleaze boss saw that tape it would be back to the rice patty?Unless of course I'm looking at something not entirely candid. Not that the media has ever been known to lie or exaggerate to manipulate public opinion.

ScareCrow
11 years ago

>"The point here is that the retrograde Asian-fetishist guys I'm talking about here are using the word "respect" to mean something very different than what western women are "aggressively demanding""Asian-fetishist guys.A fetish is a sexual attraction to an inanimate object – such as high-heels, cigars, stockings etc…It is impossible to say that a man has a "fetish" towards an actual "woman".Excellent display of ignorance sir!I was not aware that Asians were now considered inanimate objects.That remarks was very condescending to Asian women.In fact, I'll go so far as to say it was racist and sexist.

ForeignWomenOnly
11 years ago

>If one were to actually go to one of many different foreign countries, one would observe that the women in those countries also treat the men THERE like kings. This is true even though many men there are POOR… No financial gain for the women there treating the men like kings. Your fantasy has been busted.–FWO

ForeignWomenOnly
11 years ago

>Also, there is no need to pay for foreign women. An American man with decent character, manners, and personality will have plenty of foreign women lined up to date him. He simply must learn about the foreign culture, and do his homework in advance.–FWO

ForeignWomenOnly
11 years ago

>Also, trying to associate the FWO blog with this documentary is just another of many Female Supremacist false accusations… one of the favorite pages out of their playbook.–FWO

Anonymous
11 years ago

>Articles like this are pure propaganda. They are designed solely to manipulate with the emotions of women in order to gin-up hatred of men. Shame on you Mr. Futrelle.

Anonymous
11 years ago

>The above should read: "manipulate the emotions."

evilwhitemalempire
11 years ago

>Just got done watching the whole wretched pile of cultural marxist shlock.Saw a lot of plain, middle aged guys having the time of their life with women the likes of which they could never have in the west. See the looks on those guys faces? Don't think I've EVER seen guys like that so happy before.No wonder the feminists want to shut it down!Enlighten me David. What insidious imperialist mechanism allows us evil white men to be responsible for that girls mom scalding her hand? That's a new one for me. It IS a tragedy she died. (Assuming that much of the documentary is even true which it always is because communists never lie.)Of course it's also a tragedy when a straight, caucasian, male fireman dies rescuing some future femi-fascist from a burning building so she can grow up to pass laws making it a crime for a guy to go to a foreign land to get sex from a sweet girl who is obviously SOOOOOOO oppressed by the 'falang' that one of them once gave her a gold watch and necklace!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nick
11 years ago

>What Gavid doesn't realise or refuses to admit is that these bangcockworhipping bitches are in this position by choice.Just think of the whole population of thai women in poverty. If the whole population of thai women in poverty were in these gogo bars, there would be millions of these bars. Obviously there are not millions of these bars as women in poverty have other choices.So do us all a favor and be another person who doesn’t blame men…like men are blamed for nearly all women's problems in this world.

Anonymous
11 years ago

>"What matters is that people treat each other with respect."Most Western women are disrespectful towards men and masculinity.

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cat
11 years ago

>Bangkok is a world capital of human trafficking, most of those girls aren't there by choice, hell, most of them are truly underage girls, not women (here's a link with some facts about human trafficking in Thailand http://www.uri.edu/artsci/wms/hughes/thailand.htm). A lot of these women and children are litterally being sold as slaves. And, men who look to buy a foreign woman are looking for a slave. Thinking that you can spend $2000 and then 'own' a woman who will be your live in servant and sex toy who can't leave because you control her immigration papers and every other aspect of her life means that you are looking for a slave. There is no choice involved in slavery.Also, men who fetishize foreign and asian women as submissive and obedient are racists, just like men who fetishize black women as oversexed and agressive are racists. Relating to people only via racist stereotypes is racists. Duh.

Anonymous
11 years ago

>CatHere is a quote from your link"Around 80,000 women and children have been sold into Thailand's sex idustry since 1990"Since 1990, right? That seems like a very small minority compared to how many gogo girls roam these places.In my younger years, I used to roam around these types of bars with mates to get majorly pissed.The stories from these women were very different to the "poor women are oppressed" story that feminists try to paint over every woman on the planet to demonise men.These women were there by choice. They had the freedom to walk out the bars and roam the streets any time they wanted. When they got clients, they went to unknown hotels/motels or even back to the clients place. They had their own little flats they lived in. They used to save up money and go back to family in provinces to help support their needs.A slave wouldn't have any such freedom, am I right?I am not saying that human trafficking is non-existent. However, I find it to be a very poor argument how the feminists on here are trying to say that all these western males are seeking Asian women in slavery. Maybe a very small tiny minority of western men may be this messed up in the head. But around 99 percent of western males would just simply want a sexy Asian woman who is different to western women without submission in their mind.Where are these men who are looking to buy women? You see, there is a difference between RENTING a woman by her consent for ONE NIGHT then there is to forcefully buy a woman to own for the rest of your life. Secondly, are you going to make a cockeyed claim and say that all or most or even a quarter of western men who go to thailand look in gogo bars or look for human trafficking outlets? Are feminists such as your self seriously this stupid?But feminists such as your self want to twist the real story into such ridiculous claims for another excuse to demonise men."Also, men who fetishize foreign and asian women as submissive and obedient are racists, just like men who fetishize black women as oversexed and agressive are racists. Relating to people only via racist stereotypes is racists. Duh."Where are all these men who want Asian women because they only want submissive women? Can you please back this up with proof? It’s such a laughable argument to say western men only want Asian women for submission.Again, this is just another cheap shot to demonise men because feminists and other western women are butthurt at the fact that western men simply don't want them. Western men are entitled to have choices to, ya know. Just like the battle cry the liberated woman has, "We 21st century liberated western women are entitled to have choices" wah wah wah. And any man who is against this is a sexist/chauvinist.It's a 2 way street, men get to have choices to. Even when it’s not in the spoilt western woman's favour.Get over it

evilwhitemalempire
11 years ago

>Feminists pretend sex workers are victims. Why?So they can pretend to feel sorry for them. Why?So that no one will suspect that they are just jealous. "I'm not jealous! How can I envy someone I feel sorry for?"If feminists REALLY cared about women (as a group) they would do more for women living under Sharia law.Know why they don't? Because young women of middle eastern descent are some of the most gorgeous women on earth! The last thing that feminists want (hell western women in general for that matter) is for those girls to be able to cast off their beekeeper suits.This is why feminists say things like "Richard Dawkins only objects to the burka because it deprives him of the 'priviledge' of the male gaze."Women invariably despise anything that can provide men with better or cheaper sex than they themselves are willing or able to furnish.

Nick
11 years ago

>Bringing Up Princess: Turning Girls Into Narcissists http://www.leaderpost.com/life/Princess+culture+turning+girls+into+overspending+narcissists/3403856/story.htmlThis is a perfect example how western women are raised these days. Many to most western women these days demand men to hand them everything on a silver platter and treat them with royalty or else men are deemed as someone not respectful or worthy towards women. Yet these same entitled princesses are not willing to give any reciprocity in return as they obviously think being a woman is worth more than being a man.This is a perfect example how western women these days have no respect for men as they treat men as lower human beings. They exaggerate the claim of not making themselves someone easy and cheap by putting an unjustified price on them selves. Unfortunately in western culture, men are raised to fall for such rubbish or else get looked down upon. This is how such rubbish keeps prevailing. Instead of something being done about it, people just buy more and more rubbish.Regards to the article, it's not just turning western women into narcissists, it also turns them into extreme chauvinists. But this truth is too politically incorrect to be raised as a concerning issue to the general public.

fred
11 years ago

>Those Thai women act like they like you so you'll give them money and not beat or kill them. They hate you as much as western feminists do. Rightfully.

Asurpat
11 years ago

>Heh. As the sociologist Eric Cohen observed in his account of fieldwork in a lane inhabited mostly by Thai bargirls, the western sexpats were divided into two groups: the fresh-off-the-planes, with starry eyes and dreams of how much more respectful, sweet and soft-spoken the local girls would be… And the oldtimers, made bitter by the realization that humans are humans, and are ultimately looking out for their own good. Shocking, I know. And Thai women treating their (Thai) husbands/boyfriends like kings? I lol'ed. Most of the Thai (and Khmer) women I've been friends with over the years make no bones about how much they loathe their partners. It's economics and social stigma. Anyone — whatever their heritage — who sees this as a good thing needs a little dose of the golden rule.

ForeignWomenOnly
11 years ago

>“And Thai women treating their (Thai) husbands/boyfriends like kings? I lol'ed. Most of the Thai (and Khmer) women I've been friends with over the years make no bones about how much they loathe their partners.”I posted that same observation on many blogs and forums, and nobody who actually has spent any substantial time in non-Western foreign countries has ever been able to dispute it… Makes me willing to bet that you’ve never personally known any foreign women. I challenge all men to spend a couple of months in a non-Western foreign country to observe the truth for themselves.

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