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8channers defend themselves against charges of transphobia with more transphobia

 November 24, 2014
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Panning for poop on 8chan

Panning for poop on 8chan

Yesterday, I noted some of the nasty transphobia that had shown up in a recent /gg/ thread on 8chan, undercutting somewhat the claims to respectability we’ve been hearing a lot of from GamerGaters recently. Well, 8channers noticed my post, and weren’t exactly pleased about it.

But their responses to my post, well, they didn’t exactly suggest that the transphobia I saw in the earlier thread was some sort of fluke.

Oh, sure, some of the commenters complained, as my critics often do, that I had “quote mined” the earlier thread.

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Sitting cheek by jowl next to these comments were comments of a rather different sort. Trigger Warning for threats, transphobia, homophobia, etc.

 

 

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So, yeah, there’s really no need to posit vast conspiracies sending paid shills to shitpost on 8chan when it’s pretty clear a sizeable portion of their userbase is happy to post crap like this for free.

And there’s no need to mine for quotes like these when there are so many of them just sitting right there on the surface.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  1. katz says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:17 pm

    I’ve excused myself already.

    Well, THAT’S the truth.

    -16

    Reply
  2. Policy of Madness says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    Why does everyone have a racist uncle? What’s with that?

    I don’t have a racist uncle so much as a racist entire-family. My family are those people who, whenever someone crops up catching shit for being a racist or some other brand of bigot, immediately leaps to their defense. My parents went to Chik-fil-a for the first time in their lives after the owners turned out to be bigots, and they became huge Paula Deen fans when she was revealed to be a bigot.

    We don’t have useful conversations about anything deeper than what’s for dinner.

    Reply
  3. contrapangloss says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:25 pm

    He just failed to stay excused.

    For the record, you’re totally excused with regards to leaving. Go for it!

    You are not, however, forgiven for your rudeness, cluelessness, relentless sealioning, and other assorted and sundry faults.

    Reply
  4. sparky says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:27 pm

    Give a real reason why I am not welcome, or shut up, thebewilderness

    Ummmm…Mackey wants a “real reason” of why xe isn’t welcome here and “Your not welcome” isn’t justification enough?

    That’s rather creepy, isn’t it?

    http://promoteacceptance.samhsa.gov/publications/facts.aspx?printid=1

    You’re wrong about people with mental illness, Mackey

    Reply
  5. cassandrakitty says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:33 pm

    Everything is a vast and sinister conspiracy, and feminists are always to blame. It is known.

    Reply
  6. katz says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:34 pm

    I have a racist uncle too!

    -20

    Reply
  7. cassandrakitty says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:36 pm

    Today’s vast feminist conspiracy, for example, involves making nikujaga so as to both use up leftover sake and fill up the freezer. This, too, is designed to insult and torment random dudes on the internet. Again, it is known.

    Reply
  8. Policy of Madness says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:37 pm

    That’s rather creepy, isn’t it?

    Very creepy. Sounds like someone I used to know, who would try to argue that my feelings weren’t valid if I couldn’t explain why I felt them. Guy turned out to be a rapist. I’m sure that will surprise nobody.

    Reply
  9. kittehserf says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    I’ve trashed the troll’s last three comments. Let me know if he tries again, I’ll keep right on binning them. Could someone drop David (not the mods) a line if y’all want this one banned?

    cassandra, of course you can visit! I’ll even bump off any huntsmen that might turn up. ::note to self: stock up on insect spray::

    Reply
  10. kirbywarp says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:42 pm

    I accept this criticism. I am wary of all the stuff people try to attach to me

    And fuck you!

    Thanks, Mackey. You figuratively owe me a new keyboard.

    @WWTH:

    Why does everyone have a racist uncle? What’s with that?

    I dunno. Uncles are common to have, they’re one generation back, and the main thrust of the civil rights movement is only around 5 decades old? Or maybe it’s just that racism is degrading slower than a generation, so every generation has an uncle that’s even more racist than they turn out to be.

    Reply
  11. kirbywarp says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:45 pm

    @kittehserf:

    I dunno. On the one hand, this troll is being nice and staying in one thread. On the other hand, I don’t think he’ll leave if he isn’t banned, and he isn’t being very entertaining at the moment.

    Ah well, I’m done playing with this chew toy. The flavor’s gone off a bit.

    Reply
  12. Puddleglum says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    Why does everyone have a racist uncle? What’s with that?

    So the progressive families have someone to point to???

    I have a racist uncle. And a racist dad. My maternal grandmother was racist, but she also thought books sucked the oxygen out of rooms (she claimed she read that in Reader’s Digest, so it had to be true), so I’m gonna give her a bit of a pass.

    My ex inlaws were pretty much all racists. That was always fun at holidays. Now, I get to be grateful I never ever have to do holidays there again. Knocking on wood, before I jinx myself. Particle board counts, right?

    Reply
  13. kirbywarp says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:53 pm

    My dad’s usually not that bad racism wise, but for some reason he’s decided to express his deepest sympathies at every possibly moment for the poor buisnesses whose buildings were burnt down in the riots in Ferguson, with nary a peep for the murdered kid that caused it. Oh well. I’m living on my own now. He can sod off.

    Reply
  14. cassandrakitty says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    I’m guessing it would be a waste of time to try to explain to him that it may have been Cointelpro – the 21st Century version that led to those buildings being torched? There are videos where you can see what look very much like cops setting the fires.

    Reply
  15. kittehserf says:
    December 2, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    kirbywarp – yeah, that’s partly why I’d suggest anyone who wants this troll banned contact David direct. He’s low-level obnoxious and boring, for me. I’ll delete his crap quite happily, but he’s not much of a trolling contender. Dull, dull, dull.

    Reply
  16. kirbywarp says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    I doubt it. Even if you could somehow provide crystal clear proof that it wasn’t the rioters, he’d probably find some way to argue that the police needed to torch those buildings and that it was still the protestors’ fault.

    His primary source of news is probably Fox News, and I’m pretty sure he thinks that Welfare Queens are a real thing. I think his takeaway from Ferguson is that black people raise their kids to be criminals and that causes police to kill them.

    Reply
  17. kirbywarp says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:04 pm

    That previous comment was @cassandrakitty, and yeah, it would be a waste of time.

    Reply
  18. kirbywarp says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:06 pm

    Now that I type that out, I’m wondering how I ever thought that my dad wasn’t racist. Christ.

    Reply
  19. kittehserf says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    I’m pretty sure he thinks that Welfare Queens are a real thing

    Well, now I’m unemployed there is one Welfare Queen in the world. Though I bet being white and childless would excuse me from being lumped in as one of those people by racists.

    Reply
  20. Policy of Madness says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    Well, your first description was that he’s “not bad, racism wise.” That’s really different from being “not racist” so I think you knew.

    Reply
  21. kirbywarp says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    @PoM:

    I guess. Still, I definitely discounted some of his beliefs as just ignorance, like when someone doesn’t understand how privilege works and therefore assume black poverty is self-afflicted, rather than starting with the idea that black people are inferior.

    Ah well, whatever. Being an adult means you get to choose who you spend time with, and time spent with him isn’t fun. Easy fix.

    Reply
  22. Kim says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:18 pm

    I’ve trashed the troll… note to self: stock up on insect spray::

    Kitteh! What have you done?!

    Reply
  23. weirwoodtreehugger says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    My dad said one racist thing to me once. When I was first in puberty he told me that black guys would only want to get in my pants so watch out. That’s the one and only racist thing I’ve ever heard him say. It was just so weird. He’s normally pretty progressive. At least by white male baby boomer standards. Maybe he noticed his little girl was getting boobies and had a moment of panic? He probably doesn’t even remember saying it.

    Reply
  24. kirbywarp says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Sorry, to hear that, Kittehserf. Virtual hugs are available if you wish.

    Reply
  25. thebewilderness says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    Mackey, don’t tell anyone but the real reason no one wants to talk with you is that every time you type something the abusive asshat who won’t take no for an answer red flags catch the breeze of your bloviating and flutter like big red flags. That’s the real reason.

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  26. Policy of Madness says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:24 pm

    I’m a believer that “racism of ignorance” is still racism. There’s really no way to think that, for instance, black people are more likely to be poor because they choose to be poor, and not trace that back to an underlying base of racism. Even if someone has no idea what the causes of poverty are (and really there are many contenders for causes and no certainties) there’s no way to think that black people are differentially affected because of some inherent trait in a way that isn’t racist.

    My parents have a lot of racism of ignorance going. They think they have the answers even though they actually have no facts, and their answers just happen to be racist ones, and that makes them racists.

    Reply
  27. kirbywarp says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    @weirwoodtreehugger:

    Blech. Gross. I got a similar thing with my mom when my sister started dating a black dude. She didn’t quite go all out against it, it was more like “her boyfriend is, you know, black *knowing look*”.

    @Policy of Madness:

    Yeah, pretty much. There’s this thing where people are super interested in figuring out if a person is “racist” and letting that decide if an action or belief is therefore “racist,” when that’s really not how it works.

    Reply
  28. Policy of Madness says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:41 pm

    Man, this is dredging up all kinds of bad memories.

    My cousin, in high school, was dating a black guy. This was held as evidence of her low self esteem.

    My dad once made an anti-Semitic joke about how Jewish Hospital here in town charges high prices because: Jewish. He didn’t mean it in a mean way, and Jewish Hospital had literally just saved his life, but (here’s one for Mackey if zie is still hanging about) nobody makes a joke like that who isn’t racist somewhere inside. Non-racist people just don’t think to make jokes where Jews or any other racial group is the butt of it. Just like people who aren’t ableist don’t make “lighthearted” comments at the expense of the mad. That shit isn’t funny.

    My mom was once watching one of those shows where Andrew Zimmerman goes to strange furrin countries and eats their strange furriner food. He was in Australia, and my mom made a comment that was so shockingly racist that I won’t repeat it here.

    My family, ladies and gentlemen!

    Reply
  29. kirbywarp says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:42 pm

    Oh, right, before I forget. If anyone hasn’t seen this article on Dorian Johnson’s testemony in the Michael Brown case, I’ve found it extremely worthwhile. I’d wager the article approaches the truth of what happened, and why.

    Reply
  30. kittehserf says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:44 pm

    Kim:

    I’ve trashed the troll… note to self: stock up on insect spray::

    Kitteh! What have you done?!

    MUAHAHAHAHAHA!

    Fear not, I just binned his last three comments in a round of poke-the-troll. The insect spray is for when cassandra flees winter to brave our stinkin’ rotten summer. 😛

    kirby – hugs accepted (cos friends’ hugs are nice) but it’s fine, I was laid off in April and apart from cash being a bit tight, I’m not that bothered. After all look at all the modding time I’m getting! 😛

    thebewilderness –

    Mackey, don’t tell anyone but the real reason no one wants to talk with you is that every time you type something the abusive asshat who won’t take no for an answer red flags catch the breeze of your bloviating and flutter like big red flags. That’s the real reason.


    QFT

    Reply
  31. kirbywarp says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:45 pm

    @Policy of Madness:

    Sorry. That sounds like it’d be more fun than a literal barrel full of monkeys. Not very.

    Reply
  32. weirwoodtreehugger says:
    December 2, 2014 at 7:50 pm

    Blech. Gross. I got a similar thing with my mom when my sister started dating a black dude. She didn’t quite go all out against it, it was more like “her boyfriend is, you know, black *knowing look*”.

    The funny thing is, I don’t think it would phase him one bit if I had a black boyfriend now. He’s had two serious girlfriends who were black and my brother’s roommate is black. He usually likes pretty much everyone unless they’re a complete asshole. It was such an out of character thing for him to say.

    Reply
  33. kittehserf says:
    December 2, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    Sad thing: my sister briefly had an Aboriginal boyfriend when she was in her teens. Our racist father was totally pissed off about it. Forty years later … my sister’s a racist, long married to an even bigger racist. 🙁

    Reply
  34. weirwoodtreehugger says:
    December 3, 2014 at 4:17 pm

    Worst. Flounce. Ever.

    Reply
  35. contrapangloss says:
    December 3, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    Hey, at least zir worst flouncing abilities gives me a chance to reaquaint myself with some classic songs.

    Here’s one that totally matches the vibe in my head every time he puts fingers to post!

    The word is about, there’s something evolving,
    whatever may come, the world keeps revolving
    They say the next big thing is here,
    that the revolution’s near,
    but to me it seems quite clear
    that it’s all just a little bit of history repeating

    .. and I’ve seen it before
    .. and I’ll see it again
    .. yes I’ve seen it before
    .. just little bits of history repeating

    If he fails the flounce again:

    and the joke is rather sad,
    that its all just a little bit of history repeating

    Reply
  36. weirwoodtreehugger says:
    December 3, 2014 at 4:37 pm

    Or this lesser known but really song

    You’re the new newest thing; we’ve seen it all before.
    In fact I’ve seen it many times and I’ll see it many more.
    You know it won’t last; you know it never does –
    But better be a has been than to be a never was.
    You can get out quick and clean or prolong the agony:
    Whichever you prefer – it’s all the same to me.

    Reply
  37. kittehserf says:
    December 3, 2014 at 5:08 pm

    Fuck off, Mackey. All you’re achieving is demonstrating you’ve no respect for boundaries. Yeah, I’ve deleted another of your comments, aren’t I nasty?

    Reply
  38. Puddleglum says:
    December 3, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    Wait, Mackey is *still* posting? Woody may have some competition after all.

    Reply
  39. booburry says:
    December 3, 2014 at 6:40 pm

    kittehserf ~

    Well, now I’m unemployed there is one Welfare Queen in the world. Though I bet being white and childless would excuse me from being lumped in as one of those people by racists.

    I can’t stand people who do that kind of thing. Not that I have any love for people who hate safety nets in general, but when you make special exceptions for “the right” people it becomes painfully obvious you’re just a racist shithead.
    I’ve been on food stamps , which some of my coworkers know. They will be complaining about people on food stamps “screwing the system” and then remember that I (their boss) uses food stamps and spit out “Oh, but not like you! You actually need it!”. Riiight, because you know nothing about my finances OR any of these other people, you dumb racist shit.

    Reply
  40. kittehserf says:
    December 3, 2014 at 7:03 pm

    Yuck, yes, booburry, that sort of thing stinks.

    Reply
  41. N.H. Alicia says:
    October 7, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    This is why I stick to /tg/.

    Reply
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