This whole “mocking misogyny” thing? Apparently we’re doing it all wrong. Over on Reddit’s Men’s Rights Subreddit, jmnzz has helpfully explained what misogyny is, and what it isn’t.
Misogyny: The hatred of women
Not misogyny: Bad taste jokes about rape/abuse/etc. Logic. Counterarguments. Disagreements. Harsh language. Saying cunt. Saying bitch. Calling women names. Being pro-life. Calling every woman who accuses a man of rape a liar.
Why are none of these things misogyny? Because you do not have to hate women to do any or all of these things. You might, but not everyone who does them hate women.
Seriously. What on earth is misogynist about calling all the fucking cunts who accuse men of rape of being goddamn lying bitches? When guys call women lying whores, they do it out of love.
But hey, in all seriousness, I have to give Maggie props here for actually raising the issue of misogyny in r/mensrights.
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Your entire body of work here = stupidity. Along with self-centeredness, arrogance, and a density so massive it may threaten the time-space continuum.
No, it’s because you’re a fucking moron who can never look beyond, at best, a surface depth analysis of any subject you have discussed here, and you clearly struggle with that. Despite this, you have an amazingly arrogant outlook that assumes you always know best.
@Joe: Oh no…what will I do? How can I go on? My world is collapsing because some random commenter has “shunned” me.
But just for shits and giggles…where was I dishonest?
It’s funny, Meller, that according to you every single time a man acts like an asshole toward a woman, or women in general, they always have a perfectly good reason for it, even if you have no earthly clue what that reason might be.
Wait, how did that change the original words? They’re still gendered slurs. See, I can do this too:
f***** = a person you dislike
n***** = a person you dislike
What is your point?
hellkell, notice that I said that I DON’T think Brandon is even possibly as stupid as he would like us to think, so he turns around and says that I called him stupid. That’s not stupid, it is dishonest trolling. He knows exactly what he’s doing, which is lying through his teeth at every opportunity.
@hellkell: arrogance and self-centeredness does not equal stupidity.
Also, you think my thoughts are stupid because they go against your morality and your ideology. If I went to a non-feminist site, some would agree with me while others wouldn’t. What’s even funnier is that you think feminism isn’t the narrow ideology that it is.
Well there’s the whole mess that a person can even be ‘overly promiscuous’ and the fact that 99% of the time it’s only ever women who are considered such… but I’m sure that doesn’t have any unfortunate implications now.
Joe, I love the “gee, where was I dishonest?”bit. As if everything he’s ever brought up here hasn’t been.
Brandon wrote, “Calling one woman a bitch/cunt/whore is attacking/criticizing that individuals behavior. If I call a woman a bitch, that is attacking her behavior not something that she has no control over (like skin color).”
Holy cow, I JUST NEED TO GET RID OF MY CUNT! Why didn’t I realize this before???
Hang on, guys, I’ll be right back after my sex change. I just need a therapist’s note and $10,000…
Brandon, for the record: I do not think your thoughts are stupid. I think you are.
There are also a heck of a lot of insults you could use to call someone out that are actually non-gendered:
douchenozzle
asshat
bin liner
twit
…etc. I’m sure we could contribute many more options if you’re stuck for words other than bitch/whore/cunt.
@Snowy:
Faggot = a person you dislike solely because of their sexuality
Nigger = a person you dislike because they have black skin
@Rutee
That’s why I now use the word, “Nixon” in its place.
@Shaenon
Stand back! Brandon is about to do SCIENCE!!!
@Molly: I can do that too:
pushy
nagger
argumentative
arrogant
emotional
pain in the ass
whiny
and so on and so on
Just a thought… Feminists being destructive is a… bad thing, right? So, when men will all get sex/cleaning-robots, they won’t destroy all the bad women, I guess?
What do you think will happen, a few generations later?
Most men will live with fluffy robot, therefore won’t have child while female feminists, whether it is with the help of male feminists or sperm bank, won’t have any problem to keep breeding… DKM, I’m afraid your perfect solution will actually create a world controlled (yes, more than now) by feminists!!!1!!
@Molly:
And it isn’t even the use of gendered insults that is the main problem in this case; current society hasn’t caught up to the realities of true egalitarian living just yet, so people can be somewhat excused for their ignorance. The main problem is that, once the problem of gendered insults has been pointed out, the fact that some people insist on using them anyway and then go out of their way to create bullshit rationalizations.
If you’re not a sexist piece of shit, you answer the criticism of gendered insults by shifting to non-gendered insults. Only a bigot is irrevocably married to bigoted language.
Brandon: So why aren’t you just using those words? Why are you trying to act like certain insults don’t have their roots in a particular gender? Again, it’s not like I can easily get rid of my “cunt”, any more than a black dude can change his skin color .
Brandon: goood, you CAN do it! Now, you can stop use misogynistic slurs. Good for you.
@Molly: Because they are just words and I don’t see the need to self censor myself. I have to do that enough in my professional life, but my personal time is mine and I will use whatever words I feel are appropriate at that given moment.
Molly, in BrandonWorld, he can do want ever he wants.
So, Brandon, do you call Ashley those slurs?
Just because you feel worthless when someone calls you a cunt, that doesn’t mean that was the intention of the person who said that to you.
This is going in my Misogyny-A-Day Desktop Calendar.
Brandon, I asked you not to come back until you’ve tested your theory. Please step away from your computer, find some Jewish people, and call them the k-word. Explain that it’s their own fault if they feel bad, because they have no way of reading your mind and knowing for sure that you were trying to do that. (Unless they can read your mind. Wait, do Jews have telepathic powers, or am I thinking of Catholics?)
And anyway, it’s something they can change about themselves. Just like women can change having female genitals.
Please do not post again until you’ve run one or two of these tests. Thank you.
Do you also allow yourself to be racist, homophobic, ableist… during your personal time, or is it just misogyny that is too much too hide?
Please, everyone, ignore Brandon until he’s tested his theory. Otherwise we’re going to get another hundred posts of this silliness.
They’re just words, yet he gets all offended if we say we don’t think Ashley exists. And he claims feminists are as misandrist as the MRA is misogynist, which hints at offense to ‘just words’. Yet he insists his ‘just words’ are okay. Just fuck off, you egocentric ignoramus.