Over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, some of the loudest MRAs are celebrating the apparent end of Roe V. Wade with an outburst of mean-spirited gloating. “This is great news,” declares syedalired21.
“Imagine holding women accountable to the same degree men are held accountable in ANY manner?” writes B1G_Fan smugly.
The cheerful mood is not because MRAs have anything against abortion in principle. It’s because they think the right to abortion isn’t a right at all but a privilege that’s been granted only to (cis) women while (cis) men are, in their view, denied any “reproductive rights” of their own.
You might wonder how someone without a uterus could have any “reproductive rights” at all, but the MRAs have it all figured out. If women are allowed to get abortions, then men should be allowed “financial” or “paper” abortions — that is, they should be able to wriggle out of their child support obligations by signing a piece of paper.
“I’m pro-choice,” writes a Men’s Rights Redditor called Professional-Two5216.
But what bothers me if a female does not want the responsibility of pregnancy and of a child she can abort it. Ok. Her body her choice. I take no issue there.
But if a male (AKA The biological father) doesn’t want responsibility of the unborn child he is still forced to financially support said child post birth . If the mother is willing to carry the child to term despite the father’s objection, the father should be able to sign legal documents freeing him of any financial and social obligation
Mextremelymoderate is a bit blunter:
Women are getting a little taste of what it feels like to be a man. How does it feel ladies?
As some see it, feminists have forfeited the right to complain about an abortion ban, because they haven’t stood up for “paper abortions” along with real ones. According to McFeely_Smackup
Feminism dug this hole for themselves. they could have spent 50 years building widespread support across both sexes for reproductive rights, but instead they treated men with scorn and contempt for suggesting men deserve rights too.
Feminists, you did this. You’re on your own. Just like you always told me I was.
Women are complaining about losing reproductive rights that men never had. You can be 100% sure if the situation was reversed you wouldn’t hear celebrities going on any media outlets or social media talking about the injustice. But instead of women saying “hey, we need men’s support” all you hear about is how men are still trying to oppress women every God Damned Day. I’m sorry, after years of being told I’m the cause of all evil in the world I couldn’t really give a shit.
Some MRAs think that the Supreme Court’s (draft) decision will put them in a position of power when dealing with feminists. Explains funnystor:
If men want political leverage for not being forced into parenthood, it’s completely reasonable to say that we support abortion rights only conditional on men having the right to not be forced into parenthood too. If enough men take this position to be the swing vote on abortion, it will force feminists to negotiate with us … .
“It strengthens our argument because it places us in a negotiation position,” argues azazelcrowley.
Instead of demanding they give us something for nothing anymore, we can instead refuse to help them get abortion rights.
Instead, we push for a “Consent to parenthood” ammendment and refuse to back anything else. They can howl about how we’re killing women and we’ll say;
“Nope. You can support the ammendment too.”
and they’ll scream “Just back abortions” and we can simply refuse.
We need to become the key demographic they need to win over.
Yeah, I’m sure that will work great.
A few in the Men’s Rights think their fellow MRAs, too eager to gloat over what they see as a long-overdue crackdown on women’s behavior, are missing an important point: If women lose access to abortion, they will be forced to bear more babies that men will have to pay for, at least in part.
“If abortion is banned,” writes Stars3000, “more men will end up paying child support for accidental pregnancies.”
“[I]magine if you fucked some nasty bitch you don’t want to be tied to forever and get her pregnant,” warns ShitFauxBrains, who manages to get his comment downvoted to negative fourteen by guys who didn’t want to hear this.
A few commenters are pessimistic about the chances that the Supreme Court decision will help the Men’s Rights movement at all. Clockw0rk notes that
The feminists and their mindless drones are already shouting from the rooftops about how men have all the reproductive rights and the SCOTUS is only punishing women because they’re fascists(?).
I don’t think there’s any positive traction MRAs can make on this issue as long as male sexuality is diminished and demonized. We’re not seen as equal parents, whether it’s in the creation or the continued raising of children, and we’re not given basic protections like genital integrity and we have no say in the abortion/legal abandonment of our young.
It’s a fine time to raise awareness within our communities to new members, but don’t expect the average woman to catch wind and not shout “misogyny!”. It’s a topic that’s too sacred to them to be rationally discussed at this point in time.
Boy, I really can’t imagine what might lead women to conclude that the Men’s Rights movement is full of misogynists.
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