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Incel rage: Man who threw child off balcony at Mall of America driven by anger at women, police say

By David Futrelle

Last Friday, a man walked up to a mother and her five-year-old boy who were standing outside the Rain Forest Cafe on the third floor of Minnesota’s Mall of America. Without saying a word, he grabbed the boy and threw him over the balcony.

Luckily, the boy survived the fall, and is being treated for multiple severe injuries at a local hospital. His assailant, a 24-year-old man named Emmanuel Deshawn Aranda, was captured as he tried to flee the mall, and has confessed to the crime, according to police. He’s been charged with attempted murder.

As unsettling as all this is, what makes it even more unsettling is the apparent motive for the attack. According to the Hennepin County Attorney Mike Freeman, Aranda was driven by rage over being rejected by women.

A statement put out by the Attorney’s office says that

Aranda told police he had come to the mall on Thursday intending to kill an adult, but that it did not “work out,” according to the complaint. He returned Friday and chose the boy instead. He told police he knew what he was planning to do was wrong. Aranda said he had been coming to the mall for years, tried to speak to women there and they rejected him. That made him lash out and act aggressively.

According to the complaint itself, Aranda had been previously banned from the mall “for throwing water in a woman’s face and destroying property. He has a warrant for his arrest from Illinois for assault. …”

It’s not clear if Aranda had any connection to the incel “movement,” such as it is, or if he was inspired by previous incel acts of violence like Elliot Rodger’s 2014 killing spree or the van attack in Toronto a year ago. But he was clearly motivated by the “aggrieved entitlement” that is rampant among men in America and throughout the world today.

On the Braincels subreddit, the site’s main forum for incels, the regulars seem most concerned that they will get “slammed” for the brutal attempted murder. While no one in the desultory discussion of the case there is glorifying Aranda the way that incels have glorified Elliot Rodger, one commenter is offering him a certain degree of sympathy.

“I think not getting pussy does something to the brain,” writes BBCislaw, “it’s a legitimate issue that will be ignored in favor of mocking the afflicted.”

On Incels.co, the largest incel forum off of Reddit, they don’t seem to have discovered the story yet, though the regulars are currently celebrating the pain suffered by a 22-year-old “Stacey” who apparently fell from a clock tower while attempting to take a selfie, and voting in a poll on what they see as the proper punishment for couples who kiss in public. (At the moment, “torture/death by soldering iron” is in the lead.)

The incel ideology is pure poison.

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Moon Custafer
Moon Custafer
3 years ago

@rhuu

It’s weird, because I don’t know how to define positive masculinity either, but gender identity is still important to me as well.

I wonder whether personal names would work as an analogy for gender in this situation? Some are assigned, some are chosen, they all tend to come with cultural baggage and a set of expectations about what the name-bearer is like which may or may not be accurate— however, people generally consider their name par of themselves and don’t like to be called by the wrong name.

Dalillama
Dalillama
3 years ago

@John

Game theory gives purchase for analysis.

Game Theory can be usefully applied to social and economic analysis, but it requires actually having some clue about what Game Theory actually is (hint: it has absolutely zero to do with “game” in the PUA sense), and some pretty good maths skills. Also it doesn’t apply to the situations you’re talking about.

@Rhuu
Indeed, with current cold case techniques involving comparing old DNA samples with modern genealogical genetic databases is revealing that quite a number of men do just that, and are never even suspected and just go on and live normal lives.

@,Bookworm in Hijab

(I feel like saying “no, I’m a lesbian”, again whether or not it’s true, might make the situation MORE dangerous when rejecting certain men?)

It certainly does.

Lysistrata
Lysistrata
3 years ago

@John

She wins the interaction by swatting away the creep, but certainly is no better off having had the interaction,

How is it a “win” if she is certainly no better off? It is not a “win” to be forced to be rude or violent, to have to “swat” somebody, when you are just trying to have a conversation with friends, get a job done, or have a thoughtful drink by oneself.

In point of fact, she is not only “no better off”, she is worse off, if only by the waste of time. She may well be worse off, because being creeped on is all about the creep letting the creepee know that they are only “game tokens”. Your words, John. Being creeped on, being treated as a thing and not a person, can make the creepee feel awful, and if it happens over and over it can be very harmful. This is not a win for the woman, or even neutral.

As other commenters have pointed out, your analysis is not based on actual Game Theory which is all math and logic, rigorously developed and debated. This is just a small-t theory of yours based on the crude metric that putting somebody down, or turning them down, is a “win”.

It can be a win only if the “game” is scored by power moves – if it’s a game of pure dominance. Which is how the PUAs, incels and other assorted misogynists are scoring it, for sure. By phrasing it as you did in the quote above, you’re pretty much saying that that women who are creeped on are “winning” unless a creep succeeds in forcing or manipulating their submission. Do you realize what a toxic idea that is? That idea is the heart of incel thinking: that if a man cannot subjugate women, it means the women are winning.

And as other commenters have pointed out, she did not agree to play this dominance game.

It is not a “win” to be forced to play somebody else’s game; it is a waste of my precious time. Men waste women’s time this way constantly. It is not “winning” if you can’t finish a goddamn conversation, or the task you came to do, without being creeped on. It is not “winning” to go out for a pleasant drink, or to a meeting, and find yourself in a combat situation, no matter how well you handle it.

But your statement assumes that women are “playing games” with men even when they have not been asked to or consented to join the game. Do you realize what a toxic idea that is? That women are always “playing games” with men implies that no doesn’t always mean no, and that women are generally not acting in good faith.

I expect you’ll want to reply “but that’s not what I meant!” But that’s what your words imply, John. I do not for a second think you are an incel or a misogynist. But these ideas are in our air and our water, and we all have to be alert to the ways they warp our thinking.

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Lysistrata,

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Crip Dyke
Crip Dyke
3 years ago

John:

Life is one big game, filled with a multitude of smaller games. You win some, you lose some. What matters most is how you play…
To me, much of the fuel of toxic masculinity is throwing tantrums when you don’t win, and the rest is when you cheat to win. …
To those who do not like my redefinition….well, you win some, and you lose some.

WTF? Google translate, can you help with some mansplain to english work?

:click: :whir: TRANSLATION FOLLOWS:

Hey, ladies and feminists! Your problem is that you simply don’t have the analytical tools to understand events like this, thus all your “toxic masculinity” and “sexism” etc. will ultimately fail to explain anything, despite the fact that there are some things in the real world that you might describe that way. But describing isn’t understanding. So I, the man with the most classic MANNAME™ in the english speaking world am here to help.
It’s all about sportsball. But don’t get yourself in a tizzy, now. This is the abstract, philosophical sportsball of great thinkers. Rather than pinning yourself down in the weeds of some real-world rules that don’t apply and asking yourself why the wide-receiver didn’t catch the kid or something, see if you can be as abstract-y, analitical-y as me and picture all of life as a sportsball contest. Got that? Now everything that happens within life is a series of smaller sportsball contests?

There! Now you feminists can begin to appreciate the genius that is manly analyticalizing! With a little training even you could understand these otherwise incomprehensible events that you’re trying to understand like throwing a child off a balcony!

Rhuu:

So, to continue with your ‘game’ analogy… … because he lost that [pick-up] game, he decides to play another game, one in which he kills someone.

He throws a child off of a high place.

Who won?

Hmm, yes. John did come in here to explain this attack to us. And John did assert that understanding these things required sports ball analiticalizing. Please, share us your wisdom, John! How can us poor women and feminists finally understand what’s happening when angry men throw children off balconies! We promise, we will accept your metaphor because of its power to make sense of exactly the things that you insisted we cannot understand because we were discussing actual psychological phenomena prone to investigation that rigorous research has already linked to increased propensity for violence like masculinity and entitlement instead of the ONE TRUE METAPHOR of sportsball abstracted by the disciplines of mathematics and philosophy which are entirely coincidentally fields where social pressure have kept women under-represented.

PLEASE JOHN! YOU’VE GIVEN US THE METAPHOR, WE’RE READY TO UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH THAT FEMINISM CAN NEVER HELP US UNDERSTAND. GIVE US THE ONE CLEAR VISION OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR THAT ONLY SPORTSBALL METAPHORS CAN PROVIDE!

John:

In this situation, it all honestly breaks down. I mean, the guy seemed to have fed his anger until it snapped, and it’s hard to understate how much of a problem that is, to put it mildly. Everyone was left worse off because of this event, not least the poor child. I try not to look at his picture.

Wait, what? These words do not help me with the one true sportsball understanding. Google Translate, can you help again?

:click: :whir: TRANSLATION FOLLOWS:

Look, lady. I’m talking to prove that my understanding of things is better than yours. It doesn’t mean I actually understand anything. Obviously my “everything in life is a sportsball contest” doesn’t shed any light on the actual example you were talking about. The point isn’t that you understand anything. You’re a lady-being. Obviously you’re not going to understand anything. The important part isn’t that you end up understanding anything. The important part is that you treat me as a wise patrician, acknowledge my genius, and express gratitude for my willingness to spend my precious time in conversation with you.

I mean, there wasn’t any chance a stupid, abstract sportsball competition metaphor was going to actually explain something as stupid and awful as men’s tendency to disproportionately attack, injure, rape, and sometimes kill random innocents! I sure as hell don’t know what you’d have to study to understand men’s belief in their own right to dominate women and children, and their devaluation of others to the point of willingness to do violence unchecked by anything except the threat of being thrown out of the masculinity club for not manfully restricting one’s violence to other RealMen™ targets.

But whatever could help you feminists understand men committing violence against others, it sure as hell ain’t my sportsball metaphor! So stop trying to challenge me on that. It gets awkward when I’m establishing my superiority and you ask me a question I can’t answer! I mean shit, you’d probably have to establish entire university departments to investigate a social/behavioral phenomenon like that. The important part is that if I can’t answer it, you ladies shouldn’t think that you can answer it better than me. I mean, obviously.

Why else would I show up to talk about metaphorical sportsball when it has no possibility to answer a question about fragile masculine entitlement and the tendency to treat women and children as props to make men feel better about themselves which then disappoints and angers any reasonable men who are denied their “victories”?

So STOP ASKING DIFFICULT QUESTIONS AND JUST ACCEPT IT. Jesus. You ladies.

Ah. Okay. I’ve got it now, “John”.

Crip Dyke
Crip Dyke
3 years ago

@David:

I wrote something rather long (but no links!) and then tried to edit it. It said I could no longer edit the comment. And now the comment has disappeared…

Is there any way you can save it? There was important research painstakingly conducted through Google Translate that it would be sad to lose.

Thank you in advance, my feminist hive-mind, cultural marxist overlord! I promise you can signal much virtue by rescuing this lost comment!

contrapangloss
3 years ago

Crip Dyke: happened to me a few weeks back.

Shooting David an email (link by the mammoth head, sidebar or bottom) generally works best, to make sure he sees it!

Probably got bumped to spam or something. 🙂

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
3 years ago

@Lysistrata

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Lainy
Lainy
3 years ago

@lysistrata

Good job. My fast just ended and I don’t yet have the mind power to form that anwser myself and you did it beautiful sugar! ❤

Crip Dyke
Crip Dyke
3 years ago

Yay! My long comment has been restored! David is my hero!

Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
Rhuu - apparently an illiterati
3 years ago

I enjoyed your translations Crip Dyke! Just a note for the future, I’m sticking with not gendering myself under this ‘nym on this site, right now. I’m sure i’ve gendered myself here in the past, but this is my current state.

The state of UNDECIDED. XD

Hope you’re having a good day!

Crip Dyke
Crip Dyke
3 years ago

@Rhuu:

Thanks for the info! Congrats on your ongoing quest-of-self, and a good day back at’cha.

kupo
kupo
3 years ago

@Crip Dyke
Excellent reply. Worth the wait!

Bookworm in hijab
Bookworm in hijab
3 years ago

@ Crip Dyke, I dunno. I can get “Mansplain to English” on Google Translate, but when I try to go from “English to Mansplain” (in the hope of getting these ignorant MRA/PUA-types to understand or at least listen to anything I say), all I get is a bunch of random symbols, a whiny sort of grinding noise, and then smoke comes out of my computer…

??

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