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MGTOW creepos wonder: Does feminism promote bestiality?

Well I never!

By David Futrelle

We may have all overdosed on the hideously depressing incel coverage over the last week, so I thought today we could take a break and drop in on an ever-so-slightly less toxic misogynistic subculture, namely our old friends the MGTOWs, or Men Going Their Own Way So Completely That All They Do Is Bitch About Women.

Let’s just pop in on a discussion I found — don’t ask me how, I don’t even remember  — over on MGTOW.com. The subject: “Does feminism promote bestiality?”

Take it away, young MGTOW:

I’m rather young, so i can’t really say if it’s been increasing or not, but i suspect so.

When i was 17, i was hugely obsessed with statistics, and i one day ran into a survey done asking female dog owners if they had ever had sexual intercourse with their dog. 1 in 10 stated that they had.

I haven’t been able to find it back as since then google’s search algorithms have been completely feminized so i can no longer find dick all on the net 

Ah, yes, it couldn’t be that you misremembered the study, must have been a “feminized” search engine.

Anyway, after an admittedly halfassed attempt at Googling I couldn’t find it either and the most recent widely cited study I did find (from way back in 1974) suggested that a) the percentage of women who had sex with animals was less than two percent (1.9%) and that b) the percentage of men who’d done the same was more than twice that (4.9%). So I’m guessing the study our young MGTOW “remembers” is either imaginary or completely unscientific bullshit.

Also, ewwww.

So anywho, that got me thinking, about why so many girls had dogs as pets and not the cute fluffy cats 

To protect them from creepy weirdos like you?

Why they would always have a male dog, and never a female dog – wouldn’t you expect them to get a female dog?

[citation needed]

I came to the conclusion that women were just extremely f~~~ed up and disgusting when it came to their sexual desires.

Of course you did.

NOW! 5 years later!

I was on a movie set a few days ago, doing some gay ass artsy film lol… and the assistant director had a male dog… which she slept with.

This dog whined when ever he was away from her for more than 5 seconds!!!

So, it got me thinking, i mean, she sleeps with the dog every night, how on earth is she not f~~~ing it?

Um, WHAT

WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU ASSUME THAT

Sometimes my cats sleep on my bed. I DON’T HAVE SEX WITH THEM.

I mean, who sleeps with their dog!

Uh, half of all dog owners?

She actually literally cuddled with the dog… probably giving it more affection than any man she’s ever known… lol.

Just got me thinking, pretty entertaining thing to think of.

Since i was 17, i have noticed both a serious increase in feminism and female relations \w dogs… but i can’t really say if the two are linked or even if the latter has been increasing of if its just my increased awareness.

So… Thoughts?

Have you ever caught any women doing weird stuff with their dogs? LOL.

Fun topic eh? 

Naturally, a number of other MGTOWs had their own equally thoughtful opinions on the subject:

Gross. You want to know what’s really sick is when I see male and female dog owners. When a male dog owner sees his dog humping something, he gets stern and p~~~ed off and yanks him away. When a female sees it, she’s all “omg lol so cute”. They think it’s adorable but if you walk up to her and just say something she thinks it’s rape. There was a study about women getting aroused by seeing bonobo monkeys f~~~ing. It was all over the place. Girls gone wild for monkeys.

Well that was an interesting exercise in free association.

One MGTOW had some thoughts about “old ladies.”

why do  you think those old ladies and women over 40 own a small dog?

they pour that freaking peanut butter all over their

Ok, I’m just going to stop him right there because I think we all know where that’s going.

Some of the commenters aren’t quite as bothered by the whole sex-with-dogs thing as Mr. OP. As one puts it:

I don’t frankly give a f~~~. As long as the dog wasn’t forced to [CENSORED BY DF BECAUSE IT’S DOG SEX], then I’m fine with it. There was an incident wherein a dog tried to hump me. I was a kid, and it never occurred to me that I was raping him. Listen, if the woman bends over and the dog starts humping her then I consider that to be conscentual. She offered, and he took her up on the that. Let them f~~~ dogs. If anything I find it amusing, but in all sincerity I have no moral qualms with what you call “beastiality”. I wouldn’t do it with a dog, or goat, or horse, but if the animal is willing, and you’re into that, then be my guest. I hear it’s illegal though, so you might want to keep it to yourself.

Well, that’s enough MGTOWs for one day I think.

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Zenobia Augusta
Zenobia Augusta
4 years ago

Regarding Extroverts Vs. Introverts and marketability, I am reminded of a time several years ago when I met with an agent. She told me I had a “quirky, urban vibe” and that there was a part out there for me somewhere, she just didn’t know what it was. I asked her wouldn’t she rather have me on file, for whenever such a role came up, and she explained that she wouldn’t take me on, because I just wouldn’t make her any money. She then went on to list some things I could do to improve myself, most of them way too expensive for me, to make myself more marketable. I spent hours crying about it, but I can’t really blame her.

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

@ashent
That particular commenter has been making their feelings on certain cultures very obvious. They also don’t engage in the discussion, just drop a bunch of copy/paste. It would be different if someone said, “that reminds me of a thing I read…” and went on to explain, or if the commenter didn’t have a history of slandering certain cultures constantly.

Binjabreel
4 years ago

Okay so I just noticed this now, but how are these incels so wrong about everything even down to peanut butter?

He said “pours peanut butter”.

WHO THE FUCK POURS PEANUT BUTTER? WHAT SHITTY PEANUT BUTTER IS THIN ENOUGH TO BE POURED?

Zenobia Augusta
Zenobia Augusta
4 years ago

Maybe he pours all the oil off the top of natural peanut butter instead of stirring it in?

Binjabreel
4 years ago

The thought of that makes me irrationally angry.

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

Binjabreel:

WHO THE FUCK POURS PEANUT BUTTER? WHAT SHITTY PEANUT BUTTER IS THIN ENOUGH TO BE POURED?

I’m told that Reese’s make a pourable peanut butter.

WHAT THE FUCK, AMERICA? Stop getting food wrong!

Tovius
Tovius
4 years ago

@Moggie

And here I thought cheese in a can was our low point.

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

So, it got me thinking, i mean, she sleeps with the dog every night, how on earth is she not f~~~ing it?

Someone’s never been invited to a sleepover. I mean, if this dude was the same at 12 as now at 22, I wouldn’t be surprised…

Rabid Rabbit
Rabid Rabbit
4 years ago

@Axecalibur

Pretty sure he assumed all sleepovers were actually orgies and got pissed that he wasn’t invited, thus marking the start of his incel career.

Shadowplay
4 years ago

@wwth

Off topic.

Omg. Omg.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/feds-tapped-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-s-phones-n871011

NBC has issued a correction.

(Daily Beast link – specifying because someone said they weren’t going there any more.)

Bina
Bina
4 years ago

@Jaygee:

I also wonder if these mgtows are actually ignorant or just being obtuse on how feminists stand on bestiality. I thought feminists were known for consent and that children and animals are not able to give consent. Knowing that, bestiality goes against known feminist thought.

Ignorant, obtuse…and projecting. Because you just know that these bozos would hump a dog if they had one. Or, even more awful, force it to hump a woman if they had one. And that, frankly, is why they should have neither dogs nor women in their lives.

BritterSweet
4 years ago

At first I found it shocking, disgusting and pathetic that these guys are really sexualizing affection for pets. But then, it became less shocking, but still just as disgusting and pathetic, when I remembered that these guys have also expressed sexual envy toward a statue. Remember that article?

Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
Surplus to Requirements, Observer of the Vast Blight-Wing Enstupidation
4 years ago

@Alan:

Of course it was Nobel’s premature obituary (which slated him as a death dealer) that prompted him to set up the Nobel Prizes.

Wasn’t that also Tony Stark’s character arc?

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
4 years ago

Tony Stark had a character arc?

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Hippodameia,
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ETA: Just noticed the misspelling, which makes the gif not as good. Oh well!

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
4 years ago

WWTH: Thank you! XD

solecism
solecism
4 years ago

The first guy I ever dated told a terrible and offensive “joke” involving a woman, her dog, peanut butter, and a surprise birthday party. I couldn’t understand why he would share such a thing and think it was funny. He had a hard time finishing because he started laughing. I should have taken it as a sign that this relationship was a bad idea. But I was young and so very inexperienced. It ended badly (for me).

Misogynists sure do seem to have some weird sexual fixations. Nudity = sex. Bed = sex. Affection = sex. Companionship = sex. Who knew life was so simple? Oh wait, it’s not, and most things in life really aren’t about sex. Who wouldn’t want to cuddle sweet, furry dogs (or cats). They’re so fluffy! And not at all handsy.

I haven’t been able to find it back as since then google’s search algorithms have been completely feminized so i can no longer find dick all on the net.

Assuming a straight bias, wouldn’t feminized search algorithms mean more male nudity on the interwebz? Or maybe the opposite–feminized search algorithms mean no more dick pics ever again? Looking at the demographics at Google, I am extremely dubious about the starting assumption.

Jen
Jen
4 years ago

Peanut butter is considered a liquid by TSA standards, so you can’t carry that jar on board. D; It’s just, I guess, a super viscous liquid?
Almond butter is definitely far more runny, though.

I so wish I had the option to like so many of these comments.

@Solecism, I learned about the “peanut butter thing” from Gaia Online. Someone would spam the forums with a “Ladies, you have to try this!” And I made the mistake of clicking out of curiosity. I died that day.

Dvärghundspossen
4 years ago

In Sweden beastiality became illegal pretty recently. It’s interesting to read the relevant authorities reasoning on the matter – basically, animals don’t like being raped so this is an issue of animal welfare, although the production of animal food requires forcibly inseminating cows and pigs which is hardly any fun for them, but that’s different because obviously we can’t stop having animal food, so it’s fine and dandy to keep raping pigs and cows for that purpose, but not because you’re a pervert. Yeah I shit you not, that’s the explicit reasoning for legally allowing vets to shove their entire arms up cows whilst forbidding pervert farmers from putting their dicks in there. (You might have guessed I’m a vegan.)

Then there are tons of people who haven’t read jack shit about how this law came about but are 100 % convinced that there’s no other reason for forbidding beastiality than feelings of “ugh”, and loudly object every chance they get against having ugh-based legislation.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
4 years ago

AFAIK in Finland bestiality is only illegal if it can be construed as general animal cruelty. I guess that’s more consistent with the idea that animals don’t have a right to bodily autonomy as such.

I’ve read that historically bestiality was very much illegal in Sweden (then including Finland), based on a biblical “ugh” sentiment. Like, in 18th century there was a bestiality-related moral panic resembling witch hunts, resulting in a number of death penalties for both people and livestock. I imagine that was invoked in the recent discussion?

Dvärghundspossen
4 years ago

Yeah it was illegal way back, but back then it wasn’t part of an animal welfare legislation but part of “vice” legislation. Then it became legal, very recently it became illegal again. And the arguments for making it illegal again were primarily brought forth by vets, who argued that we know that animals generally suffer when their owners have sex with them, but it’s often hard to prove suffering in the individual case. And that’s why it’s better to have a blanket ban. (Except when we gotta rape cows to get that sweet milk and beef of course! )
It’s also illegal to force a dog to have sex with another dog for breeding purposes, also for animal welfare reasons.

Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
Lumipuna (nee Arctic Ape)
4 years ago

I know that animal welfare wasn’t much of an issue in 18th century.

I’ve also read (in comments by Finish farm vets) that prosecuting animal rape is difficult, and not generally something authorities care about.

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

Death penalties for livestock? Aren’t they permanently under a death penalty already?

numerobis
numerobis
4 years ago

I love how unique each cat’s markings are

My dad on his recent visit finally figured out how to tell my two apart (they’re twins) — and he used a *new* variation that I’d never noticed despite sleeping with these cats for years in an entirely non-sexual kind of way.

(Although sometimes a cat will lie on the bed while my partner and I are getting it on — and finding the cat distracting — I don’t think it counts.)

JS
JS
4 years ago

A followup to cats “not being handsy”, I met one that would grab my wrist with both paws, and happily lick the inside of my wrist until I got tired of it, or the cat got carried away and bit. #NotAllCats Turkish Vans are strange.

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