Harvey Weinstein, Smooth Talker: Today in Tweets

@Peak

If I said “I am a kkk but I didn’t agree with the first “k”.BUT, the second “k” , i do agree with. I don’t like how the kkk act….what a bunch of meany poop heads that can’t get laid.but I’m still a kkk”

^^if I said that people would shout for me to get the fuck out of here. Rightfully so.

So what’s diff bout this situation?

Btw, you’ve been responded to quite succinctly.

Women are talking.
You aren’t listening.

And your callousness to turn this thread into your boner prob is gross. Hw isn’t just some guy copping a feel. He represents and participates the crushing oppression that women go thru every fucking day AND YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT YOUR FEE FEES AND INCELS.

You took a break from posting for awhile. And yet, you took zero time to learn shit. You didnt listen, u didnt try.

You just came back with your same sad boner – thinking we were all goldfish that would forget you.

If you do not want to listen, ok.
So get the fuck outta here.

I am really sick of trifling men.

 He only manipulated/raped women because he knew deep down he couldnt get a lady to willingly have sex with him. Freak

Citation needed.

I personally dont like generalisations about groups of people tbh.

Are you trying to insinuate that incels are an oppressed group and it’s wrong to have a bad opinion of them? Because no. Incel is not a synonym for virgin or lonely or shy or anything like that. It’s a subculture. It’s a word that only people who are familiar with that subculture know. Misogyny and entitlement are features of that subculture. Not bugs. Choosing to identify as an incel means you either agree with misogyny or you aren’t bothered with misogyny. Which is effectively the same thing as agreeing with it.

If someone chooses a label, there are certain core things that by definition they must do or believe. If someone calls themselves a foodie, I would assume they like fine dining. If they said they only liked big macs and boxed mac’n cheese, one would probably think they aren’t really a foodie. If someone calls themselves a Star Wars fan, I’m going to go ahead and assume they’ve at least seen the original trilogy. Some generalizations are just common sense.

I’ll just touch on a few of the conversations here, my ducks. Sort of frantic over here. Today is stress day, apparently! Wheeeeee

I am sort of uncomfortable with America-bashing, purity-tests, and the like. Absolute statements trouble me, I suppose. We can be very eager to pounce on one another, so let’s pounce more like kitties than tigers, perhaps. We should be forgiving with ourselves and with each other.

@peak182,

Okay! I think I have figured this out. Im’a do a reply. TW for discussions of rape.

what about a woman who says yes to sex but that yes has been based on lies and manipulation. Is that rape, or is it scumbag behaviour for men like HW to get his own way? Just wondering

YES THAT IS RAPE

ahem

That’s what Weinstein did, repeatedly. That’s what so many do, repeatedly. Coerced sex isn’t sex, it’s rape.

There’s this popular culture vision of rape being a stranger pouncing on someone from the bushes or in a dark alley. That’s not it. It’s a guy you’ve gone out with a couple of times who’s being super pushy and won’t take no for an answer. It’s a boss who knows you really need this job. It’s a long term friend with hidden resentment and a bunch of unfounded assumptions.

You said Weinstein only manipulated women because he couldn’t get laid honestly. You don’t know that. There are lots of men who rape specifically because they want the feeling of power over someone. That’s why people have gotten cranky with you for talking about how incels want sex. It’s not about sex. It’s about power. About making someone helpless, about hurting them.

And that leads to what an “incel” is.

You seem to think that an incel is any guy who isn’t having sex, but would like to. That’s not what an incel is. An incel is a guy who is connected to the incel community – the Reddit community and its satellites. The community that blames women for their lack of sex, that hates women, that wants sexbots as abuse simulators, and who would use women that way if they could. That community came up with that term to describe themselves.

Membership in that community is the definition of an incel, not just “wanting sex but not getting it”. They like to think that any guy who’d like to have sex but isn’t right now is part of their gross little clique, but they’re wrong. Because there are lots of reasons for someone to be celibate but to want that to change. Lots of them! Most of them are totally fine! A very thin slice of them are awful.

If you’re one of those guys who isn’t having sex, but would like to – but you don’t blame women for the fact – then don’t call yourself an incel. You aren’t one. All you’re doing by using that term for yourself is tarring yourself with a very ugly brush, and reinforcing their beliefs that all celibate guys are in their ranks.

I personally dont like generalisations about groups of people tbh.

Generalizations about groups of people based on an arbitrary characteristic like their race or sexual orientation are bad. Generalizations about a group of people based on their beliefs and/or behaviors, which are directly tied to those beliefs and/or behaviors are perfectly fine. MGTOWS, Incels, and PUAs are misogynists. Every last one of them. That is demonstrated time and again with their actions and words. It’s not possible to hold the beliefs they do while still respecting women because the beliefs at the core of their philosophies are misogynistic in nature.

Honestly you sound like those people defending the Nazi that was punched in Seattle by saying, “but we don’t know he’s a Nazi!” even though he was wearing a Nazi armband.