By David Futrelle
See correction at end of post.
The neo-Nazi internet tip sheet The Daily Stormer is warning CNN employees that itstroll army will “track down” their parents, siblings, spouses and children in an act of revenge against the network for its reporting on the racist and anti-Semitic Reddit memester who made a gif depicting Donald Trump body-slamming a man with a CNN logo for a head that achieved internet infamy after Trump himself retweeted it a few days ago.
What’s pissing off the Stormers, and the all-too-familiar assortment of internet deplorables (and bots) behind the #CNNBlackmail hashtag, is that CNN, which hasn’t publicly named the memester, says that as a news organization it retains the right to publicly identify him in the future.
Yep, that’s right: a bunch of dudes who have no problem doxxing or threatening to dox people they don’t like is mad at CNN for not actually doxxing someone. And neo-Nazi hacker Andrew Auernheimer, aka weev, seems to be the angriest of the bunch, his fury initially driven in part by false reports that the memester was 15 years old. (He is in fact an adult.) And so in a post on the Daily Stormer he rallied the troops for what he sees as a righteous campaign to force CNN “to taste their own medicine.” Although it isn’t the “same medicine” at all.
After presenting CNN with a list of ridiculous demands that no real news organization would ever meet — including firing all the journalists vaguely connected to the CNN story and setting up a $50,000 college scholarship for the racist memester — weev declares
If you do not do this, we are going to be tracking you down just like you tracked him down.
You are fake news, and we are the real media. As journalists, we have the right to track people down and seek comment on your criminal associations. We now have jackboots on the ground in every major metro area in the world.
We are going to track down your parents.
We are going to track down your siblings.
We are going to track down your spouses.
We are going to track down your children. Because hey, that’s what you guys get to do, right? We’re going to see how you like it when our reporters are hunting down your children.We are going to seek comment from them all, because you are fake news terrorists engaged in a seditious plot to undermine our President and the 63 million people who voted for him. HanAssholeSolo was a private citizen, but none of you are. We are going to see you brought to account for this, because that’s what real media does: expose criminals.
The difference being that when real real reporters “seek comment” from someone, they literally seek comment from them. When Stormers and their alt-right pals “seek comment” from people it usually means the targets of their “questioning” get sent a lot of death threats and oven memes, an impression Daily Stormer publisher Andrew Anglin doesn’t exactly dispel with his own post filled with an assortment of violent anti-CNN memes, including one featuring the heads of assorted CNN journalists pasted onto photos of Jews in a concentration camp and another one of CNN’s Andrew Kaczynski, the author of the offending story, warning him to “sleep with one eye open.”
Weev goes on to inform
Any CNN employee that does not want to be tracked down alongside their families will have one additional week to quit CNN and denounce their act of blackmail against a private citizen. After that, it is game on.
Do you understand what is coming? This is going to be ironic punishment. You are going to have the exact thing done to you that you’ve been doing to us for ages. You have an easy chance to stop this, so don’t say that we don’t play fair, and don’t pretend you didn’t have it coming.
We didn’t make these rules – you did – and now we’re going to force you to play by them. Hope you enjoy what is coming, you filthy rat kike bastards.
Kill yourselves, kike news fakers. You deserve every single bit of what you are about to get.
Lovely.
CORRECTION: This story originally attributed a Daily Stormer post to the site’s publisher Andrew Anglin; it was actually written for the Daily Stormer by neo-Nazi hacker Andrew Auernheimer, aka weev. Anglin posted his own threatening post later.
Lay off what? We should all let mrex’s objectionable shit slide?
@Troubelle
Lay off what? mrex? I doubt that’s who you’re talking about. If you’re talking about how it looks like everyone is getting bitey at each other, well I can understand that.
@wwth, Oogly
Nah, mrex is worthy of taking the piss. But the sparks are flying, and I don’t want anything catching fire outside of designated areas.
Unrelated news: I really want grape soda right now. Does anyone here have a preferred brand of grape soda? I like Faygo–cheap, cheery, and strong.
@Troubelle: Moonbeam Malcontent + Bard of the New Movement
With ya there on that sentiment. Disagreements are okay, but when it gets out of hand…
@WWTH
“I said Republicans are generally richer than Democrats.”
Which you’re gonna “prove” by spitting out some poll in which Republicans made more money on average than Democrats. Even ignoring the problems found with averaging and applying statistics to individuals, it will ignore that Republicans tend to be older, have children and elderly parents, and are more likely to have other compounding factors. In other words, it will not compare apples to apples.
But how about this; who fucking cares who makes more ? I’m fine with someone who makes more than me saying they have “economic anxiety”; hell happens all the time.
Know who has economic anxiety? Anyone who says they do.
@Robert
“Mrex, would it be more agreeable to you if Democrats focused more on how wealthy Republicans manipulate working class Republicans into voting *against* their own interests”
If by “manipulating” you mean “lying to”, then yes. I don’t think the Dems are manipulating the working class.
@POM
If I knew how to stop without trading one stupid behavior for another, I would stop just to save the misery. It be far less work than this. You think I’m doing this because I’m having a grand old time, but I’m only here because it makes me miserable.
You have to read opinions you don’t like on the internet. Sorry if I don’t think the consequences of that to people other tham me are as severe as other compulsive behaviors. If you want to throw fuel on the fire, then at least point me in the right direction.
You should go to the comments section of Breitbart or Fox News and try patiently and nicely explaining to them how Republican economic policies won’t work well for them. You can see how much time they spend wondering how they’re going to keep food on the table versus how much time they spend talking about how horrible Muslims and Black Lives Matter are. As a bonus, it’ll probably make you as miserable as you seem to want to be while posting on the internet.
What you did there is known as the “strawman”. Putting words in peoples mouths, as if they would say that, then knocking them down. It’s much easier to refute an argument no one but you has actually made yet.
@Ooglyboggles
The red one is me on my phone. Maybe I’m more of a jerk on my phone because I’m thinking less about what I write on it, so maybe sticking to the computer when I’m in a good mood is a better idea. I’m sorry.
I agree the comment I made about college was dickish and inaccurate.
@WWTH
“You should go to the comments section of Breitbart or Fox News and try patiently and nicely explaining to them how Republican economic policies won’t work well for them.”
Already spend time arguing just that with Repubs. Alt-right to NeoNazis types are usually very quick to ban and stomp out any possibility of questioning. I sorta got doxxed once. I half wish that someone would finally do me a favor and shoot me. But if I could get shot without hurting others around me, I would just shoot myself.
Lots of poor people have trouble getting through college for no fault of their own, and that doesn’t make them into racist asshats who post comments on Breitbart.
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ahmigah you guys i forgot how to do this I am so [i]terrible[/i] now.
I’ll just say this one thing here, because I jes’can’helpit.
There’s a huge difference between a wealthy/wealthier person’s economic anxiety and the anxiety felt by a more poor person.
That better-off, older Republican has economic anxiety because they might have to sell their nice house and move into a condo in order to meet their retirement goals.
The worse-off, younger Democrat has economic anxiety because they can’t pay twenty thousand dollars in required medical services and are gonna end up destitute.
Those wealthier people [i]have further to fall[/i]. It’s important to acknowledge that the anxiety they all feel is equally valid to feel, but it’s the height of injustice to consider those feelings justification for anything beyond a compassionate ear.
(Also, eat the rich, tear down the flags of the fascists, and break the backs of the banks, etc. I’m sick of being ruled by The Necropolis.)
Scildfreja Unnyðnes!!!!!!!
Hi!!! *Happy dance*
You have been so missed!!!
“That better-off, older Republican has economic anxiety because they might have to sell their nice house and move into a condo in order to meet their retirement goals.”
Considering that the stats posted in previous threads said that a household income as little as 50K a year is “better off” than Dems, quite frankly that Republican isn’t likely to have a nice house to sell for a comfortable retirement after the mortgage crisis and after supporting kids and parents.
And if they do? Well it proves my point that its circumstances and not just raw income that determine “economic anxiety”.
Not even slightly so much missed as I have missed all of you, @PeeVee. I don’t even think I can find a Fluttershy gif to express it, that’s how much! And I have like a jigabyte of those things over here! I can’t even hold all these ponies!
It is so pleasant to be back. Even you, mrex, you silly goose. You’re very wrong in this point, though! I mean for realsies! Take a sit down and let that soak into your skin a bit. It doesn’t hurt so bad to be wrong about things, once the initial sting wears off. Once you are comfortable with the feeling of it, you won’t feel so depressed, and perhaps you will see a glimmer of light that you can climb towards. The thoughts of suicide might stick around; those are resilient thorns. But they will be familiar pains and they will only be brief distractions for you. They will work themselves out on their own.
Depression stems from an incorrect belief, a misalignment between yourself and the world. You must start by accepting that there is a misalignment before you can identify where it lies. I’d gently suggest that your stubbornness in confrontation may be part of it.
Onward and upward, dear! You can do it!
Also, please ignore my ramble, I’m in a free-verse mood tonight apparently. Take what you find useful from it, don’t worry about the rest.
To All
There are many local mental health hotlines in most of the USA, and several other countries. There are several national crisis hotlines.
1-800-273-8255 is one that’s nationwide, 24/7.
Other US numbers can be found here.
You can also text “HELLO” to 741741 if you’re in the USA and prefer texting.
If you feel miserable, help is available, and in many cases free or low cost.
This is wonderful info, JS; thanks!
Yay, Scildfreja’s back!!!
Ahem.
@StillFiqah:
I’m a bit late to this party (again, what’s new?) but this bit in the piece on Anglin stood out to me:
So, basically, Little Nazi Boy Andy had his moment of pseudo-religious conversion from “liberalism” (for lack of a better word; note the quotes, there for a reason), not on the road to Damascus, but after drinking too much coconut wine and getting kinda bummed and wanting to go home to mommy. Says something about the quality of HIS mind, no doubt.
I wonder how his quest to fat-shame women who could fold him up and tuck him in their pockets is going.
Please pardon me tonight, I’m feeling ridiculous. Take my commentary however you’d like!
As to the specific, you mischaracterize the data set, my egg! You must be sensitive to anecdote while not allowing it to sway you from the mean. That which lies within the tail / The median may not entail!
As to the general, you inappropriately separate circumstance and income! These are deeply linked and cannot be properly distinguished in this manner. Circumstance is income, to a degree which prevents their tidy partitioning. Both of these also influence the presence of “economic anxiety”, no doubt, along with many other factors. When factors you find correlate / Disturb them not without debate!
As to the meta-argument, I would delve deeper into this conversation, but there is no hope in it. This is the issue with teaching logic as if it were reason, and assuming reason is no more than logic plus willpower. You’re a clever egg, and creative! So to any argument you might encounter, your mind can quickly create a rebuttal whole-cloth or by parts. You must divest yourself of the will to to defeat arguments you encounter before the truth can hope to reach you.
I hope that comes to pass!
Yay, Bina’s back!
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@Schild
“You’re very wrong in this point, though!”
Which point are you referring to?
“I’d gently suggest that your stubbornness in confrontation may be part of it.”
Ok, I’ll bring this in, let it percolate around, and give it a think. Thanks.
@mrex, the point I was referring to was the main thrust of your argument! Specifically, your anger at CNN for withholding the name of the perpetrator under a condition. There’s always a certain measure of subjectivity with these evaluations of course, but it doesn’t seem reasonable to be upset at a major news network for not publishing the name of someone whose work has made national level news out of compassion for that individual.
In the general case, we expect the news to report the names of any adult what does something news-worthy – that you consider this case distinct enough to warrant it being an exception is interesting on its own!
I’m very glad you’ve got such a level head, and are willing to wage some inner battles against yourself on this point. That’s a tough thing to do! If I can offer advice on how to proceed – don’t try to be right or wrong. Stop caring as much about that. Instead, try to change.
You’re far more likely to identify and adopt something that’s true when you identify it if you’re familiar with how to change yourself. It’s a skill, and it’s a difficult one – practice! I did this recently with my beliefs about the afterlife, just to get familiar with it. Get used to being fluid, recognizing that you’re probably wrong, and you’re probably gonna continue to be wrong. Taste different beliefs, how they feel and how they fit with the world. Truth will come on its own terms.
Good luck and have fun with it!
@Scild, your post containing the bit about meta-argument felt good to read. I’m not certain I understood it all, but it sure was fun to read!
Oh, so true. If one argues repetitively against everything one disagrees with, one will not get to any consensus-reality truth except perhaps by accident.