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“Women desire to procreate, but don’t have a sex drive,” and more lady facts from our MGTOW of the Day

Women only go for guys who have lots of fish

Over on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, the fellas are discussing a pressing problem of contemporary society: “Why must men always be better than the women they are trying to date?”

Men have to be better that the women they date? I’m sure this must come as unexpected news to many if not most of the women I’ve dated. But let’s set that aside for a moment.

Today’s MGTOW of the Day, a dude calling himself DangZagnut, thinks the whole “men have to be better” thing, which he thinks is a real thing, has to do with the fact that ladies don’t actually like sex.

Let’s let him explain:

DangZagnut 13 points 2 days ago* I'll be a dick and say it's because, that, compared to women, men are always better. Hell our transgender women are better than bio women half the time. Face it, men rule, girls drool. But now that I'm done being a dick cough Women desire to procreate, but women don't have a sex drive. When I say that, its comparative. No woman has ever known lust or desire to the level a man does. Ever. There is nothing in a woman telling her to fuck endlessly. If women even possibly got as horny or aroused as men, then there would never be a single rape accusation. Creepy guys wouldn't be a phrase. Women would be fucking 50 times a day if they were even vaguely like men. Because of that, you have to do all the work to have sex. Women have to just show up to have sex, but you have to seduce a woman, which means you need to have a host of things to make you appear to be a good partner above and beyond every other man in the room. Family, wealth, looks, personality, education, intelligence....so you either have those things, you lie about those things, or you MGTOW. I'd recommend the latter choice.

Given that virtually everything in this comment is complete nonsense, I’d say that DangZagnut has not answered the question he set out to answer. But his comment does raise another important question: Why are MGTOWs the absolute worst?

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Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ fran

people like Stallone and Karl Urban used as actors for the inevitably awful movie adaptations.

I really liked Urban’s performance; and I must confess to a soft spot for the 1995 film. It had its faults, but the visuals were amazing. I do think though that the prefect Dredd, of any hue, would be Andre Braugher. He literally is the “Old Stoney Face” version of Dredd. He’s so fantastically emotionless but also full of character. And he’s got the chin for it.

Of course the best Dredd film was the original Robocop. It would have been even moreso had the copyright lawyers not said “Er, guys…”
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Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Can any of our talented graphics people stick a judge’s helmet on Andre?

http://timothywhite.com/sites/default/files/images/portfolio/007_JH_Andre-Braugher.jpg

Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

Can any of our talented graphics people stick a judge’s helmet on Andre?

http://timothywhite.com/sites/default/files/images/portfolio/007_JH_Andre-Braugher.jpg

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Notice how he has even decided men raping women is due to a flaw in women, not men.

He’s frustrated that no one wants him, but if he’s exactly the kind of man a sexually assertive woman would terrify.

weirwoodtreehugger: chief manatee

Notice how he has even decided men raping women is due to a flaw in women, not men.

He’s frustrated that no one wants him, but if he’s exactly the kind of man a sexually assertive woman would terrify.

It does make me think that (even more) socially acceptable rape is what guys like this are really after. If misogynistic men really just wanted to get laid more, you wouldn’t see all the vitriol against “sluts” and women who make the first move wouldn’t be considered desperate.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Weatherwax,
Excellent point. He is also perpetrating the rape culture idea that men are always up for it and therefore cannot be raped.

He’s also utterly unaware that pansexual, poly, demisexuals with high sex drives exist. They may be up for sex often, with more than one partner, of various genders, but not indiscriminately. Very, very discriminately.

He also seems to think there is one standard by which sexual partners are chosen and being rejected means you are substandard or that the person who doesn’t want to fuck you doesn’t really, really want to fuck someone else.

That not at all how attraction works. That’s not how sex drive works. That’s not how romantic interest works. There is no standard unit of fuckability.

They seem so offended by the fact women don’t want them. This amuses me very much. For one, they’re awful and could turn themselves around and be less repellent at any time, but don’t want to stop being shitheads. They want very specific women to fuck them despite the fact they’re shitheads because those women represent validation to them. Women are just a prop in their attempt to win masuline approval.
Ha, ha, no.

For two, there’s nothing to take personally about someone not wanting to fuck you. That doesn’t have to change your self-esteem. You can still think you’re super sexy. You can still think you’re absolutely awesome. You can even think that person is missing out on the most spectacular tumble of their life.

What you can’t do is think that person owes you sex. You can’t think people deserves to be punished for not fucking you. You can’t be awful to them because they won’t fuck you. That’s also rape culture and these men are drowning in it.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

WWTH,
Exactly right.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
5 years ago

@Francesca:
Honestly, given this is the online name I use in a number of places, I’d be surprised if it were all that difficult to find.

Though from Kickstarter support, my name does show up in a number of places. I apparently run an alchemy shop in Paris in Girl Genius, albeit misspelled.

http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20160923

leftwingfox
leftwingfox
5 years ago

@kupo

FurryMUCK is much more social role-playing chat, more Second Life than World of Warcraft. There are text-based building areas, art chat, general social hangouts, but also plenty of areas for dating, romantic or erotic RP. Tapestries tended to be much more erotic role-play oriented.

I bounce between male and female characters in RPGs, but I tend not to RP in online games. I see them as their own characters rater than avatars of myself, and spend way too much time developing elaborate backstories for those characters in my head. 😀

Feral Crone
Feral Crone
5 years ago

Virgins are so sweet and silly. The lack of factual sex ed, not so much.
Women have sex drives, but getting pregnant is unattractive, for a multitude of reasons. Including interfering with having sex.
Anyone else old enough to remember Art Linkletter’s “Kids say the darkest things?”
We could be a “MRAs say the darndest things.”

Diptych
Diptych
5 years ago

I do think though that the prefect Dredd, of any hue, would be Andre Braugher.

Are you suggesting that Judge Dredd has recently taken up attending hoola-hooping classes for fitness and fun?

Marlene McKinnon
Marlene McKinnon
5 years ago

OMG, I just laughed so hard I pulled a muscle. I had a higher sex drive than ANY of the men I’ve had sex/been in a relationship with. Rape is still a thing, because no matter how high my sex drive was, there are men I’d never have sex with in million years. I’d rather be desperate and frustrated than let any of them touch me. My own moral code also meant that no matter how horny I was (and trust me, it was stratospheric at times), I never had sex with someone who didn’t want it as much as I did (I love enthusiastic consent) and I never cheated on anyone. One ex-boyfriend used to withhold sex as a form of control. I’d be climbing the walls, but I still never cheated.

It’s only now I have the tiniest libido (which is annihilated very quickly), that I realise what a problem it was. Jeremy Paxman described going from high to low libido as ‘being uncoupled from a lunatic’. OK, it turned out he was lying and having an affair, but it made perfect sense to me. I lost my libido after I had an accident. I damaged my hip and lower back and there is no passion killer like pain.

I’d like the pain to be gone obviously, but I don’t want to go back to the obsessive and irrational me, juggling everything so I could still have sex multiple times a day and not recognising that my boyfriend/friend with benefits/whomever I was having sex with at the time was enthusiastic, but exhausted. This MGTOW fuckwit clearly didn’t meet me in my heyday. I wouldn’t have shagged him because he’s a creep, but he’d have to come up with a better excuse than ‘women don’t have a sex drive’. He’d have to face the fact that a woman with a monsterous sex drive didn’t want to have sex with HIM lol.

Fabe
Fabe
5 years ago

I really liked Urban’s performance; and I must confess to a soft spot for the 1995 film. It had its faults, but the visuals were amazing. I do think though that the prefect Dredd, of any hue, would be Andre Braugher. He literally is the “Old Stoney Face” version of Dredd. He’s so fantastically emotionless but also full of character. And he’s got the chin for it.

Of course the best Dredd film was the original Robocop. It would have been even moreso had the copyright lawyers not said “Er, guys…”

And now I’m imaging every one from “Brooklyn 9-9” as Judges. oh look Scully and Hitchcock got their lawgiver guns mix up and and are getting shocked by the security feature.

dlouwe
dlouwe
5 years ago

lol

so like I’m not strictly a “man” (NB-presenting-masculine) but I was socialized as one and am generally treated one in my day-to-day, so I still figure I can give an opinion “as a man:”

and it’s thanks to dudes like DangZagnut that I have some pretty deep-seated sexual anxiety. the whole “all men always want PIV sex” trope not only made me only feel broken due to my relatively low sex drive, but it also made most of my partners feel broken when I didn’t want to (or couldn’t) have sex with them.

as a result, now when I’m put in sexual situations my brain starts to stress over whether or not I’ll be able to perform. and since stress fucks with my ability to perform, it’s turned into a self-reinforcing cycle. it’s to the point where I recently got a prescription for Viagra even though I don’t really have ED, because it lets me rest that part of my brain and actually enjoy getting sexy with people

so hey, thanks MGTOWs for perpetuating toxic bullshit that has created a major stress point in pretty much every long-term relationship I’ve had in the last 10 years, and ruining my ability to freely express my sexuality without medication. super helpful of you. just, top notch, really. 😀

dlouwe
dlouwe
5 years ago

WHAT, ME, BITTER? NOT AT ALL.

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
5 years ago

@fransesca

It’s interesting that you seem so at ease with your ‘girl dick’ and you know other trans women who still have them and use them sexually. Both of the trans women I know personally detested their penises and coundn’t wait to have them removed. One is actually a father as well, so has used theirs reproductively with their then partner. I guess every case is different.

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

@Virgin Mary
I’ve found that every person is different in how comfortable they are with their bodies, regardless of gender or sexual orientation. 🙂

LindsayIrene, Rioting Werebonobo
LindsayIrene, Rioting Werebonobo
5 years ago

Speaking of sex drives… Mine is still cranked way up, due to being manic. I was having what I thought were sex-triggered migraines, which was not good. Welp, it turns out that I was actually having neck muscle spasms that were causing headaches that were worse than my migraines. Muscle spams can be fixed, so, yay! I can have orgasms again without agony!

But no matter how horny I am, I’m not going to have sex with 50 men a day. I have a job, I have pets, I have a house, I have people to take care of. I’ve seen video of porn stars taking on large numbers of men for publicity, and it’s not sexy fun, it’s logistics and harm reduction.

I was tempted to say, “Where would I even go to find fifty men I find attractive,” but then I was, like, ummmm, yeah, Sturgis is full of the kind of guy I’m erotically imprinted on.

Diptych
Diptych
5 years ago

Exposure to the trans community online and realising that trans women don’t necessarily and universally pursue genital surgery has been something of a revelation for me in my own journey, truth be told. One of many pieces of information that might have been useful it it had been accessible for a shy rural kid fifteen-odd years ago…

Turtle
Turtle
5 years ago

Hey there dlouwe

It’s great that Viagra has helped give your brain a rest to enjoy being intimate. I know too from personal experience that psychological ED is every bit as much a dampener on sexual enjoyment as physical ED. Best of luck with it!

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